There's another vaccine! And we've got 60 million shots! And it's made here!

[HelloThereMeHearties]

And it's effective against the new UK variant!

And it will really wind the EU up!!!

Novavax has passed its stage three trial, now hopefully the MHRA will approve it!!!

I think people are getting whipped up by the EU campaign to cover themselves in the eyes of their combined citizens.

This is just some backwash to that.

Shows it has worked on generating more heat than light!

Good news!

The internet's a wonderful thing. You can make outrageously improbable statements and people can believe you typed them with a straight face

In this instance the U.K. haven’t done anything wrong.

From Peter Liese German MEP:

I think the only consequence can be to immediately stop the export of the BioNTech vaccine and then we are in the middle of a trade war. So, the company and the UK better think twice."

Well I certainly don't think we have said anything of this nature in the last 2/3days, in fact I think the government have remained fairly neutral

the UK prime minister, echoed the MHRA. “This is a local German decision and the EMA will, as I understand it, be approving it for general use,” he said. “I think that’s very sensible of the EMA, because that is the vaccine our own MHRA has said produces an immune response in all age groups, as a good vaccine, so I’m confident about it.

Mr Johnson told the coronavirus briefing: On supply from vaccines abroad to this country, I have got total confidence in our supplies.
We have been over this many times over the last days and hours
All I will say is that we expect and hope that our EU friends will honour all contracts."
We will continue and we fully expect that will happen."
We will continue to work with friends and partners in the EU and indeed around the world
The delivery of the vaccine has been a multinational effort and the creation of the vaccine has been a multinational effort

Can only see mudslinging going one way.

I agree OP, and I think it's awful that the other OP got rounded on.

@HmmSureJan

Tbh I’m not sure. I’ve lived outside of Scotland for years now and my family who remain wouldn’t really be big enough a research scope to make a guess.

In my opinion Nicola heads up a one cause party. The Scots love her straight talking and many English I know admire her fierce presentation skills also, she’s very talented.
Scotland may benefit very well from being in the EU, Ireland did.
I used to be dead against it myself but now I’m weary about it. Maybe that’s what progress looks like.
One things for certain though, Nicola will certainly benefit.

Off topic >

@ramblingsonthego

The UK signed up for 60 million doses in August last year for Novavax. In December 2020 the EU were still negotiating for Novavax. So they can get to the back of the queue again.

I seem to remember another nationality telling uk we be back if queue on trade deals with USA if we voted leave EU it was Barack Obama. I everything in life we wait our turn. Considering eu only started talks with nova in December there maybe some delay.

" I agree OP, and I think it's awful that the other OP got rounded on."

Christ on a bike, what did the other OP invite us to celebrate?

??

Reporting the thread was unnecessary.

It's pretty clear that OP meant the EU bureaucracy and not the EU population.

OP, I agree. It's great news about the vaccine and I've read that many countries (including the Block) have put in orders.

I, also, sincerely hope that vaccine supplies get diverted (from wherever) and given to the most at risk populations in the UK, EU and elsewhere because it is absolutely right to protect the most vulnerable/at risk first.

"Reporting the thread was unnecessary."

I disagree. This is a cock up that is killing people. There are empty vaccination centres.

Imagine if it was the reverse and there were French people delighting in how "would up" we were.

it's revolting.

@feelingverylazytoday

It will really wind the EU up Really? Bit of a childish reaction. People in the EU deserve to be protected against this horrible virus as much as British people do. It's not a competition.

People in the U.K. also were worthy of the PPE that was held up in Europe last year.

it's fine to celebrate winding up the EU about sporting victories or some minor competition for an achievement.

But in the context of there being a vaccine they can't get?

come on!

Flippyferloppy

I'm sure I read yesterday AZ has agreed to show the contract. I don't have a source though sorry.

I mean this is not the bloody Eurovision song contest....why would we want them "wound up"?

I've reported this thread.

I'm sure the OP isnt' actually intending for us to dance on the graves of those currently dying unnecessarilly in Paris due to a contractual snafu but this will attrack those who do enjoy such dances.

STFU everyone just in case something happens, which hasn't happened yet, but yeah STFU!

The main point of this thread to me is that it' works against the new variant.

As for annoying the EU, I have been disgusted with Stella K's antics. She has forgotten that there are a great many EU citizens in the UK, but seems quite happy for them to go without vaccines. Plus the fact the EMA hasn't even approved the AZ vaccine yet (may have done this morning while I've been typing this).

The EU ordered too late and is now panicking because people are complaining. Some EU member state health ministers criticised the UK for approving the vaccine before the EMA did, though they then backtracked. Lets remember the EMA was in the UK until recently and many of the people working there who didn't move to Amsterdam are probably now working for the UK MHRA.

I actually think most of the vitriol has been by the EU although some of the playground "we've vaccinated more people than the rest of Europe put together" was a bit pathetic. That said, the UK government really needed a good news story and a relatively efficient vaccine roll-out was definitely one so I'll let them off.

Thanks for your thoughts @IheartJKR

I seem to recall lots of people on here berating they U.K. government for not joining the EU procurement programme for everything covid related. Look how many people we have managed to vaccinate whilst the EU dilly dally over approvals. Look at when we ordered the new vaccine compared to the EU. Look at how the EU have treated us and basically told us we will fail without them.

Maybe EU citizens need to take their governments to task over these delays and cock ups. Do people really think France and Germany would have been freely shipping vaccines over here??

Thank God for Brexit!

I wonder which medium incites these weird storms, and what would happen if the message was to "raid Brussels to show them" or similar.

I have no problem with being relieved that (for once) we don't seem to have cocked up and/or we aren't the victims of whatever cockup has happened.

But why would it "wind up" the EU that the new vaccine will be manufactured here? It will wind them up because their death rates are or will be increasing for want of the vaccine.

Why are we being invited to celebrate a potential repeat of that?

this is very wrong.

@IheartJKR

Finally, Nicola Sturgeon. WTF. Siding with the EU. Why doesn't she say that she doesn't want any more jabs for Scotland and pass them over then? The more I hear her, the less I care about the future of the union

I’m a Scot and I’ll never forgive Nicola for laying the shit on when our country is already in its knees.
Nicola has exploited this pandemic for her own ends, she’d fit in well in the EU tbh.

You’re spot on!!!!

The deliberate misrepresentation of individuals statements on this thread is very frustrating.

Nobody here has stated that they take pleasure in anyone’s misfortune.

Several people have expressed their displeasure at the conduct of EUnion as many other European citizens have.

I don't think anyone is celebrating empty vaccine centres in the EU. I know I'm not. Every death is a tragedy regardless of where it is.

However, there are reasons that EU vaccine centres are empty and ours are not. Reasons including the slowness of the EU in ordering vaccine (and thus the relative delay in scaling up production) and the slow vaccine approval process. As I write this, Oxford/AZ is still not approved so, even if there were swimming pools loads of it in every European capital then their vaccine centres would still be empty.

It is perfectly reasonable to celebrate the success of the UK rollout, and be sad for those less fortunate, and to recognise that the responsibility for that lies with their own leaders.

"Nobody here has stated that they take pleasure in anyone’s misfortune."

the OP says that the fact the latest vaccine is being manufactured here: "will really wind the EU up!"

@HelloThereMeHearties

And it's effective against the new UK variant!

And it will really wind the EU up!!!

Novavax has passed its stage three trial, now hopefully the MHRA will approve it!!!

Absolutely pathetic. Do you go to bed wrapped in the Union Jack?

@ImsorryWilson

"Nobody here has stated that they take pleasure in anyone’s misfortune."

the OP says that the fact the latest vaccine is being manufactured here: "will really wind the EU up!"

I thought op meant the politicians- however I agree it was in poor taste and thoughtless.