Page 3 | Why don't students respect the stay home message?

Propsneeded · 2021-01-09T23:17:40+00:00

Simple really. Universities are not open for the vast majority unless veterinary etc.....yet many are turning up already... Falmouth 200 students back despite University not open.... Why don't they follow guidelines... Aibu they can do what they like Yanbu they should follow the guidelines and stay at home

Stirmecrazy · 09/01/2021 23:52

@Propsneeded

I totally agree that they should be refunded accommodation costs if they don't come to university accommodation

Well there is your answer . The problem is not with the students but with the universities and govt who are not offering refunds on accomodation costs. I am about to pay over £2000 for my DD’s accomodation this term . Luckily she is doing a medical degree so will be back on campus next week. So I will be one of those parents dropping her off but only a few courses are still running on campus and yet students and parents are expected to hand over thousands of pounds for accomodation they can’t access.

MargeryMcLatchie · 09/01/2021 23:52

There are four of us working or studying from home in this house now - that's a lot of pressure on wifi and desk space and it feels pretty crowded.
DD pays rent in her university town for a room she's not currently using, she is registered with a GP there, it's her home just as much as here is. She's also happier living with friends and having some social life with people of her own age (her housemates) than she is stuck at home with family. There's also a benefit in living with people who are on her course who she can study alongside.
At the moment she's here with us, but I wouldn't stop her going if she felt that she going back would be beneficial to her well-being. Obviously if the option was removed by the government or landlord waiving payment for the room, that would be different but they haven't.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 09/01/2021 23:54

I spent a year as a student in a small town that essentially doubled in size during term time. The locals made complaining about the ‘bloody students’ into the town’s most popular leisure activity - yet never seemed to complain about the facilities and services a town of that size would never have enjoyed without the university.

I wonder if Falmouth has a similar vibe - and some of its residents a similar attitude?

dottiedaisee · 09/01/2021 23:56

@marshmallowfluffy

Because they are paying rent? Because it's easier to socially distance away from home? Because the rest of the family might have risk factors like working frontline ? Because their employers might want them back in work?

This 100%. students are human beings ..is that ok ?!!

Witchend · 09/01/2021 23:56

No point saying that students should be refunded accommodation fees. A good number of the universities are doing that for students in halls.

However the majority (around 2/3) of students will be in private lets so the university has no call over that.
And yes, some of the landlords will be huge landowners who can probably afford to lose 3 months' rent. Dd otoh their rent goes to a lovely lady who uses it to pay her dm's care home fees. Who do you suggest loses out here?

AHippoNamedBooBooButt · 09/01/2021 23:56

They have paid their rents, many will have weekend jobs in essential retail, they may not have space at home any more as younger siblings have taken their bedrooms. Some went back last weekend prior to the new lockdown being announced. Many valid reasons

floridapalmtree · 09/01/2021 23:56

They are paying rent and live in their university towns. They will not get a refund or rebate from private landlords so are just wasting rent if not at their university house.

Virtually all of my dd friends have had it when they went back in October so less likely to get it again.

They are not having a great time in their university towns as there is nothing to do and nowhere to go. Their mental health is very low.

LindaLeadbetter · 09/01/2021 23:57

Because our broadband is crap, DH and I are trying to WFH and we have 3 other children being homeschooled, it's chaos here and he has important exams coming up.

Iamanunsafebuilding · 09/01/2021 23:58

My DS is returning to his Uni city tomorrow which is 180 miles away. He's a 3rd year student and as his Uni city and our hometown were both tier 2 when he came home (9th Dec) he didn't bring his text books home as none of us foresaw the current situation. He's doing a science degree and will need lab time and he's hoping for some face to face time with his tutor for his dissertation piece.

OverTheRainbowLiesOz · 09/01/2021 23:58

I know a student at Falmouth. She lives there permanently and not with her family.

toppocket · 10/01/2021 00:05

My daughter returned to her university as she's a med student. As are her housemates. I shall tell them all you'd prefer they go home and not infect your cities?l oh except the Covid tests she has a week mean she's unlikely to be infecting anyone. I'd rather she was safe here rather then being at risk on the wards. But please do carry on throwing mud at her OP. She was crying just before Xmas as she was tired of being blamed as a student for rising case numbers when she's working her arse off doing hands on care, studying and not seeing anyone at all.

HostessTrolley · 10/01/2021 00:08

I took my d back to london today in preparation for her covid test tomorrow and start of term on Monday. 4/6 of her housemates are there - the ones that are med students. The others are staying at home. Her friend lives in a flat nearby and is preparing to spend the whole term on her own as her flatmates are not medical students and they will be penalised by the landlord if the flat is not occupied. They are all doing some voluntary work in the vaccination clinics around their courses which already involves 38 hours/week of contact time plus study on top. Three have long term partners who they are not going to see until April.

Yup. Bloody students.

user1471565182 · 10/01/2021 00:08

£9000 they paid for this.I know on mumsnet thats a weekly waitrose shop but in the real world thats an insane amount of money and what are they getting?

Stirmecrazy · 10/01/2021 00:08

@Witchend

No point saying that students should be refunded accommodation fees. A good number of the universities are doing that for students in halls.

However the majority (around 2/3) of students will be in private lets so the university has no call over that.
And yes, some of the landlords will be huge landowners who can probably afford to lose 3 months' rent. Dd otoh their rent goes to a lovely lady who uses it to pay her dm's care home fees. Who do you suggest loses out here?

If the govt does not want students to travel back to student accommodation the govt should refund the student the cost of their rent . That way it would make no difference if they are in uni or private accomodation . Also not a whiff of a refund so far from my DD’s uni for uni accomodation Although luckily not relevant to us as she will be going back but none of her flat mates will be but will still be paying.

TheSmallAssassin · 10/01/2021 00:09

They are following guidelines if they are returning to their primary residence.

Lillyhatesjaz · 10/01/2021 00:10

My DD has stayed home even though she has paid a large amount of rent to a private landlord and only stayed in the accommodation for 10 nights.
Her best friend at a different uni has been in her university town throughout the pandemic as she subsidies her rent by working in a care home

BogRollBOGOF · 10/01/2021 00:10

Students will be paying for this year and the rest of their studies for much of their working lives. They may as well scrape what they can out of the situation poor souls.

LooseMooseHoose · 10/01/2021 00:10

Also, some universities (don't know if this includes Falmouth) told their students they should come back before the lockdown started.

Lectures might be online now, but what about all their previous notes / work? I was still referring back to first year work in my third and there is no way I brought all my notes / books home each time I went back to my parents to visit. As well as needing library access / a decent workspace.

Access to medical care. When I was at uni you couldn't register with two GPs. My GP was in my uni town because I was there more often, as was recommended. So when I was at my parents, I had no access to the GP. Not ideal in a pandemic.

Thunderblunder · 10/01/2021 00:10

DD3 went back before they were told to stay at home.
She went back for various reasons.
1 - She’s paying rent for her room.
2 - All her belongings are there.
3 - We moved bedrooms around when she left so she has nowhere to study at home.
4 - She felt isolated at home as all her friends live elsewhere.
5 - She can get constant Covid tests at university.

IdblowJonSnow · 10/01/2021 00:12

Some of them might not be wanted or made welcome at home?
Some may have part time jobs or be on placement. 200 students out of thousands is buggar all.

Kazzyhoward · 10/01/2021 00:12

Some unis are treating their students very badly. There are 1100 at Lancaster on a rent strike due to the uni's lack of information about going back, lies re face to face, abysmal treatment of isolating students, etc. It's nearly a week since Boris's new restrictions and yet the uni hasn't clarified the advice/requirements for its students. Just vague comments on the website.

PyongyangKipperbang · 10/01/2021 00:13

well speaking for my daughter, because she cannot WFH. In the same way a scientist cannot perfom lab tests in their kitchen, she cant learn online, her chosen specialism is hands on and requires specialist equipment that is either not practical to use at home or financially impossible.

Oh and she has paid ££££ for a flat that she wants to live in.

But I guess that those facts dont fit your "blame someone else" rhetoric do they?

Kazzyhoward · 10/01/2021 00:14

@user1471565182

£9000 they paid for this.I know on mumsnet thats a weekly waitrose shop but in the real world thats an insane amount of money and what are they getting?

Plus circa £150 per week rent for a flat they're being told not to go back to, despite it being their "home".

3u33y · 10/01/2021 00:15

Probably because
A) they live there
B) may be studying a vocation that makes them a key worker such as nursing/ midwifery/ vetinary/ ODP/ Ambulance tech

GlowingOrb · 10/01/2021 00:15

My student housing was my home. There were times it closed I had to find a couch to sleep on.