Endless Propaganda

[Bewareoftheblob]

I cannot believe the endless Covid propaganda on the news channels at the moment. There doesn't seem to be any challenge to the stay at home/don't kill Gran/crying nurses narrative at all.

I am pretty disgusted by the emotional manipulation and attempts at behaviour modification going on.

Or am I being unreasonable...

@mycatscausehell thats a good point about treating yourself at home and it would also be valuable to teach people to recognise when you should seek help. The problem with this particular virus is the Happy hypoxic scenario, some people think they are doing OK but are actually really sick, I encountered this with my relatives, who when they were eventually persuaded to go to hospital had oxygen sats of 84% and 76%.

I also thought the Clive Myrie report was a spoof.

@Bewareoftheblob

Actually according to public health England you are more likely to get it in 'f@cking Tesco' than hospital

Their November study showed these
Results:

•	Supermarket - 18.3 percent 
•	Secondary school - 12.7 percent
•	Primary school - 10.1 percent
•	Hospital - 3.6 percent
•	Care home - 2.8 percent
•	College - 2.4 percent
•	Warehouse - 2.2 percent
•	Nursery preschool - 1.8 percent
•	Pub or bar - 1.6 percent
•	Hospitality - 1.5 percent
•	University - 1.4 percent
•	Manufacture engineering - 1.4 percent
•	Household fewer than five - 1.2 percent
•	General practice - 1.1 percent
•	Gym - 1.1 percent
•	Restaurant or cafe - 1.0 percent

But I guess they are part of the agenda trying to condition you....

@InTheDrunkTank OMG 😂😂

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/23/minister-faces-fury-over-mass-covid-outbreak-at-top-government-agency

It's fine, if you honestly cannot see the utter chaos and destruction these lockdowns are causing then it's on you. I don't blame you if you are not affected but the majority is affected.
You can remain in your little bubble.

As per "mumsnet is known for being particularly low down the IQ scale" May I remind you that you are also a Mumsnet member 😉

@InTheDrunkTank "You just believe whatever is most convenient for you"

Yes and the same applies to you 😉

@Greysparkles

This thread makes me sad

It's not propaganda!! Almost 100,000 people have died! 30, 40, 50, 60 year olds included.

Much of the rest of the world are watching the UK in horror.

Unemployment due to lockdowns

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/24/gordon-brown-300000-uk-jobless-hidden-by-official-figures

bylinetimes.com/2021/01/21/boris-johnsons-ultimate-trick-turning-personal-responsibility-into-collective-blame/

Lovely

Do you know what propaganda is? It’s not false information, it’s manipulation.

To those who believe that factual coverage of a once-in-a-lifetime, devastating pandemic amounts to "propaganda" - you are mental.

I'm fed up of all the buzz words, phrases & protect the NHS. Fed up of opening the already thin local newspaper to find 5 pages of Covid news, 2 pages of propaganda, that only leaves the death announcements TV listings & football.

To those who believe that factual coverage of a once-in-a-lifetime, devastating pandemic amounts to "propaganda" - you are mental.

This.

You don’t think the government use propaganda?

You are so very badly informed. They put out information. Some of it is straight facts, some of it is propaganda designed to influence the way the public think.

If you can’t distinguish between the two, you ought to look again before labelling people ‘mental.’ Was that the best word you could come up with?

To those who believe that factual coverage of a once-in-a-lifetime, devastating pandemic amounts to "propaganda" - you are mental

When we have a marry go round of people in hospital beds, crying nurses and family members of some elderly person who died in the news, then we are close to propaganda.

There are other things happening in the world. It's just that the UK media doesn't seem to care much about reporting it anymore.

@WalrusWife

Like most people, I am staying home. What else do you want from me? Blood?

This is it

Wtf else am I meant to do? I’m sorry the NHS can’t cope but it’s hardly my fucking fault.

I am pissed off that the government are the ones who fucked up and caused mass deaths, not us, and yet we are the ones guilt tripped and terrified into compliance. Fucking bastards.

The latest ad “can you look them in the eye” yes I fucking can actually. I’ve barely been over my door for months, and same for my husband and children as they’ve been banned from going to school or work.

What a total fucking farce.

*It's not propaganda!! Almost 100,000 people have died! 30, 40, 50, 60 year olds included.

Much of the rest of the world are watching the UK in horror.*

I know they have. But it’s because of the virus acting like the virus and government uselessness, not us.

@MissEspresso

I visited a friend today (on the doorstep), to offer my condolences after her dad died last week from covid. She is devastated that they lost him in this way - unable to visit him when he was conscious and then only two of the family could visit to say goodbye when he was on a ventilator. She is also wracked with guilt for spending Christmas Day with him, before they all developed symptoms and tested positive days later. I think the government were giving the wrong message before, that schools were safe, people could get together for a family Christmas etc and people thought things were ok. The case and death rates show that things are in fact dire.

That is terrible.

Boris has her dad’s blood on his hands. Not us. And yet we are the ones being guilt tripped by the propaganda

I’m in Canada, cases are extremely low in my area. The health service was in pretty good condition prior to Covid (shortage of gp’s in my area but it’s made up for to an extent by FaceTiming apps).

We are still subject to constant messaging about how dangerous it is and how we must all distance and wear masks (mandatory in public places, most shops do not allow exempt people in). People who catch it are shamed and compliance is extremely high. Suicides are up, businesses are closing, but we must not speak of this. There is government funded sick leave if you have Covid or flu, but (depending where you live and the cost of housing) it’s often not enough to live off.

So Even where cases are low and the health service is coping just fine the messaging is constant, the news covers little else, people are terribly anxious about it. It’s not just the UK, very few countries seem to be approaching this in a level-headed way. Canada had the SARS outbreak in Toronto and the whole country was not bombarded like this.

Look up Edward Bernays, father of modern marketing who notably encouraged flappers to smoke in homage to womens suffrage..... torches of freedom anyone? And then read how much Goebbels admired his work.....

My 76 year old mother died of terminal cancer last April, thankfully at home with me. Grateful for small mercies, obviously. Of course if her doctors hadn't spent at least a year telling her it was probably IBS and dicking about with a Fodmap diet and multiple digestive drugs, rather that evaluating her properly, her stage 4 ovarian cancer might have been picked up before it was inoperable and the two rounds of chemo that rendered her last months help might not have been necessary. During her palliative care, I visited her at her home, masked and gloved before she ended up with me. Wonderful - genuinely lovely, wonderful and compassionate district nurses were not masked up, despite her " shielding status" because they had not been told to. I asked, gently, and that's what I was told. Getting her to our house to live as she entered her final month was aggressively vetoed because Covid by the Macmillan nurses who were being moved to other areas because Covid despite our area having miniscule cases right up until just before Chrustmas thos year. Fortunately her GP got her onto hospital for 24 hours for sodium stabilisation and then she could be released to my care at my home as the falls she had had meant she could no longer live alone. It was hellish and surreal. She died a horrible death regardless of Covid.

MIL is a similar age, in a care home with mixed Alzheimers, a robust, resilient woman who lived a very healthy lifestyle. She hasn't recognised us for over a year. Our contact is now fully remote. She tested positive for Covid in the summer and asymptomatic. She has no quality of ,life but we had to give permission for her vaccine last week. She has zero quality of life,

DP a d I are now borderline alcoholics. My retail business is down the pan DP fortunately is furloughed.

My adult son works festivals and events, well, he used to. His DP is in hospitality and furloughed...... she had Covid the first case I'd seen over Christmas. We live together, the four of us. None of us had as much as a sniffle despite being older a d relatively unhealthy lifestyle. We did obey the rules. Close contacts which got tested came back negative.

I am borderline agoraphobic not because Im not scared of the virus - que sera sera - but because of the militant lockdown enthusiasts. We can't afford a fine.

I agree with you OP.

It's ALL a tragedy, a governmental clusterfuck catastrophe.

The vaccine is something I'm not allowed to question because I'm not a scientist, but my brain cannot compute that even getting the vaccine just may minimise symptoms and hospital admissions, but transmission is a grey area. Wish that would be made clear rather than it being held up as the Holy fucking Grail.

I'm drunk and shameless in this moment and think it all stinks, start to finish, and yes we will always be at war with Covidia apparently....

There are some utter morons on this thread. I wish I could just say go out and do what you want and get covid but I imagine you will expect some oxygen when you get sick and also spread it to MY family on the rare occasions they leave the house for a food shop.
It terrifies me that people with so little understanding of science exist still after a YEAR of constant opportunities to learn about this disease and the way it works

Also for the economy fans out there I am not sure a significant part of your working population dying because they can’t access basic health care when the hospitals are full is great for the economy works that well. In fact you seem to be advocating for all those people with cancer etc to just be abandoned to die (because you want COVID to run free through the population which will remove ANY chance of the healthcare system functioning) which I suppose, technically will save the country some cash but you clearly are pretty horrible people if that’s the case