Why don't students respect the stay home message?

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Simple really. Universities are not open for the vast majority unless veterinary etc.....yet many are turning up already...

Falmouth 200 students back despite University not open....

Why don't they follow guidelines...

Aibu they can do what they like
Yanbu they should follow the guidelines and stay at home

The list of courses that are exempt is quite long. I'm a student nurse, we are allowed face to face and I am in a cohort of 290. The September intake was around 400. That's just one course. But yes, rent, jobs, belongings bring at uni, having exams etc etc

All of the cars are back. You see them in and out of each others houses all time they don't follow distancing outside either.

Do you spend your entire time curtain twitching or something? Get a life.

No I just live in a student area and walk around @familyofaliens engage your brain before you post.

@DimidDavilby

No I just live in a student area and walk around *@familyofaliens* engage your brain before you post.

Your post makes no sense.

You sound like a tedious busybody.

Right. My post makes complete sense, but if you don't understand it don't worry yourself.

During the first lockdown I stayed as my accommodation providers were total arseholes and demanded the full rent, so I thought sod it and made the most of an empty flat. Uni also closed fully within three days and the supposed 'online lectures' were crap, apparently the lecture slides were the full content but they continually uploaded the ones with bullet points instead, whilst recorded lectures constantly buffered. I gave up with them in the end and from what I've heard it's only gotten worse now. I'm lucky that I graduated last year but even in those final few months there was a huge impact on how my grade turned out. And yet, we were (and still are) expected to pay the full amount for sub standard education, plus god knows how much more for rent, it's ridiculous!

Maybe now they've moved out they don't have a bedroom at home anymore, it's ok to make do for a couple of weeks over Christmas but would you want to sleep on the couch for at least 2 months and then have to sit and remotely learn all day, I wouldn't.
They might have brothers and sisters/parents working from home and no quiet space that isn't being used in the day to sit and do classes online...... actually there's loads of reasons they might be back in uni try not to be so judgmental.

I calling GF on this one, given the lack of response to the many reasonable answers given.

*I'm.

So OP, now you have heard a wide range of reasons and circumstance, do YOU think YABU?

DD wanted to see her boyfriend.
She wasn't offered a refund if she left halls.

Who would pay for a rent rebate?

I work in the library at a fairly small uni and during this lockdown we’ve been averaging around 150 in the building at one time. Last term (Sept-Dec) we’d generally have 4-500 at peak times, for context. That’s when nearly all students were supposed to be here so there’s more around than I was expecting. By law, masks have to be worn in the building but compliance is very low 🤦‍♀️

@Sinful8

Who would pay for a rent rebate?

I’m not sure. I’m sure the HE sector could afford something if they pooled resources properly, but that’s why my suggestion was qualified as “partial rebate” because I don’t think central government can underwrite another pandemic related bill.

Maybe central government could mandate a fund that all U.K. HEIs donate to and draw from according to means and needs?

Another goady thread, University's are open and the students deserve to have the education they are paying for.

Because they want their youth. We've all had ours.

Great reply

I'd guess the students at Falmouth are the group s that have face to face teaching which the government has exempted and so are on campus/back at their university addresses. It's depressing that people who had paid out money for weddings,holidays and flights have been able to postpone and get refunds. But students who are paying £9250 for zero face to face teaching this year and between £4 and £10k on accommodation (which by the way the government and the unis said they should do so they could be on campus) haven't been offered anything. To be expected to still pay for accommodation which you cannot now live in as well as for an obviously lesser experience blows my mind. There are around 3 million in this situation - way more than for weddings or holidays cancelled. It's an absolute scandal being looked at by none of the consumer rights type organisations or the useless government department responsible. In addition is also no evidence of students to community Covid transmission in uni towns only outbreaks in shared accommodation between their peers. Makes my blood boil at what the least vulnerable to this disease have given up to protect others. Yes I am a parent currently paying £££ each week for a room that has been used for 2 weeks so far this year, taking money out of my retirement fund to do so with a child having 2 hours per week of online prerecorded teaching.

@user1471565182

Anybody bored of the endless attacks on young people yet, whilst they're simultaneously expected to pay for this government's and older generation's shit?

Yes just yes

Because Universities lied to them to get them back in September and the students think if the Authorities can do what they want then we will do what we want.

As someone who has spent the last 10 months literally flat out teaching, reorganising and emotionally supporting students this thread makes depressing reading. However, I won't rant. 3 quick points:

1. A lot of students are broadly pleased with the online learning they're getting, and are aware that their lecturers are doing everything they possibly can to mitigate forces entirely outwith the university's control. Believe me, as soon as we're allowed to teach face-to-face again, most of us are very excited to do so. This doesn't make sensational headlines though. A lot of universities are giving refunds on accommodation; mine is.

1. Students are in the main highly, highly compliant with the guidelines and take on a lot of the high risk, keyworker jobs in the economy e.g. supermarkets, delivery work etc. that are very much keeping the country going. Yes, they have a moan but they're allowed to - they're experiencing something very disruptive at an age when many have never lived or worked away from home before. They deserve our gratitude and support, overall.

1. Students have every right to travel back as safely as possible to their place of usual residence at university in order to undertake the education they are signed up for, if this is necessary in their specific situation. Putting aside normal human considerations - jobs, rents, relationships, safety, need for library, need for space and good wifi, access to university support mechanisms like counselling, access to GP - students have unparalleled testing facilities at many institutions (everyone is getting multiple tests when they arrive back at mine) and slowly staggering necessary arrivals over several weeks - done sensibly - shouldn't put the kind of pressure on numbers that we saw in Sept.

I'm particularly proud of our medical students, many of whom are on the Covid wards right now. My region would be in a far, far bigger mess without the actions of the university and the generosity and bravery of our students.

Because a lot of occupations in the NHS require attending university. Nurses, drs, physios, OTs, paramedics, salt, radiologists etc. Most of which also include on the job training like 12 hours in an ambulance or on a ward and are doing an amazing job supporting the NHS and deserve recognition and praise for all they are doing right now and all whilst writing essays, taking exams, lectures. Given the NHS is the biggest employer in the UK and a reasonable proportion need a uni education I think it's understandable that a reasonable amount of students need to return to campus. As well as those that don't have suitable living accommodation (I.e like I wouldn't have had as a care leaver), those that may not have adequate provision to carry out on line studies and any other reason they may need to be on campus.

My room was shared out to siblings as soon as I left for Uni.
There wasn't decent internet provision.
Getting hold of library books was impossible at home.
My GP and job were at Uni city.

My sister returned back to her private uni accommodation on the 28th December, before announcements were made, due to the fact she is training to be a nurse and was due back in the hospital on the 31st to do a 12 hour shift. A shift she couldn't do if she had stayed at "home" (even though her uni accommodation IS her home now...) 110 miles away.

Only 2/6 are currently back in her uni accommodation including herself as a trainee nurse, and her flatmate who is a trainee paramedic. The rest have stayed "home" despite having to pay thousands in rent!

@Sparklesocks

Some students will have nowhere else to go. Not everyone has a home outside of their student digs.

Others may only be kipping on the sofa when they visit their families but there’s not enough room for them to stay their for an extended period of time.

Some will have a job in their university city they need to do to pay their rent.

This. When I was a student, my mother moved house just before I started uni and she downsized. Staying at "home" meant sleeping on a sofa bed in a town I had never lived in before. So I stayed at uni every summer and worked.