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Why don't students respect the stay home message?

283 replies

Propsneeded · 09/01/2021 23:17

Simple really. Universities are not open for the vast majority unless veterinary etc.....yet many are turning up already...

Falmouth 200 students back despite University not open....

Why don't they follow guidelines...

Aibu they can do what they like
Yanbu they should follow the guidelines and stay at home

OP posts:
Lulu1919 · 10/01/2021 08:51

They are paying rent
Often have part time jobs near their uni ...my niece works in Tesco four shifts a week

JufusMum · 10/01/2021 08:54

My daughter is back because she has to get a job as her minimum loan does not cover her rent and she is getting into debt putting her rent and food on a credit card.
Good enough for you OP?

Changi · 10/01/2021 08:58

Anybody bored with the endless attacks on old people yet?

jasjas1973 · 10/01/2021 09:01

@Propsneeded

My DD has gone back to her digs, otherwise she is house away from her placement.
All the others have returned, some have their BF's in too, during the last LD and since, they ve been manning testing centres, working in social care, placements in hospitals, working in food banks.

Meanwhile the section of society complaining the most about students have had Eat out to help out, going abroad on hols, visiting the UKs holiday hot spots and now are going to garden centres and viewing property, in between visiting DFS, having a new kitchen fitted & the garden re done.

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FionaMumsnet · 10/01/2021 09:03

We're just moving this over to the Coronavirus topic.

SecretSpAD · 10/01/2021 09:03

Because they may have all their books and other equipment that they need to do their work in their student flat?

Students have been given a rough deal. They are paying full tuition fees and rent and not getting the support and education that they are paying for.

If people want to complain about people coming here to Cornwall, then concentrate on the second home owners - not students who live here.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 10/01/2021 09:04

because they live there?

Exactly

Anybody bored of the endless attacks on young people yet, whilst they're simultaneously expected to pay for this government's and older generation's shit?

Yes, I am. I've even read on here young people should be grateful because everything is being sacrificed for them.

Hahahahahaha

SecretSpAD · 10/01/2021 09:05

Anybody bored of the endless attacks on young people yet, whilst they're simultaneously expected to pay for this government's and older generation's shit?

Can't we discuss the impact on students without disgusting comments about older age groups?

I'm 50. I'm paying for this now as well.

Kazzyhoward · 10/01/2021 09:05

@rookiemere

This is entirely of the government and universities making. They lied to students at the start of the academic year so that it appeared that most courses would have an in person as well as online element. Students paid for their accommodation and cannot get a refund.

They were then blamed for going to that accommodation and causing coronavirus figures to rise and now appear to be being blamed again for going back to their primary residence.

Nail on the head.
JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 10/01/2021 09:06

I think you also come from a position of extreme privilege if you think everyone has a cushy 4 bed detached in Surrey with wealthy parents ready to welcome them back with open arms and hot dinners. Many will have left home after abusive childhoods and expected never to return.

Covidcovid · 10/01/2021 09:10

Some have jobs
Some don’t have study space, their own bedroom at the family home. Or crap internet.
Some need to be near the uni library for books or a computer, the libraries are still open

BatleyTownswomensGuild · 10/01/2021 09:10

I work in HE. Not all students have the luxury of going home. We have a few hundred who have stayed on campus throughout - mostly overseas students, PhD students and care leavers.

FirstOfficerDouglas · 10/01/2021 09:35

@SchnitzelVonCrummsTum excellent post.
@CakeRequired absolutely - no single group of people is responsible - All groups have rule breakers and all groups have people in them who get ill in spite of doing everything right.

The overwhelming majority of posters on this thread are in support of students and young people which is probably why it hasn;t been taken down for ageism.

Underadesk · 10/01/2021 09:35

Sorry, haven’t rtwft, but even for students who have had safe homes to return too, courses with placements/ work that can’t be done online had to return. Ie students doing health and medicine courses, certain lab courses (ie those who process tests) social care- also known as the critical/essential workers when they qualify (and are helping out now on just their student loans)
Maybe that needs publishing to make sure that the people moaning (largely those 50+) can agree that these are acceptable reasons- they can even clap for them now 🙄

SecretSpAD · 10/01/2021 09:36

Anybody bored with the endless attacks on old people yet?

Yes. My nearly 80 year old father has already paid shed loads of tax which has been used to pay for the health service and education for these young people. He has contributed to society and continues to do so. Just because he is elderly it doesn't mean that he is not as important as my 14 year old.

My husband and I started our careers paying for the Second World War.

This is not the only generation that is saddled with national debt, or have suffered economic collapse.

mopphead · 10/01/2021 09:39

I also have to agree with this... it's because they live there. And also, becase the U turn on them not going back came late, and perhaps lots of families cannot / don't want to accommodate a whole extra unexpected adult.

mumsneedwine · 10/01/2021 09:39

Lots of students back as they are on courses that need them to be. Medicine being one. These 'students' will be the doctors looking after you in a few years and many have been working as HCAs on COVID wards and are now giving the vaccines. Not the student experience they expected (or are paying a fortune for), but they are doing their bit. A thank you might be nice, not a moan.
Nurses, midwifes etc are in same position.

karenhuff · 10/01/2021 09:42

they are bloody partying! not ok

BrigitsBigKnickers · 10/01/2021 09:42

My nephew hasn't gone back to uni but the internet is so shit where he lives that he can't actually access his course online. So he is paying for accommodation that he can't live in and tuition fees for a course he can't access- and he will be paying off the loan until he is in his 40s! What an absolute crock of shit.

Schoolchoicesucks · 10/01/2021 10:01

2,000 students stayed over the holidays at the University I work at.

Some of these are now expected to leave as the teaching will all be online. But others will return. They are allowed to, some won't have suitable conditions to work from their family homes.

They will have to take 2 lateral flow tests on return (3 days apart) and then another test before accessing any of the campus facilities each time (eg library, study space, rehearsal rooms).

BooBahBoo · 10/01/2021 10:06

@karenhuff

So are the ones down the road in your housing estate, and what? House parties and gatherings aren't limited to students, you know Hmm.

Students may well like a drink but they can survive without it, you know. Yes, some might be "breaking" the rules, but so are plenty of others. Plenty of middle aged adults will have said "fuck this" to the restrictions over Christmas and all piled to the MIL's house for lunch.

It's laughable. A lot of these supposedly feral, alcoholic students will be doing placements in hospital, potentially helping save your life, but make sure you let your student nurse what you think of her and decline treatment when you need it. I'm sure she'll be delighted with a less stressful shift and will be able to skip out early and grab a pack of cans from Asda on the way home for her 18h boozing binge Biscuit

Abraxan · 10/01/2021 10:09

18y Dd is back at university.
She has face to face sessions twice a week.
She is living alone in a flat as her flat mates left in October and didn't return. She has bubbled with the flat below so has social contact daily. They are obviously meeting up, drinking and enjoying themselves - all fine as they are a bubble and allowed to do so. The flat below has a mix of students but all are having at least one face to face a week due to their courses.

Their halls are privately owned so there is no reduction for the rent. It's already paid up in full for the term.

And tbh they can have a much nicer time there bubbled together having fun then them being stuck home with parents and not seeing anyone their own age.

Abraxan · 10/01/2021 10:11

And yes, dd and her friends all had pcr covid tests before returning, as advised by their universities. They all came back negative. They also have the two quick tests before coming home in December, again all were negative.

Abraxan · 10/01/2021 10:15

You see them in and out of each others houses all time they don't follow distancing outside either.

If you stared into,DD's flat long enough you'd see this. What you. I gut not see if that dd is living alone. Her flat mates haven't been there since October. Surely no one expects an 18y, away from home for the first time, to live isolated indefinitely. She's done what she has been allowed to,do and made a bubble with another flat. But the flat below she is bubbled with houses 9 students, though only 7 are back, and she mixes regularly with 5 of them.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 10/01/2021 10:16

As the OP has said they are being unreasonable I’ll leave it there

But a poster upthread who teaches at a uni said she found this thread depressing reading

I dont, because apart from the OP and one other poster (i may have missed one) everyone else has supported the few returning students and given valid reasons for their return...i think thats pretty good