Tighter restrictions? What else can be "tighter"??

[R2221]

Schools closed, work places closed, nailbars, hairdressers, clothes shops, closed. My high street is dead and a couple of big shops are permanently closing down. We've been totally indoors, going out only to get grocery and exercise.

Oh, gyms are closed, no play dates, birthdays, dinners or even coffee with friends. WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE TO STOP THE SPREAD??? What would "tighter" restrictions mean? To me, next tighter level means no grocery and exercise :(

My local hospital is totally full. I don't understand why.

In Mainland Scotland everything is shut. The only stores open are those that sell food. If you cant sell food, these businesses are stuffed. Only 2 adults are allowed to meet outside socially distanced - yup. Pick your favourite parent to meet! Churches are closed. Schools and nurseries are closed except for key workers. Gyms and indoor activities are closed. Not allowed to travel outwith own council area except for very limited reasons. Currently unrestricted exercise in local area but reckon that will go shortly as while our numbers have now largely stabilised, they aren't coming down. It beggars belief that Bojo just will not shut everything across the country but stands there gawping wondering why numbers are going up 🤦‍♀️ particularly while having banged on about how important it was to get our borders back during the Brexit debacle only for him to not use the bloody power to shut them and introduce an Australian style quarentine for those entering the country! its only going to end in an italian style lockdown if he doesn't get a grip where no one is allowed out without a permit.

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Short version some towns in France introduced mandatory wearing of masks outdoors in certain areas last summer.

Yesterday several neighbours had visitors, not the stand at door variety. One went to a childs birthday. The roads are teeming with cars. There is no let up. Not everyone is going to essential work. Noticed locally a walking group is still meeting up. Until people take accountability for themselves we are just going to keep having these pathetic lockdowns where only some are following the rules or guidelines. I am sick of hearing people justify why they are breaking the rules.

Watching the latest announcements, its looking like Hancock is doing bugger all to tighten restrictions atm. So thats that.

How about we wait for the new lockdown to work as it has been a week only and enforce existing rules rather that keep coming up with new ones.
Closing nurseries and wilko and playgrounds is not going to help at all if people are mixing indoors and they will be doing more of that when absolutely everywhere is closed and there is nothing else to do.
The latest wave started with Christmas mixing, the schools have been closed for a month now, it is not because children are playing outside.

@Jellykat

Watching the latest announcements, its looking like Hancock is doing bugger all to tighten restrictions atm. So thats that.

Good! We've been in lockdown for around a week so how about giving it a chance to work rather than finding more and more restrictions?

Someone on here in another thread said they were working from home last year and now back in the office. I literally do not understand why her employer is making her work in an office unnecessarily as she could obviously work from home. I haven't been in my office nearly a year now. Everyone that can work from home must be made to do so.
Along with shutting down any that's not really essential but pretends to be. Both these would also lower the number of "KW" school places

Last time I went on the Tube in London I would say about 1/3 of people were not wearing masks, most of them with mask around their chin, or hanging from one ear so clearly not exempt. They presumably wear it just to walk past station staff on entrance/exit.

[quote notimagain]Where is "other countries"?I know of many other countries. I don't know of outdoor mask wearing there.

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Oh, some regions of one other country - France with a link to a "Not longer Available" page in French.

Its Chinese whispers time again.

I live in London. I am a key worker and have to work outside of the house. First lockdown roads were dead. This time it’s like a normal day. 45 minutes for an 8 mile journey home!
We live in a very small road where unless you have a drive parking is a pain in the arse, so many different cars coming and going. In fact at least 4 of my neighbours park there cars on the very limited parking we have so there is somewhere to park for when their friends and family visit.
I can’t begin to tell you how angry the sheer selfishness of people makes me. I go to work and go home, I go to the supermarket once a fortnight then a fresh food top up in the small Sainsbury’s. on the other week.
As soon as we get in work clothes are off and in washing machine and straight in the shower to try and avoid any corona being brought in. All my food shopping is wiped down with dettol wipes. Kinda makes you think well what is the point 🤷🏻‍♀️

Thankfully Hancock has said bubbles aren't going anywhere! Good news for those worried

@Thefeep

I’ve no idea but maybe all shops should shut at the weekends. Things are super busy where I live at the weekends. I’ve no idea where everyone is going though 🤷🏼‍♀️

And when do people who work get to shop? Ridiculous suggestion

I know a woman who went to visit different family members over the Christmas period with her husband & 2 kids. They also had visitors to their house. They carried on like the restrictions didn’t apply to them. It really annoyed me. I imagine people doing things like this is having a big impact on the spread of the virus.

How about we wait for the new lockdown to work as it has been a week only and enforce existing rules rather that keep coming up with new ones

Exactly this - we need at least three weeks before we can say things aren't working. We went from tier 2 to tier 4 to lockdown in about 10 days, that isn't very long. And the things people on here are complaining about won't affect infection rates anyway.

@Pyeby

Schools are certainly not closed

Well mine certainly isn’t. I was there from 7.30 to 4.30 today along with my colleagues and plenty of children, several of whom were telling us about all the people they visited over the weekend......

From what i can see, living on the outskirts of a town in the midlands, people are just going about their day as normal.

Children going to school, people going out to work, traffic is very heavy here, post office queue around the block, takeaways open, pet shops open, garden centres, Halfords, B&M, supermarkets, petrol forecourt shops heaving, dentists open, Boots open etc. people are creating massive bubbles so multi-generational mixing.

It's all just too easy for this new super virus to spread.

Close our borders and close them NOW!!
I work at one of the juxtaposed UK border controls in France and can categorically tell you that we have been utterly POWERLESS to stop the influx of passengers traveling to the UK who are admittedly and blatantly flouting the quarantine and lockdown rules.
We have no legal or policy backing to stop them and no direction or support from the policy makers in government.
This talk of enforcing inbound passengers to produce a negative covid test is just that- talk.
We have heard nothing else.
I cannot tell you how frustrating it is letting selfish fuckers flounce into our country when I cannot, in good conscience, see my own mother.

Looks like it will be around enforcement and compliance rather than new restrictions- from briefing. Which is preferable imo

@SleepingStandingUp

Supermarkets likewise shouldn't be selling clothes on what planet are clothes not essential, especially in Winter??

Buy them online? All other clothes shops are shut, unless they sell food or medicine

I think lots of people are just fed up with following the rules this time. Particularly younger people who think, well I'm not seeing my granny and putting her at risk, and I don't care if I get it because I'm young and healthy, so why should I stop seeing my mates.

Every time I am out (key worker) I expect to see empty roads but they are as busy as ever. People walking with friends, chatting in the street outside the coffee shop. I had to stop for petrol yesterday and half the customers in there had no masks on (I know we can't tell if they couldn't wear a mask but it seemed a high proportion and they were all young males).

These people are just plain selfish, unless it directly affects them they don't care.

Because you are one of the few actually following the lockdown rules.

Where is "other countries"? I know of many other countries. I don't know of outdoor mask wearing there.

Portugal if you are anywhere where you come within 2 metres of another person not from your household. We've had it for a while. Everyone complies even though there is no enforcement of mask wearing outdoors. I was in the UK a month ago. The difference in attitudes was startling.

'Tighter' would mean making people actually do what they're supposed to be doing now. The idiots I mean. Surely you see them around every day, whining about their 'liberty'/ 'police state' etc etc?

@Meredithgrey1

Have Morrison’s said what they’ll do if someone just says “I’m exempt”? I don’t see really how this policy change is much of a change at all, if people who aren’t really exempt have been happy breaking the law for 6 months will this announcement make any difference? The announcement seems more for publicity and being seen to be doing something.

And I’m coming at this from the view of hoping people don’t still get allowed in, it must be awful to be genuinely exempt.

Obviously a typo from me at the end there. I hope people are allowed in, it’s not the fault of the genuinely exempt that people take the piss.

Can't seem to quote the post, but nobody should need to go to the shop every single day. They should maybe think out their shopping better