Tighter restrictions? What else can be "tighter"??

[R2221]

Schools closed, work places closed, nailbars, hairdressers, clothes shops, closed. My high street is dead and a couple of big shops are permanently closing down. We've been totally indoors, going out only to get grocery and exercise.

Oh, gyms are closed, no play dates, birthdays, dinners or even coffee with friends. WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE TO STOP THE SPREAD??? What would "tighter" restrictions mean? To me, next tighter level means no grocery and exercise :(

My local hospital is totally full. I don't understand why.

@Jellykat

You do realise that none of us are getting out of here alive don't you??

Simple all businesses to close other then hospitals and the likes of asda, sainsbury's, tesco ect reduced bus service ect

And don't forget these are deaths WITH COVID not OF COVID. Sadly some of these people are already unwell with other conditions.
Here we go....
Fuck me, it's never ending.

@HOS8595 Question was " What would "tighter" restrictions mean? "

Doesn't mean people want the suggestions they've mentioned to actually happen.

And trust me, I can afford both Amazon and Takeaways thank you very much. And yes, I know Amazon delivers food, we buy food from them sometimes. Shock horror.

However, I do think that this is the type of tighter restriction that will be coming sadly.

@HazeyJaneII

And don't forget these are deaths WITH COVID not OF COVID. Sadly some of these people are already unwell with other conditions. Here we go.... Fuck me, it's never ending.

No, you're no longer allowed to point out obvious truths, or you get labelled.

This is madness.

“Workplaces that are open need to be doing things right. "Covid safety" where I work was piss poor before last Tuesday (I've not been in the office since).”

We are nhs, and some of our staff are not great at mask wearing when not patient facing. You have staff from all different areas of the hospital sharing kitchen facilities and toilets etc. Some of our staff are doing overtime on covid wards at weekends, and then wander round our department with masks on their chins, noses out and come up and ask you something....

I know people who have died from covid and have CEV loved ones so I fully get how serious this situation is but cannot believe some posts on this thread.

Obviously things like increased wfh would help but I despair of how many people want to introduce more restrictions just for the fuck of it. Limiting exercise to once a day or saying you can’t drive to it will make naff all difference.

Also remember measures have a knock on effect. For example, close the nurseries and people will use grandparents for childcare, which won’t help the NHS.stop people going for a walk with someone outdoors and plenty of people will just meet indoors. It isn’t March anymore, and you’re dealing with a very different population psychologically.

Not to mention the country was on its knees financially and economically before this new strain/lockdown - it’s easy to say let’s just completely shut factories/construction/everything and grind the economy to even more of a halt, but that’s a very short term view. I really think in a years time when the reality of the long term impact of these measures starts to be felt, people will wish they hadn’t been so trigger happy.

Let’s just wait and see if these restrictions plus the vaccination programmes helps before clamouring to remove every last scrap of society.

Totally agree HOS8595, I am just answering the OP - I don't for one minute want any more restrictions and I certainly want my cleaner to be able to continue to come. HoweverI do think that some companies are beiing very unfair dragging staff in that could work from home.

@Dddccc

Simple all businesses to close other then hospitals and the likes of asda, sainsbury's, tesco ect reduced bus service ect

How are people paying their bills then ....

Keeping teenagers in so they dont hang around in groups.

Wind your neck in MrsMomoa and stop taking the piss eh?

Make sure people are self isolating who should be and enforce mask wearing?
I'm self isolating, technically my housemates should be too, one is in and out of the house all day, one went to her friend's for the day, the other was staying at his girlfriend's for two nights.
Meanwhile I have a hacking cough and can't stop yawning (even though I'm not tired) so I strongly suspect I've got it, work in a supermarket (customers don't wear masks properly and if you ask the ones wearing them to pull them up properly you get excuse after excuse why they can't.)
Oh, and one of my housemates told me I shouldn't be using the kitchen (although technically I can as long as I wear a mask/wipe down surfaces and no one else is in there.) And yet I have to walk up to the Post Office tomorrow to drop off my test.

And yet I have to walk up to the Post Office tomorrow to drop off my test

My mum's test was picked up? Have they stopped doing this?

Front page of the Telegraph tomorrow.
Headline Ministers consider tightening lockdown.

Key points:
People from different households exercising together, top of the list of things under consideration as its being used as an excuse for people to go for a coffee in the park.
Introduction of wearing masks in offices
A focus on supermarkets after fears some had relaxe the rules putting customers at risk (they will be reminded about one way systems, customers wearing masks and customers properly distancing)
Expanding rules on mask wearing to outdoor queues

Front Page of the Times
Shops told to get tough on the Covid rule breakers

Shops face being legally required to enforce mask wearing
Ensuring that limits on people in store are carried out

Front Page of the Guardian
Stricter rules could be on the way as mass vaccination centres open

This doesn't say what is rumoured to be top of the list - only that Hancock refused to rule tighter restrictions out.

[quote Lexilooo]@greenlandthemovie

The curfew suggestions seem to be coming from posters here not any powers that be though.

Seriously don't they realise that some of us are still working? I have worked throughout from home not seeing a soul. The only time I leave the house is in the evening to get some exercise and do some shopping. Everywhere is deserted. The shops are quiet, the roads are quiet I see no one. What am I supposed to do with a curfew, never leave home? Or try to get to the shop on my lunch break when it is crazy busy?

A curfew is a fucking dumbass idea proposed purely by people who get some sick pleasure from restricting other people's lives. It has no benefit in terms of stopping the virus and will actually make it spread more. [/quote]
Oh same here. But I think the government are just scratching around for any more ideas that they haven't tried yet that will make them look even better and therefore even more potentially electable in the future, so they can't be blamed for deaths.

To be fair, any British Government will be blamed for deaths (like everything else) and it would turn into a media feeding frenzy any other way.

They probably won't go for a curfew or even a permit system to be out because there would be too much public outcry against it, therefore self defeating. They will probably concentrate on banning overnight stays and outdoor exercise instead.

No idea where I read or heard it - but registering support bubbles. Would be a bit of a deterrent to people changing them/having multiples/not entitled and would help identify people who aren’t using them correctly (eg socialising with childcare bubbles ) ... not ideal but better than them being taken away entirely .

It feels like Glasgow has been in lockdown forever.

If they ban support bubbles for people that live alone I can forsee a lot of suicides/severe MH problems. Presumably most of those suggesting it live with DH/DO/DC. I thought so.

@RedToothBrush

Front page of the Telegraph tomorrow. Headline Ministers consider tightening lockdown.

Key points:
People from different households exercising together, top of the list of things under consideration as its being used as an excuse for people to go for a coffee in the park.
Introduction of wearing masks in offices
A focus on supermarkets after fears some had relaxe the rules putting customers at risk (they will be reminded about one way systems, customers wearing masks and customers properly distancing)
Expanding rules on mask wearing to outdoor queues

Front Page of the Times
Shops told to get tough on the Covid rule breakers

Shops face being legally required to enforce mask wearing
Ensuring that limits on people in store are carried out

Front Page of the Guardian
Stricter rules could be on the way as mass vaccination centres open

This doesn't say what is rumoured to be top of the list - only that Hancock refused to rule tighter restrictions out.

Does anyone else think the government leak potential ideas to the newspapers to sound out public opinion on future measures?

Jellykat

Wind your neck in MrsMomoa and stop taking the piss eh?

How am I taking the piss?
I am merely pointing out a fact.
An undisputed fact.
Care to disagree with that fact?

Btw NONE of them are suggesting that support bubbles going are being considered to go.

“Make sure people are self isolating who should be and enforce mask wearing? “

This ^

A friend is a gp nurse, she said she has had to phone patients who are confirmed covid positive. She said many are out when she calls and answer their phones outside. One was in a supermarket. When she pulled them up on why they were out, they said “well I had to get some food in”.

Cannot believe all this clamour for tighter lockdown, give this one a chance, we haven’t even been in it for a week yet, legally only about 5 days!
ZOE app showing cases start to drop so let’s just wait and see, of course the numbers won’t be plummeting just yet as the current cases still probably infected before lockdown

@HarryLimeFoxtrot

Thewinterofdiscontent

^I think people forget that EVERYTHING used to shut on Sundays and everywhere outside of a big town would have half day closing. Even supermarkets closed at 6pm.
This was 70’s and 80’s.^

So more restrictive than even lockdown has been. Yet apparently no Costa means all the joy from life will be gone.

Your point is utterly irrelevant to current life.

In the 70’s and 80’s I went to my grandparents house for dinner every Sunday with my family. I went to our neighbours house after church for coffee.

Ok so if lockdown meant no shops on Sundays, after 6pm or after 12pm on Thursdays, people would accept that if they could go round to any other bubble for Sunday lunch ?
Nah I don’t think so. Coffee is essential, buying stuff immediately you want it is essential and having the choice of 100’s of take always is essential.

I don’t care either way. I go to work, meet my friends there. Go out for a walk and wave to my friends round town, watch telly, do my online exercise, drink a bit of wine and have a lovely dinner. Not sure what I’m missing but I guess we’re all different.

"They will probably concentrate on banning overnight stays and outdoor exercise instead."

Ah - what happened to encouraging people to reduce BMI to reduce their risk if they caught corona? (I admit overnight stays don't have much to do with that, but exercise?) Is there any evidence that outdoor exercise spreads the virus - I appreciate that it could if it's aerosol spread, but am not sure if any studies have been done on this? (I realise you weren't advocating this by the way, just stating it's a possibility)