Do you feel sorry for Boris?

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Seeing the headlines in the papers today and there seems a lot of sympathy for him. The front pages see him looking really forlorn and sorrow regarding the death toll.

When you think a year ago he was planning on ushering in what he deemed as a golden age of Britain. Now 12 months later it's in tatters.

I can understand the sympathy, but wonder whether a Labour PM would be offered the same.

Although I will say that you trying to equate GP contracts with the deaths of 100,00 people is pretty surreal.

@PinkyParrot Boris or anyone else is deliberately making life difficult for swathes of the country is nonsense, they are doing what they hope will keep them in power in the long term ie what keeps the majority happy

Well that's where Mr Johnson has come unstuck, as I think you'll find the majority are now far from happy - for a whole range of reasons.

@PinkyParrot

I'm with *@GetOffYourHighHorse* Constant whingeing and criticising when the bottom line is people have a huge chipdue to the privilege of Old Etonians. Non-privileged people don't want to spend their lives representing their constitueny - they prefer to get ahead, make money, provide better opportunities for their DCs ie not as MPs. So we are left with Old Etonians who will spend time in Gov. Not ideal. But the other bottom line is that any politician wants to be in power so to pretend that Boris or anyone else is deliberately making life difficult for swathes of the country is nonsense, they are doing what they hope will keep them in power in the long term ie what keeps the majority happy.

You think poor people don't become MPs because they just don't really feel like it? Well, for starters that doesn't work as, for example, the SNP has plenty of working class MPs and MSPs.

Do you not think it's got anything to do with access, internships, relationships, confidence, money to run in the first place, the luxury of taking a punt and being able to give up your day job to run full time, just off the top of my head?

Not ideal. But the other bottom line is that any politician wants to be in power so to pretend that Boris or anyone else is deliberately making life difficult for swathes of the country is nonsense

Johnson isn't just any politician and it's wrong to lump them all together like yet. Yes, MP's are ambitious and career-driven but a lot still manage to have principles alongside that. Many others are pretty selfish but able to carry out their role properly.

Johnson is far beyond any of that. When the leadership contest was held people who know him personally queued up to say that he was totally unfit to hold a job with so much responsibility. The Tory Party decided otherwise and now we're all paying for it, many of us with our lives.

We're talking about Boris who lives in London - someone who lives in rural Scotland has limited options (if they stay in Scotland) and don't need to earn enough to live in London so an MPs salary is fine.

held people who know him personally queued up to say that he was totally unfit to hold a job with so much responsibility
I wouldn't dispute this but he takes advice from experts- I don't think he believes he is a Trumplike God.

I think he is very willing to dismiss anything he perceives as damaging his brand: he doesn't want to be the bad news guy.

That's fine, but he fought to become PM then got landed with a pandemic. His major response through the whole thing has basically boiled down to gaslighting the public and telling them everything is ok, when 100,000 families can prove that isn't true.

That's fucking maniacal. At no point has he gone 'shit the bed, people are dying, I better address that.'

Nope, it's mostly him still doing performance politics; if I say it's fine and handshake some proles, the country will keep bouncing along, some of them will die but that's not going to puncture my perfect moment as PM.

Essentially a privileged psychopath.

'You're derailing the thread because you, like Johnson, don't know when to resign.'

Derailing/asking awkward questions. It's bizarre! why won't any of the rabid Johnson critics attempt to answer my question. Again, when the other 3 nations have similar death and infection rates clearly it is a demographic, compliance, obesity, density issue and not because Johnson hasn't followed the same advice the devolved nations have. Why does he get hate on here and #ThankyouNicola gets a pompom wave when she's done far worse. 5m people in Scotland! Compare that to other small countries they are wayyyy ahead tragic death wise.

Ill try to find your earlier. response @IncludeWomenInTheSequel.

@PinkyParrot

held people who know him personally queued up to say that he was totally unfit to hold a job with so much responsibility I wouldn't dispute this but he takes advice from experts- I don't think he believes he is a Trumplike God.

I'm not seeing any evidence that he takes advice from experts Pinky. He didn't take the advice of medical professionals early on about containing the virus, went against advice from Whitty and the rest to say that ppl could have an xmas break from restrictions. Refused to sack Cummings, despite being told how damaging the scandal was to compliance with the regs. Didn't follow advice from other countries that have been through SARS etc. Didn't follow advice on how best to implement Track and Trace system. The list goes on and on.

He must be listening to someone because I don't think he's got the mind to take on these issues himself, but I've no idea who that someone is.

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'You're derailing the thread because you, like Johnson, don't know when to resign.'

Derailing/asking awkward questions. It's bizarre! why won't any of the rabid Johnson critics attempt to answer my question. Again, when the other 3 nations have similar death and infection rates clearly it is a demographic, compliance, obesity, density issue and not because Johnson hasn't followed the same advice the devolved nations have. Why does he get hate on here and #ThankyouNicola gets a pompom wave when she's done far worse. 5m people in Scotland! Compare that to other small countries they are wayyyy ahead tragic death wise.

Ill try to find your earlier. response @IncludeWomenInTheSequel.

He's getting hate on here because the thread is about him. I'm not sure how gleefully proclaiming how many tragic deaths there have been in other nations, is appropriate. Having the worse death rate per capita, in the world speaks for itself.

These are people's lives.

No, I don't feel sorry for him.
He's an incompetent narcissistic toe-rag.

I do feel a little sorry for some of the people who buy into his brand - they can't help being born stupid.

No he is a spineless arse who is responsible for thousands of deaths due to his inability to make a difficult decision guided by experts.

I feel more sorry for him than Tony Blair who sent my brothers to war, for sure.

I get that. Both of my colleague's parents died last week in the space of one hour, so there are 1000s of families who have a legitimate reason to dislike the current PM as well.

No. He’s the worst PM in history and should be in prison, not in power.

@ComputerIsLoading

I feel more sorry for him than Tony Blair who sent my brothers to war, for sure.

Did they not choose to join the armed forces? My son serves but it’s a decision he made. When he deploys, it’s because he choyto accept a Commission.

He's quoted on the BBC news as saying an independence referendum is 'completely irrelevant' to Scottish people.

How fucking DARE he. I don't want to be part of his nation. I'm ashamed of much of what we stand for now. My democratic vote for a pro-independence party is being cast off as irrelevant.

He's quoted on the BBC news as saying an independence referendum is 'completely irrelevant' to Scottish people.

That's not going to help the Union survive, is it? Stupid man.

No, it won’t help the union survive and I honestly think he’ll preside over it breaking up. Scotland, quite rightly, wants to rule itself and I fully expect it to become independent in my life time. There’s apparently a growing appetite in Northern Ireland for a united Ireland.

Is the break up of the UK a price worth paying for Brexit and the most incompetent government in living memory? I suspect Johnson will not be viewed kindly by history.

He's quoted on the BBC news as saying an independence referendum is 'completely irrelevant' to Scottish people.

Hope he comes back soon and talks more fucking shite we will have independence before we know it.

Constant whingeing and criticising when the bottom line is people have a huge chip due to the privilege of Old Etonians.

Nope, people quite understandably feel aggrieved by the social inequality that that system represents. The economic and health outcomes that are rigged and skewed by its continued stranglehold on democracy. The bottom line is justifiable anger at those who use their privilege to manipulate and oppress. You can fuck off with your snide dismissive 'chips on their shoulders' put downs. You can't excuse the gross and deadly failings of that over-privileged caste of morons by shaming those whose lives are blighted by the institutional rot.

No, it won’t help the union survive and I honestly think he’ll preside over it breaking up. Scotland, quite rightly, wants to rule itself and I fully expect it to become independent in my life time. I don't want independence. You don't speak for me.

Nope...arrogance and short sightedness does not make me feel sorry for the ensuing disaster of his and his party's own doing

Nobody said they did speak for you, @derxa. It will be the majority that decides, should there be another vote, however (obviously independence may be rejected again, but comments designed to piss the Scottish people off aren't going to help intra-Union relations).

Not even slightly. He's self centred, grasping and immature. He should never have been given high office, he doesn't have the integrity, humility or strength of character needed for it.