Would you chose the pfizer or oxford vaccine?

[candle18]

I had mine yesterday as I’m a health care worker. I had a choice of 2 locations and the one I went to did the pfizer vaccine as it was in a hospital and had freezer storage. If I had picked the other location I would have got the Oxford one.

Didn’t know this before I booked which is just as well as I would have ended up researching it for ages, but just out of curiosity would you have chosen one over the other?

I don’t care I would take either!! It will be months till I get mine, 59 and no health problems, I will be luck if Get it before I hit 60 in June!!

Oxford but only because I can’t have the other one as I have had episodes of anaphylaxis and carry and epi pen

Oxford for several reasons, including more complete data through the testing of asymptomatic trial participants and it being cheaper to produce and easier to store.

@FloraFocus

I'd be glad of either!

The Oxford one without a doubt.

After one jab it has 70% efficacy and after two jabs twelve weeks apart it has 90% efficacy.

@CrackOpenTheGin

How effective is the oxford one with the 12 week schedule? Does anyone know?

On 30 December they announced that Oxford was 90% effective with the 12 week schedule.

Neither

Either - got the Pfizer one yesterday.

Oxford given the choice, because I'm proud it was made in Britain.

Fucking hell. I wish deletion wasn’t a thing and we could post freely.
Thick as !

I thought the oxford vaccine was 90% with the accidental half dosing schedule which we aren’t using. Is there actually any published research about the 12 week 90% data? I’ve looked but can’t find any apart from an oxford bloke saying that.

The oxford:

It works better with the current 12 week delay. In fact the team that designed it recommends 12 weeks delay is better. Whereas Pfizer have made disapproving statements.

Pfizer changed the efficiency of their vaccine after Moderna announced a higher one. That is rather iffy.

Oxford is made using existing technology. That is know and trusted. Pfizer is made using new technology.

The data shows oxford to be super effective at stopping seriously illness. If you do still manage to contact virus. I haven't seen anything yet that states Pfizer will do that.

I don't have any allergies but the oxford is safer for those that do. So I figure there is less likely to be any serious unexpected reaction.

@CrackOpenTheGin

I thought the oxford vaccine was 90% with the accidental half dosing schedule which we aren’t using. Is there actually any published research about the 12 week 90% data? I’ve looked but can’t find any apart from an oxford bloke saying that.

I have seen something that says oxford has a better efficiency after 12 weeks too. Think it was further research show after approval or something. I can't remember.

The people saying neither - can I ask why you don’t want it?

Oxford one as I read lots of people died after having Pfizer one in Denmark. All over 80 and frail but not read any deaths after Oxford one.

Denmark? Do you mean Norway, where they have been immunising everyone on death's door and then some have died following the shot?

They numbers who have died don't boot the deaths from correlation to causation but, to be careful, they are checking to make sure that the work required to mount an immune response isn't too much for people so very frail.

@CrackOpenTheGin

I thought the oxford vaccine was 90% with the accidental half dosing schedule which we aren’t using. Is there actually any published research about the 12 week 90% data? I’ve looked but can’t find any apart from an oxford bloke saying that.

That’s all I’ve seen as well. I would like to read the research on the 12 week schedule. It just concerns me after all the hoo ha of ‘no steps are missed’ etc. that we are rushing this at the last hurdle and it may all go horrible wrong.

seems appropriate

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Christ is this another thing I have to hastily gen up on to pretend I can make an expert decision on?!? Can't I just get what I'm given??

I would be happy to have either, but I think I can only have the oxford one as I have an allergy severe enough to need an epipen.

I can't see how it's relative at all supportivemyarse. I have seen one appeal made to nationalism when others have said they'd prefer the Oxford. Can you see one?

I haven't seen one

@FourTeaFallOut

I can't see how it's relative at all supportivemyarse. I have seen one appeal made to nationalism when others have said they'd prefer the Oxford. Can you see one?

relative? do you mean relevant?

its a joke. lighten up.

fine, relevant.

When Paul Williams decided to contact the press to say that some of his elderly patients had expressed a preference for the 'english one' there were plenty of threads which were flooded with HCPs who also said they had concerns about the Pfizer vaccine.

But because these patients were old and northern the assumption was made - and published - that this stemmed from a little Englander complex.

I'd happily have either Oxford or the Pfizer but I think it's a snakes argument to make assumptions about the reasons people make decisions the way that they do and then chastise them based on nothing more than that assumption. Your clip is more of the same. It's ride and lazy.

Rude

@FourTeaFallOut well that's me told . are you always this uptight? I think you are the one who is rude so we can agree on that I suppose.

its been a difficult, frustrating and tragic year (I have lost a couple of family and friends to Covid too) but its important to retain a sense of humour, otherwise what is the point of living anyway? to twitch our curtains at what others are/aren't doing, point the finger and take our frustrations out at anonymous people on the internet? whatever. you have a good day, keyboard warrior.

Yeah, you know, I am more uptight than usual. I think, after Brexit and coronavirus, or more particularly the way that people engaged in the debates around the two so that they have come to paint the oppositional other as everything they hate about the world, I have had my fill of this divisive tactic. It could be homeschooling as well though, could be mostly that.