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Here we go again Woman arrested for sitting on a bench.

394 replies

MercyBooth · 10/01/2021 00:53

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130133/Police-told-fine-Covid-rule-breakers-just-ONE-verbal-warning.html

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ThatIsNotMyUsername · 10/01/2021 10:49

They don’t know what they are doing (by the looks of it) and yes, I would put in a complaint.

Same4Walls · 10/01/2021 10:49

V different to being targeted and accused of law breaking for sitting on a bench.

Exactly. It's ok to not be as polite as you would normally be if you are being accused by multiple officers of breaking a law which isn't actually a law. I would probably start off being polite but after being repeatedly told I had to move or that I was being unlawful I would probably become a little frustrated and irritable. Although it's all pure speculation of course as we have no idea how polite this women was.

Maverickess · 10/01/2021 10:55

I'm torn about this. On one hand it seems heavy handed and making an example of one or two people. Coming down hard on people for what on the face of it is harmless. It seems like a slippery slope and controlling through fear.
On the other hand, there are a lot of people who are just not doing what they should because they just don't want to, and seem to want to make a point, rather than seeing the bigger picture.
I work in a popular seaside town, and it's really busy at the moment, queues for coffee shops and fish and chips all over the pavements, people congregating on the promenade in groups, traveling on public transport to get there.
Mixing like that is what is spreading the virus, what's putting the NHS under increasing pressure, and why we have lockdown again, why schools are closed, why jobs and businesses are lost or at risk.

We need some enforcement where I am, a presence at least because there's nothing at the moment and people just aren't following the guidelines, laws, rules, whatever they are termed, and have lost sight of the reasons they're there in the first place, some people are so caught up in fighting 'the system' I think they've forgotten that there's this threat out there that was always going to negatively affect everyone in some way, no matter what response we had from the government.
To be honest, although I'm uncomfortable with these particular reports of the policing of the covid rules, I think we're maybe only hearing of these cases because they are heavy handed. There's been over 300 fines issued in my local force area, only 1 has been in local press/on Facebook because it was imo, heavy handed and a bit over zealous. At least some of the others may be totally justified, but we're not hearing about that because they're not sensational enough.

itsgettingweird · 10/01/2021 10:57

This woman who happened to be sitting on a bench looks like she's at Bournemouth beach?

So as we have no further details is there any chance she was one of the people who had travelled from as far as Bognor to protest on the pier?

Don't believe every 10 seconds of a situation you see is what you see or as how you see it.

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 10/01/2021 11:45

Ok so let's presume she broke a law, threatening behaviour, whatever, this does not mean that it is acceptable to just arrest people for sitting on a bench as many posters on here would like to see happen.

If she kicked off it’s likely she was arrested for kicking off.

lockeddownandcrazy · 10/01/2021 11:48

@LaurieFairyCake

She wasn't arrested for 'sitting on a bench' Hmm

She was sitting on the bench

Told/advised to go home

She refused/argued with the officers

THEN she was arrested

Exactly - but people on here just want to police bash so why let the facts get in the way. She could have just complied but decided not to.
Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 10/01/2021 11:50

So as we have no further details is there any chance she was one of the people who had travelled from as far as Bognor to protest on the pier?

Could be.

I’m sure if I travelled 70 miles out of my area and sat on a park bench I would be breaking the rules.
If I then kicked of when questioned, I might be arrested too.
There are any number of possibilities.
The papers only print half the story most of the time.

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 10/01/2021 11:55

‘Off’

itsgettingweird · 10/01/2021 12:02

@Goodbye2020Hello2021

So as we have no further details is there any chance she was one of the people who had travelled from as far as Bognor to protest on the pier?

Could be.

I’m sure if I travelled 70 miles out of my area and sat on a park bench I would be breaking the rules.
If I then kicked of when questioned, I might be arrested too.
There are any number of possibilities.
The papers only print half the story most of the time.

Ahhh a fellow realist Smile

I've decided once we come out of this and get kids back to school we need education to focus more on

A) critical thinking and evaluation - that a clip on SM/ media article only shows you what the person wants you to see. It's not the whole story

B) statistics - I swear hard the issue with compliance is people genuinely don't understand you need to look at all statistics and not just the one (again) that's used to show you what the person presenting what's you to see.

TonMoulin · 10/01/2021 12:24

These stories are the reason why. I (like prob many others) don’t dare going out for a bit of fresh air

I have ME can’t walk far wo having to stop and sit down.

I’m not happy at the idea of being surrounded by Police for sitting down nor at the idea of giving my details (what for? To be told I’m a repeat offender for daring having a bit of fresh air?)
All that for something that is GUIDANCE not LAW

MintyCedric · 10/01/2021 12:34

My best mate and I have met up twice for walks this weeks (single adult households) and as we go early we take a flask of coffee and a couple of tin mugs and find a bench for a quick warm up.

Feels like we're on borrowed time.

User158340 · 10/01/2021 12:46

@Nonamealoud

This is very scary what is it coming to when you can't sit down on a bench for a few min without being arrested
The police pick on easy targets, this is the problem.
User158340 · 10/01/2021 12:49

@TonMoulin

These stories are the reason why. I (like prob many others) don’t dare going out for a bit of fresh air

I have ME can’t walk far wo having to stop and sit down.

I’m not happy at the idea of being surrounded by Police for sitting down nor at the idea of giving my details (what for? To be told I’m a repeat offender for daring having a bit of fresh air?)
All that for something that is GUIDANCE not LAW

There needs to be sense applied. You're not going to get Covid from sitting down on a bench by yourself, but you might get it from being squared up to by police officers harassing you for it.

Yobs have been pissing about in my local town centre for weeks, often in groups, particularly since the end of term and the police are nowhere.

Cam77 · 10/01/2021 12:50

We’re in the middle of a pandemic which is killing people, ruining people’s livelihoods and leaving people broke. These are not normal times. If a police officer asks you to move just move FFS. Get some perspective and lose the But Mah Freedom hyperbole bullshit. This isn’t 1984 or Braveheart it’s just a massively shit year.

DrDetriment · 10/01/2021 12:51

I go for a long walk every day but due to some old injuries I sometimes have to sit down for 5 minutes while I'm out. I would not be happy being questioned by police in that scenario. It's none of their business why I need to sit down and I don't wish to share my medical history with strangers when I'm not breaking any laws.

lockeddownandcrazy · 10/01/2021 12:52

@Cam77

We’re in the middle of a pandemic which is killing people, ruining people’s livelihoods and leaving people broke. These are not normal times. If a police officer asks you to move just move FFS. Get some perspective and lose the But Mah Freedom hyperbole bullshit. This isn’t 1984 or Braveheart it’s just a massively shit year.
Perfect :-)
Funkypolar · 10/01/2021 12:52

The obesity levels and related diseases are going to be interesting after this.

Soubriquet · 10/01/2021 12:57

this shows how irate she was getting

RickiTarr · 10/01/2021 12:58

@Funkypolar

The obesity levels and related diseases are going to be interesting after this.
Sitting on benches is not exercise. Exercise is allowed. If you need to sit on a bench, that will be allowed. If you have an illness or disability, and need to rest on a bench, you can tell the police that and they will be sensible. I have a disability and am going out for exercise and have no fear that my use of benches will get me into trouble.

However, the middle of pandemic is really not the time to organise a meeting to demonstrate for your rights to sit on benches and suchlike when you don’t need to.

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 10/01/2021 12:59

There needs to be sense applied. You're not going to get Covid from sitting down on a bench by yourself, but you might get it from being squared up to by police officers harassing you for it.

The police ‘square up’ to and ‘harass’ people sitting on benches do they? Or do they ask approach people out and about during lockdown, ask legitimate questions and react if they get an aggressive response?

Funkypolar · 10/01/2021 13:03

When I got mugged at knifepoint, the police didn’t even come out, I just got a crime reference number as they were too busy. Interesting they can walk around in groups and harass people on benches though.

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 10/01/2021 13:14

When I got mugged at knifepoint, the police didn’t even come out, I just got a crime reference number as they were too busy. Interesting they can walk around in groups and harass people on benches though.

That’s bad.
To be fair though, the police patrolling parks are likely to be PCSOs.

Funkypolar · 10/01/2021 13:19

When I lived in London in a “naice” area people were regularly stabbed. Including on my street.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/02/police-officer-london-lost-control-streets-knife-crime-cuts

“ the borough I am stationed in – much like other boroughs – where there is a population of about 250,000 people, there are on average 10 police officers for the entire area to respond to emergency calls per shift. Only two or three of them can drive on blue lights. Crucially, very few staff carry Tasers. With a big incident, such as a stabbing, it’s not unusual to have all of those 10 officers at one crime scene, meaning there is no one else to attend further 999 calls.”

That’s why I’m not sure how officers have the manpower to stop people on a walk or sitting on a bench.

“ The 20,000 frontline cuts don’t even begin to cover the reality. Theresa May also sanctioned cuts to civilian staff, ambulance services, crisis teams, call handlers and the people we rely on for intelligence – such as knowing if someone has committed previous crimes, whether they involved a weapon and therefore how prepared we should be. Our duties are being stretched beyond our capabilities to include non-criminal matters regarding mental health and social services, because cuts have debilitated those sectors too.”

annevonkleve · 10/01/2021 13:22

@trevorandsimon

What is she had the virus and then sat on the bench? The virus can stay live on objects. The next person sits there and picks up the virus and the next etc.
What? You don't really believe that do you? If you do, please read something about the virus and educate yourself before you spread any more misinformation.

In the meantime: YOU CANNOT GET COVID BY SITTING ON A PARK BENCH.

And if you are out for exercise you are allowed to stop. You don't have to keep moving the entire time. It's perfectly acceptable to stop for a short time for a rest - either standing or sitting, or eg if you are running to stop and walk for a bit.

StillWeRise · 10/01/2021 13:23

@RickiTarr

The headline is about only one verbal warning being given now, that’s the policy.

The policy is not the women will be arrested for sitting on benches.

The woman was not arrested simply for sitting on a bench. Presumably she was arrested for sitting on a bench despite a verbal warning.

It really isn’t the right year to argue the toss with the police or to expect being middle aged and middle class to protect you from arrest. The black young men of Brixton have been getting this treatment for decades. I’m sure the white fifty somethings of Bournemouth will live to fight another day. 🙄

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