Why can't people just think of others!

[gooseygander88]

Why can't people just follow the guidance and stay at home?
Seen it too much in the news about busy beaches, towns etc.
The sooner everyone does as they are told the quicker we will be out of this!
Trust me I'd love to take my family on an outing to the beach, could quite easily 'exercise' and go for a walk there but putting my family at risk is the last thing on my mind!
I'm protecting mine - please everyone protect yours too!

Apologies purpledaisies, I misunderstood your post

Keep in mind the media have to create stories - a busy appearing beach or street gets people clicking. It’s easy to create angles that make places look busier than they are.

Really? I doubt many people are travelling miles to the beach in this weather! In August maybe, but in zero degrees? ⛄

@HermannlovesPauline

Oh ffs - “the sooner everyone obeys the sooner we’re out of it” comments are ridiculous!

Not true at all.

People are getting it in workplaces, care homes, schools, care homes and hospitals. COVID will not just suddenly disappear if we all stay home

And will STILL be there when we've all behaved well enough to have earned back the privilege of leaving our houses again.

My MIL has been moved to a different hospital. This one is a fair distance away, and in actual fact within a different local authority. We have to head towards the coast to get there. Yesterday dh and I had to drive out to drop a phone off for her, if we hadn't been on a schedule we would have driven back along the coast road and possibly even had a stop off.

If you are wondering why we both went - ds was at his autism group and this was an hour to just be the two of us.

Life isn't as simple as staying at home.

Sadly some people are incapable of thinking of others.

Ultimately people will, with very few exceptions, but them and theirs first. That is simple human nature. The exceptions tend to be when something is literally happening right in front of their eyes - someone drowning, being attacked type thing. I have no idea why people expect others to put everyone else before themselves without question.

This in a way reminds me of the Friends episode where Phoebe is trying to prove that she can carry out a totally selfless task, she couldn't do it.

Tries and fails to grasp the concept of packed British beaches in January when the temperatures have been below 5⁰C all week

Not exactly lounge around all day, try and find somewhere to set up a deckchair amongst the crowds weather.

As to people resenting their customers being customers, resign. There will be someone else that needs the salary, unless you need that salary yourself and need to accept that those customers keep you in a job.

It is unrealistic that we are all going to go on thinking of others when there is no real end date in sight.

My life hasn’t really changed much under COVID, but for people who live alone and don’t go out to work, what are they supposed to do? The government is talking about still having restrictions next winter. I don’t think people are going to be prepared to live under limitations for so long.

@DirtyDancing @yulelogc I know exactly what you mean. Went to a local Farmers market in the November lockdown, all very well run and lots of space to distance. A woman walked past us and said to her friend "you wouldn't think London was in lockdown would you?" Er well you are here!

Busy beaches? It's been literally fucking freezing.

How do you know people are travelling hours to the beach?

it's seeing people traveling hours to go to the beach that's what annoys me!

Not really relevant but are people really travelling hours in January to go to a beach? Am I the only one thinking a beach in Jan is not worth a drive?

@Meredithgrey1

it's seeing people traveling hours to go to the beach that's what annoys me!

Not really relevant but are people really travelling hours in January to go to a beach? Am I the only one thinking a beach in Jan is not worth a drive?

It’s not worth it. I don’t know anyone driving to beaches

@mum2jakie tell that to the people fined for going to Starbucks.
The rules are not clear but we were told we were staying open for essential workers. I don't work in a high street store by the way.

[quote 2020canfuckitself]@mum2jakie tell that to the people fined for going to Starbucks.
The rules are not clear but we were told we were staying open for essential workers. I don't work in a high street store by the way. [/quote]
They weren't fined for goo to Starbucks. They were fined because they had driven 5 miles to exercise which was outside the state local' guidance. The police have also confirmed that those fines are not enforceable.

There is no distinction in the legislation between essential shops which are allowed to stay open and non-essential shops which can open to key workers . If your shop is allowed to open it can serve everyone who goes to it.

@wanderings

Because we have done. Since March last year. Lost jobs, businesses, socialisation all of it. People are done and quite rightly so. If I get called a granny murderer so be it. Governments across the UK have handled this like containing piss in a colander so can fuck off with their shite. This. In spades. And we were told: "We can turn this virus around in twelve weeks." "Normal by September." "Normalish by Christmas." "It would be inhumane to cancel Christmas." "Schools are safe." Now Saint Boris is stringing us out until Easter, and what will it be then? "Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease be patient, just six more months...."

And you actually believed this? No logic supports this. I'm quite amazed how much effort and money must have been put into this to stop this virus and to develop the vaccines so quickly. The people who volunteered to test the vaccines etc. Honestly, when the first lockdowns happened all around the world, I thought we'd be in deep shit for years.

I'm being honest here, I just feel indifferent to it all now. I've been wading through it all for months without my usual support and feel too burnt out to care. The death toll means nothing to me, I don't know these people, I'm not allowed to spend any meaningful time with people outside the household anyway. I don't feel like I'm part of a wider society living like this. The people I see in the streets and shops when I do go out don't feel real to me anymore.

And yeah I'm no longer convinced by the "if we just follow the rules it will be over quicker" argument anymore.

Unless I have to be literally precise it's more concerning people can't follow the rules.

I've had enough of all this myself and would quite happily travel a couple hours for family day out somewhere but I'm protecting others and my family and staying local.

I'm aware the media can exaggerate and I think that doesn't help any of this which is probs why people aren't respecting the guidance because they probably think why should we follow the rules when others don't.

I also do agree with the many guidance does need to be more clear.

I don’t believe that my family getting into our own vehicle, driving 15 mins to park in a large car park, spending an hour on a beach with approx 10 other people on it before driving straight home contributes to the spread of covid.

That’s why I dont mind doing it.

Thinking of other people gives me no reason not to do that.

Trust me I'd love to take my family on an outing to the beach, could quite easily 'exercise' and go for a walk there but putting my family at risk is the last thing on my mind!
I'm protecting mine - please everyone protect yours too!

As no one in my family is in any way vulnerable to covid then I don't need to protect them, thanks. It really bloody irks me when I see "I'm protecting my family, you should protect yours" bullshit. For lots of families covid is a very minor illness, so everything that they are doing, every sacrifice that they are making is for other people that they don't even know. So those families can go for a walk on the beach if they want ffs!

@MynephewR so you'd quite happily put your family at risk, who then could go out and pass it on to someone else's family who it may not just be mild illness for.

I've had covid and it wasn't pleasant, was very unwell but thankful was able to recover at home. But i could of easily of passed it on to my in laws who are older, my own parents who have underlying health conditions and could be seriously ill.

@gooseygander88 I'm not putting my family at risk! In my house there are two adults (1 late 20's, 1 early 30s), both a healthy weight with no underlying conditions and two young children. The most that we are realistically at risk of is being unwell for a few days, I'm sure we can cope with that. We don't see either set of our middle aged parents, they both live 2 hours away, haven't seen dh's parents at all since the pandemic started, saw mine twice during the summer. DD is not at school, DS doesn't go to nursery or preschool yet. I am furloghed so not working, DH works socially distanced with about 6 colleagues, all of whom are not in any way vulnerable to covid. A walk on the beach, at a good distance from others except perhaps occasionally passing by other people at less than two metres is absolutely no risk at all.

Oh I suppose there is a minute risk that one of us could become seriously ill or die if we get covid but the risk is so tiny that I'm perfectly happy to take it (if going for a walk on a beach is any risk at all). As I am perfectly happy to cross the road, drive a car, walk down the stairs etc. Life is not risk free.

This is from the BBC this morning...

Asked about wearing masks when we leave the house, Prof Whitty says that he would encourage people to wear a mask "and wear it properly over the nose and mouth" when indoors but says that the risk outdoors is only in a crowded space.

"In an open street environment it probably makes little difference," he says.

Sorry, wrong thread!