There's another vaccine! And we've got 60 million shots! And it's made here!

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And it's effective against the new UK variant!

And it will really wind the EU up!!!

Novavax has passed its stage three trial, now hopefully the MHRA will approve it!!!

This is great news. Ultimately it will me a great boost to both the U.K. and eu vaccine efforts.

The UK signed up for 60 million doses in August last year for Novavax. In December 2020 the EU were still negotiating for Novavax. So they can get to the back of the queue again.

AZ was invented and developed at Oxford uni and the vaccines we use are physically made in Oxford. Astra Zeneca have just provided management of the process of scaling production. It’s a British vaccine.

I am 100% pro EU and anti Brexit but I am really happy Novavax is also made in the UK. This is just because I want to save our lives.

I just want my kids back at school. The politics frustrates and depresses me. I don’t care about going back to the cinema or going to a festival. I want the very basic things back and if the vaccines are what’s going to make that difference I am delirious with happiness that we have another hole grown option coming through.

That doesn’t make me a nationalist bigot. That makes me a desperate parent.

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I am 100% pro EU

How can you possibly be 100% pro EU after the way they’ve behaved over this vaccine debacle? Do you not think their approach warrants any criticism at all?

Let us wait for the MHRA approval, but this news so far is good. Whilst we wait I hope no-one lets their guard down over social distancing and other measures. There are still over 1,000 people dying every day.

Why are we getting loads of nasty, anti - EU posts at the moment? Is it the same person? Just fuck off. We're in the middle of a global pandemic. It's good news about the vaccine but stop with the nationalistic bullshit.

Not sure if this has been shared already, but interesting article from The Spectator about the EU/AZ contract issue, written by a barrister: www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-vaccine-row-shows-the-eu-doesn-t-understand-contract-law

@peak2021

Let us wait for the MHRA approval, but this news so far is good. Whilst we wait I hope no-one lets their guard down over social distancing and other measures. There are still over 1,000 people dying every day.

I completely agree with this. Whilst the successful development of any new vaccine is certainly good news, the thread title is rather misleading. The UK doesn't have 60 million doses, it has secured the right to get 60 million doses. According to the BBC article linked above "The doses are expected to be delivered in the second half of this year, if approved for use by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

Looks like all the flag shaggers are having fun!

Strange article and strange discussion.

@ramblingsonthego

The UK signed up for 60 million doses in August last year for Novavax. In December 2020 the EU were still negotiating for Novavax. So they can get to the back of the queue again.

I don’t know how far the EU novavax deal has got but, if you were them, watching how AZ has been treated, wouldn’t you be thinking hard about whether you wanted to sign with the EU at all.

@LouiseBelchersBunnyEars

It’s just amazing how it’s one rule for the UK and one for the EU.

Some of you lot would be singing a very different tune if the roles were reversed here.

If your morals are dependent, not on what happens, but on WHO is doing what, they aren’t morals.
They’re just tribalism.

‘We should all share together’
Ha fucking ha.
When we were low on ventilators, not ONE of you were suggesting the EU share with us.
It was all ‘we’ve made our bed, we didn’t order enough in time, our citizens are suffering and we only have ourselves to blame’
Now it’s the EU who didn’t sort out their admin in time, now the tables have turned and it’s all ‘We need to sort all of Europe out, and share and all be in in together as it will affect us all’

The hypocrisy is astonishing.

Why the U-turn in opinions? What do people gain from consistently painting the UK in a bad light? It’s honestly mental. Really embarrassing actually

I agree with this and find the implications that your mental health is suspect because you said it, rather disgusting.

@SaraGilbert your first paragraph is exactly why we should be committed to getting vaccines to the UK public.

Re: variants. Apparently the UK does much more genome sequencing than many other countries so it gets stuck with a British name (my source is a science podcast) much like the Spanish flu which wasn't actually Spanish. I'm not saying they definitely aren't home grown strains but if countries aren't sequencing who the hell knows?

Piss off with vaccine nationalism will you. Just listen to yourselves. How disgusting you sound, being gleeful you can stick it to the EU. That's peoples lives you are talking about. People mourning deaths in the same way we are.

We need the vaccine to roll out globally. If one country struggles with this, we all struggle with it.

I really don't like the jingoism around the reporting but yes, it must be good news.

My sis and dcs are worried about how long it will take them to get the vaccine. Ironically, they live in Belgium!
I'm not gloating over the problems in the EU at all.

And von der Leyen who seems to think she still rules us.

Never seen sore winners like some of the Brexi lot. You’re out. You got what you wanted, so now the U.K. needs to realize that the EU 27 economies are competitors, plain and simple, no different than China, Japan, the Americas, etc If they can benefit the citizens of the EU 27 at the expense of the U.K. which is not in the EU 27 they will do it. It’s called “Brexit”.

We should be concerned about how poorer countries are not getting vaccines. They should be a priority.
The longer the virus is allowed to continue in a context of patchy immunity, the greater the chance of mutations that could render the vaccines we have and the vaccines some people in rich countries have already received, less effective or ineffective.

Jingoistic flag waving is do depressing.

The remainder/leave argument is just being dragged across so many threads at the moment.

It’s so depressing.

I'd much prefer someone vulnerable/old in another country to have a vaccine before me (healthy, thirties)

And it will really wind the EU up!!!

The state of that comment. This isn’t a game of football ffs.