Headteachers proposal

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9179961/Headteachers-send-Boris-Johnson-plan-vaccinate-one-million-staff-half-term.html

Headteachers proposed a blueprint to vaccinate all teachers and staff so that pupils can go back after Feb half term. Ministers yet to respond.

If Teachers and staff are vaccinated then pupils can return as and when families are comfortable.
If vulnerable family members are vaccinated then it’s a decision for each family.

@TheKeatingFive

Would these vaccines not have to be diverted from older and clinically vulnerable types that are more likely to die or be hospitalised if they got Covid?

Because if so, that’s a terrible idea.

Maybe they could give it to teachers/TAs instead of friends/family of people in the NHS.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/politics/warrington-hospital-offers-covid-19-friends-and-family-list-for-relatives-of-nhs-staff-to-get-vaccine-841626/amp

True but from the Government's point of view, community spread has dire ramifications.

-instead of friends/family of people in the NHS.

This being wrong doesn’t make giving it to teachers ahead of the vulnerable right.

@Mischance

How would that make it possible for schools to reopen? The problem lies in the children spreading it between themselves and taking it home to vulnerable family members. I agree it would be great if staff had the vaccine and educe their likelihood of getting infected, but there is no way that would open the way for schools to reopen.

It is slightly disturbing that head teachers - who are supposed to be intelligent - are proposing this and show so little grasp of the facts of covid life.

Surely we should have the choice? I personally have no qualms about sending my children back to school. I see the risk to myself as relatively low. I see the risk to my children’s mental health and education as being high the longer they are off school. If you choose to keep home educating then great but at least both sides get a choice this way.

@noblegiraffe

This is a few renegade heads by the look of it.

Renegade or forward thinking maybe!

So this is a proposal from private schools, I gather? I suppose it might make sense for boarding only schools - they would not be transmitting back to parents and grandparents.

This is such a frustrating click bait article.

1. where is the supply of vaccine coming from and who will be deprioritised to allow this?

2. absolutely no consideration for what this will do to community spread. The issue is not even the parents of the kids who might get it in school, it’s their contacts and the contacts of those contacts etc. This isn’t a situation where everyone gets to decide what level of risk is appropriate for them individually, it’s a public health issue so we need population level intervention.

So the parents happy to take the risk, does that mean you don't see anyone else ever or go anywhere?

I think teachers and school staff should be vaccinated after the priorities 1-9 in April and then schools can go back after May half term. Hopefully community cases will be much lower by then too.

There’s a massive risk to teachers yes. That is clear as day and they should be protected. The elephant in the classroom though is the pupil vectors, mixing spreading and taking disease home with them to their families. Pupils must wear masks when they eventually go back that needs to be the headline.

@Bvop

The thing is, if infections are rife among pupils, you then spread it to the adults in their families. The teachers might be okay, but the infection rate for the rest of us gets supercharged. I think the headteachers haven’t thought this through!

This in spades

Ah it makes more sense for private boarding schools.

Yes because I can’t keep hiding from this! It’s a virus it does it’s thing! You can’t keep locking the country down.

Yes, pcr tests before they step foot in school, mandatory masks...

What do you suggest they do with ICU and hospitals? Let it rip and watch the oxygen run out a la Mexico?

Aren't there 12 weeks between the 2 doses of vaccines and then a couple of weeks after the second one before they become effective, so vaccinating teachers in April doesn't mean they will all be done by mid May

Renegade or forward thinking maybe!

Scientifically illiterate, certainly.

The Sunday newspaper headlines are saying schools unlikely to open until after Easter.

It is quite interesting. It actually highlights the givernment lies about schools being safe and that transmitions magically doesn't happen in schools 🙄😣 it's almost challenging the givernment to put their money where their mouth is. The government knows full well that schools help increase community transmition but have been happy to lie through their teeth that they are safe rather than face up to parents and say masks are mandatory, testing proof needed etc and invest money, the are happy for the public to blame teachers and unions for all the issues faced by schools.
Useless idea in terms of opening schools but interesting never the less.

I’m sure it’s exactly right to vaccinate all teachers, including those who are unlikely to get sick.

It means the kids can go back to school three weeks later, because the teachers are protected.

It’s a shame to divert those vaccines from people who might die from covid, but as teachers on here keep saying, they are hugely at risk and they don’t feel safe. I’m assuming the ones who arent likely to get sick don’t feel safe in case they get sick. Which is unlikely.

It won’t stop community transmission, as children were thought to be spreading it. But stopping community transmission will only help the NHS, it won’t help teachers.

The government doesn't give a shit if teachers get sick so they won't go for this. They only closed the schools because the community spread they were causing was getting out of hand. Teachers have been at risk all along.

Won’t work. Children will still spread it around to their families & the wider community.

@OverTheRainbowLiesOz

Slight flaws -

1. The vaccine takes three weeks to kick in.
2. What about community spread to vulnerable parents and Grandparents?

What about mutating viruses where community transmission become high again. I think the headteachers are lunatics. They need to seriously go back to school. Absolute lunacy. What about the vunerable children, parents, grandparents, husbands, wives, partners, etc.

They cannot take the chance of a virus that mutates and becomes deadly.