Will having the COVID vaccine become mandatory

[yarncakes]

I am not having it done as it is my choice. I'm not going to treated like a guinea pig until I know the long term effects of it. But I've been reading here and there that most countries are going to make it mandatory so if you want to travel there, you have to prove you've had the vaccine. Also jobs as well, especially NHS and care homes, you have to have it done. My boss is funny with me because I am refusing to have it but again, it's my body and my choice but I'm just worried I will be forced to have it against my will if it means living my life normally again.

Your family member is likely to be immune if they they have come out of ITU after Covid, so I don't see the problem

We don't know for sure how long natural immunity lasts. My consultant won't and can't out a figure on that.

Iirr vaccine immunity works in a different way to natural,immunity with the covid vaccine, as it does in some other vaccinations.

www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352

Ignore that. Wrong thread

You are free to choose. You won't be insulated from the consequences of your decisions though.

Mandatory? Are you kidding? We can’t even get people to put on seat belts and not use a phone while driving , and those are visible infractions of law. Trying to enforce a law about a vaccine when you can’t tell who has had it or not would be like counting snowflakes.

Pregnant women can't have the vaccine. If it's required annually then they are likely to be overdue by the time they give birth. I think they have the right to expect their midwife/consultant etc to be vaccinated

I wouldn’t rely on if. I found out after I’d given birth (in winter) that the maternity unit at my hospital had a stupidly low take up of the flu vaccine, something like 24%. I only came across that information because I work there. If I’d known before hand I honestly would have considered going to the next nearest hospital. I think it’s awful not to try and protect newborns and mothers who may not have been able to have a flu vaccine.

You are perfectly entitled not to have it. Nobody will physically hold you down or legally force you. But you wont be allowed places where you will be a risk to others, like flying, working in health sectors or maybe education. Also, by not taking if, if you get sick, you will be taking up a bed unnecessarily, a bed which you wouldn't have occupied having treatment you wouldnt have needed if you got the vaccine. That bed could have been used for someone who is in need of an ICU bed. People are entitled to choose not to put something in their body, but they are not entitled to put others at risk because they chose that.

FYI, I think the same logic should be applied to those who refuse to get their kids vaccinated against measles and then send them into a nursery with children under 1.

[quote trulydelicious]@MO1268

If any of my family needed home carers after a time in ITU with Covid; there is no way any unvaccinated carer would be stepping foot in my house

Your family member is likely to be immune if they they have come out of ITU after Covid, so I don't see the problem

As far as the rest of the family goes, just employ a carer who has been willing to have the vaccine if that worries you[/quote]
Er, yes, that's what she is saying. She will only employ vaccinated carers.

Side effects for most vaccines show up pretty quickly. Some vaccines such as yellow fever and polio vaccines (the live virus version) have known risks but the Coved vaccines have been given to a huge number of people with few diverse reactions. There have been some allergic reactions but they’ve all been treated and recovered fine.

@Abraxan

Your family member is likely to be immune if they they have come out of ITU after Covid, so I don't see the problem

We don't know for sure how long natural immunity lasts. My consultant won't and can't out a figure on that.

Iirr vaccine immunity works in a different way to natural,immunity with the covid vaccine, as it does in some other vaccinations.

Recent studies show natural acquired immunity lasts at least 5-8+ months and is expected to last longer.

We don’t yet know how long vaccine immunity lasts.