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Should I send my child to pre school

218 replies

HearMeRawwr · 21/01/2021 10:22

My child's preschool is open as normal but given the current infection rates in England I'm wary of sending her. She's ambivalent, she seems to enjoy it, however she equally happy spending time with me (I'm a SAHM).
I'm also worried they may close all pre school settings as further covid reduction/control measures, and don't want her further disruption to her routine.
WWYD

OP posts:
Nicknamegoeshere · 23/01/2021 12:53

@cdododo There's actually a simple solution to the threadworm problem. Send your kids to private school. My ex-husband says the children there never have nits or worms! Grin

insancerre · 23/01/2021 13:11

@Icdododo
Ok, I will resign immediately

IndecentFeminist · 23/01/2021 13:12

The lovely staff at my son's preschool still pick them all up for a big cuddle when necessary, so they're clearly not worried about threadworms, nits or covid.

Bumblebee1980a · 23/01/2021 13:29

[quote insancerre]@Icdododo
Ok, I will resign immediately[/quote]
That's the most sensible thing you've said on this thread!

Freddiefox · 23/01/2021 14:29

@IndecentFeminist

The lovely staff at my son's preschool still pick them all up for a big cuddle when necessary, so they're clearly not worried about threadworms, nits or covid.
Hmm, I pick the children up at work all the time, if they are upset or just want a hug. Just because I do the job, doesn’t mean we aren’t worried about Covid. All my staff do their job, with compassion and care, but they are all clearly worried.
IndecentFeminist · 23/01/2021 19:21

I was responding to Insancerre

Itsnotlikethiswithotherpeople · 25/01/2021 08:54

@insancerre

I work in a nursery and I’m certainly not happy to be there but I wouldn’t tell any parent that I would smile and lie through my teeth because that’s it’s not good for business for parents to think the staff are unhappy I have worked with children for many years and assume that every child has nits, so don’t do head to head contact, I also assume that every child has threadworms so I never hold their hands, I hold round their wrists instead. I now am beginning to assume every child could have Covid, so that massively affects how I deal with them, it’s much more hands off than it used to be People can send their children if they need to but don’t expect the same level of care
I mean this kindly, I do think you need to move on. Your mindset isn’t normal.
Bumblebee1980a · 25/01/2021 09:38

@Itsnotlikethiswithotherpeople

If a member of staff did this at DS they would be sacked. DS school is a loving school and we get sent tapestry photos / videos most days with teachers holding their hands, lifting them up and giving them cuddles. Such a shame some staff don't hold the same values.

Shame on you @insancerre you probably need to consider a change of career - and that's putting it mildly.

insancerre · 25/01/2021 11:20

@Bumblebee1980a
I don’t think you can get sacked for taking sensible precautions to prevent catching illnesses from children

insancerre · 25/01/2021 11:43

And I’m not paid to love the children
That’s not my job

Bumblebee1980a · 25/01/2021 15:36

@insancerre

And I’m not paid to love the children That’s not my job
@insancerre

What a peculiar thing to say. No one mentioned the word love. However, funny you should say that as I found this:

Positive Relationships:
Children learn to be strong and independent from a base of loving and secure relationships with parents and/or a key person.

(National strategies (EYFS) Guidance for practitioner working in the Early Years, 2008).

One of the prime areas of EYFS are a child’s personal, social and emotional development. Cuddling and comforting (as well as many other things) are the foundations of successful emotional development. How are you supporting this when you won’t even hold their hand when they are feeling tired or upset?

I don’t know the ages you are suppose to be supporting but if you work in a nursery you could be working with babies (part of this prime area would be being aware of the important of attachment in relationships) so how would you support this?

You said you worked in a private school so I’m assuming that’s from 2 and a half or 3 years old. So if you’re their key person and have to spend one to one time with them and you read them a story and they want to sit on your knee. How would you manage that?

To be suitable this job you your personal characteristics are to be caring, kind, approachable and reassuring and the qualities you listed are not consistent with this.

insancerre · 25/01/2021 18:25

@Bumblebee1980a
You mentioned love, you said
“ DS school is a loving school ”

insancerre · 25/01/2021 18:27

@Bumblebee1980a
I’m actually very good at my job, I’ve won awards going back many years
It doesn’t stop me feeling anxious about the current situation though

Idontbelieveit12 · 25/01/2021 18:41

@Ilovegreentomatoes

What about the mental health of the nursery staff? Of course because you had a chat with some and they were all so happy to be back!Hmm
This!

It’s soul destroying knowing you’ve not hugged your own mum for 10 months but you can hug little Johnny while his mum swans around on walks with her friends, and in and out of each other’s cars and houses.

And for the record, nobody I work with is happy to be at work! We are all terrified.

Bumblebee1980a · 26/01/2021 09:51

@Idontbelieveit12

but you can hug little Johnny while his mum swans around on walks with her friends, and in and out of each other’s cars and houses.

so is this what parents of nursery children do? Where did you get this insight from? Your imagination? 🙄

I don't go anywhere. Not even the supermarket. My son goes to nursery. That is all.

You're a key worker you need to do the job you're paid to do. Statistically children in the early years are less likely to contract the virus and pass it on.

In DS nursery they wear PPE and get tested once a week. There has been ZERO cases of covid since March 2020 in DS nursery.

Your probably more at risk at the supermarket!!!

Bumblebee1980a · 26/01/2021 09:54

[quote insancerre]@Bumblebee1980a
You mentioned love, you said
“ DS school is a loving school ”[/quote]
I said 'a loving school' not loving the children although I'm sure some teachers do.

Is that all you took from my essay of a reply 🙈😆

I'm not sure what wining awards proves.

Idontbelieveit12 · 26/01/2021 10:02

[quote Bumblebee1980a]@Idontbelieveit12

but you can hug little Johnny while his mum swans around on walks with her friends, and in and out of each other’s cars and houses.

so is this what parents of nursery children do? Where did you get this insight from? Your imagination? 🙄

I don't go anywhere. Not even the supermarket. My son goes to nursery. That is all.

You're a key worker you need to do the job you're paid to do. Statistically children in the early years are less likely to contract the virus and pass it on.

In DS nursery they wear PPE and get tested once a week. There has been ZERO cases of covid since March 2020 in DS nursery.

Your probably more at risk at the supermarket!!!

[/quote]
I know it’s what they do, they do it in full view outside of the building, the kids tell us they have been to each other’s houses etc!

If you’d be happy to do this on minimum wage with no PPE crack on love.

Bumblebee1980a · 26/01/2021 10:07

@Idontbelieveit12

So you'd do it if you were paid more.

I wouldn't do anything for minimum wage hence why I furthered my education so I wouldn't be.

Covid would not stop me doing the job I was paid to do, especially in the eyes sector.

Bumblebee1980a · 26/01/2021 10:07

EYFS sector

Idontbelieveit12 · 26/01/2021 10:14

[quote Bumblebee1980a]@Idontbelieveit12

So you'd do it if you were paid more.

I wouldn't do anything for minimum wage hence why I furthered my education so I wouldn't be.

Covid would not stop me doing the job I was paid to do, especially in the eyes sector. [/quote]
You’re absolutely delightful aren’t you. I have a degree, I’m doing the job because it fits around my youngest child.

Bumblebee1980a · 26/01/2021 10:18

@Idontbelieveit12

So it's ok for you to be derogatory about parents sending their children in nursery?

Idontbelieveit12 · 26/01/2021 10:22

[quote Bumblebee1980a]@Idontbelieveit12

So it's ok for you to be derogatory about parents sending their children in nursery?

[/quote]
I’m being derogatory towards the parents that I have encountered who are breaking the rules then putting me and my colleagues at risk. We also have two covid denier families. It’s massively hurtful and frustrating that our safety is disregarded by people yet we are good enough to look after their children?

Bumblebee1980a · 26/01/2021 10:35

@Idontbelieveit12

"but you can hug little Johnny while his mum swans around on walks with her friends, and in and out of each other’s cars and houses".

I read the above that you were talking in general
about parents sending their kids into nursery.

I'm not sure how you know exactly what the parents are doing. Maybe you are seeing them chat and are assuming they're in and out of each other's houses and I wouldn't take what preschoolers say as the absolute truth - they're full of imagination.

I do think you should have PPE though. Ours are fully PPE'd up.

pinkpip100 · 26/01/2021 10:49

I wouldn't do anything for minimum wage hence why I furthered my education so I wouldn't be.

Gosh @Bumblebee1980a for someone who desperately wants your child in nursery you really come across as disparaging and completely lacking respect for the people who work in them, caring for and educating the children day in day out, usually for the love of the job rather than the pitiful salary.

I have a degree, and a host of early years qualifications, as do most of my colleagues. We all love working with children and obviously aren't in it for the money!! But that doesn't stop us all being very worried about catching Covid at work, where there is no PPE, no social distancing and plenty of extremely close contact every day. In a room with 30-40 children and 5-6 adults. You seem to be belittling those very real concerns and just telling us all to "get on with it".

In the interest of full disclosure, I am currently not in work because my dc is CEV and the risks just feel too high with the number of children there. But all of my colleagues are there, and all are very worried.

What most early years staff want is for nurseries to be open to KWV only for the time being, enabling class/bubble sizes to be reduced and reducing the risk for everyone. As that is very unlikely to happen, the next best thing is for anyone (like the OP) who feels able to keep their child at home to do just that.

Bumblebee1980a · 26/01/2021 10:51

@pinkpip100

I wouldn't do anything for minimum wage hence why I furthered my education so I wouldn't be.

Gosh @Bumblebee1980a for someone who desperately wants your child in nursery you really come across as disparaging and completely lacking respect for the people who work in them, caring for and educating the children day in day out, usually for the love of the job rather than the pitiful salary.

I have a degree, and a host of early years qualifications, as do most of my colleagues. We all love working with children and obviously aren't in it for the money!! But that doesn't stop us all being very worried about catching Covid at work, where there is no PPE, no social distancing and plenty of extremely close contact every day. In a room with 30-40 children and 5-6 adults. You seem to be belittling those very real concerns and just telling us all to "get on with it".

In the interest of full disclosure, I am currently not in work because my dc is CEV and the risks just feel too high with the number of children there. But all of my colleagues are there, and all are very worried.

What most early years staff want is for nurseries to be open to KWV only for the time being, enabling class/bubble sizes to be reduced and reducing the risk for everyone. As that is very unlikely to happen, the next best thing is for anyone (like the OP) who feels able to keep their child at home to do just that.

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