People using 'bubbles' as a way of not social distancing

[lozjay]

I'm getting so angry with rule breakers who keep justifying seeing friends and family by claiming they are in their bubble , as I was aware the whole point is not to have so called 100 bubbles of people that's why we are in this shite mess does anyone relate to these kind of humans ? 🤯🤨

Now hold on a bloody minute you listen here I'm entitled a bubble I'm a single woman with three small children and I haven't seen a single soul or will in the next 3 weeks , I'm sick of seeing people abuse bubbles for socialising where I genuinely fit the category but the risk is too much others don't and it kills me being alone but I know it has to be done

The problem with these bubbles is people feel too ENTITLED that if the offer is there why not take it up and there we have kaos

If you’re allowed to form a bubble and you’re struggling not being in one, why are you being a martyr about it?

You can’t force other people to do the right thing. You can only make sure your actions aren’t breaking the rules.

@Athinginitself they aren't allowed all those bubbles though. A support bubble because they have a child under one. Not a support bubble and a child under 1 bubble.

Bubbles aren't the issue if people only have them when actually allowed and follow the rules. The problem is people having illegal ones/chopping and changing all the time.

If they banned bubbles then rule followers would just suffer, and rule breakers would still break rules.

@PurpleDaisies

No we need to suck it up and say no bubbles people will always justify their need and most people who genuinely need them ain't taking the offer up anyway which just leaves all the bubble abusers who are!!

Maybe that’s what you’re seeing but I’ve got single friends whose mental health would be utterly destroyed by months alone. Those bubbles really are a lifeline for people that genuinely need them,

This. I attempted suicide during the first lockdown when bubbles were not allowed. To stop them now would be inhumane for so many.

Yes people are just ‘creating’ bubbles to see people. People who are not vulnerable and are perfectly able bodied.
So the schools get shut, but instead we see groups of mothers at parks and teenagers hanging around in large groups.
That’s the problem with schools closing, because many of them end up mingling together anyway, just outside of school.
As for the mums at the park boasting how they have sent their children to school, that’s taking the piss out of genuine key workers who need to send their kids to school.
Why were these mothers sending their kids to school and then hanging around the park in large groups?

Your not getting the point the whole country is going through some kind of mental health and needs a bubble on that basis , so your saying then may aswel say to everyone see who you want if it stops you feeling down !!!!!!!! This is crazyyy🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 everyone feels low so it's ok go form a bubble cheer yourselves up

Don't worry guys if you have COVID if your feeling low just form some bubbles and spread it even more then we will get out this mess 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@lozjay

Your not getting the point the whole country is going through some kind of mental health and needs a bubble on that basis , so your saying then may aswel say to everyone see who you want if it stops you feeling down !!!!!!!! This is crazyyy🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 everyone feels low so it's ok go form a bubble cheer yourselves up

Nobody is saying that.

Posters are saying that people who fit the criteria to form a bubble should be allowed to do so. Those who don’t, shouldn’t.

I’m intrigued that you’re a single woman with a dh and a MIL. How does that work?

Yeh as in living alone atm

Honestly, this whole post just smacks of "some people refuse to wear masks so they should be mandatory for 100% of people" type thing.

Some people are abusing bubbles.. yes... but many absolutely NEED them.

@lozjay

Shielding people have spent most of the last 10 months (6-7 months) isolating. It’s so unfair to those who live alone to deny them human contact. I’m fortunate enough to not be in that position but I can empathise. Have a heart.

@purpledaisies yes I agree, I'm in a bubble with my DP, he lives alone and wouldn't see anyone if it wasn't for me, from a MH perspective he really struggled in the first lockdown as we didn't see each other for several months (before bubbles were introduced). I'm not sure how he would cope if they were taken away. We live 4 hours apart so can only see each other every couple of weeks anyway which I know some people claim isn't enough support to be a support bubble

I can't bring myself criticise people for small rule breaks though when at the same time you've got idiots travelling all over the place for a holiday (literally every z list celeb was in Dubai in December, all pissed, no social distancing etc) without consequence, ditto all those Instashammers who blatantly breach every rule and have since March - parties, family gatherings, seeing multiple family members etc.

Crazy

@lozjay

Your not getting the point the whole country is going through some kind of mental health and needs a bubble on that basis , so your saying then may aswel say to everyone see who you want if it stops you feeling down !!!!!!!! This is crazyyy🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 everyone feels low so it's ok go form a bubble cheer yourselves up

It is not about just feeling down. For some, it is about not feeling suicidal and creating more pressure on the NHS.

What counselling credentials do you have to compare mental illness to “cheering yourself up”?

@lozjay

Your not getting the point the whole country is going through some kind of mental health and needs a bubble on that basis , so your saying then may aswel say to everyone see who you want if it stops you feeling down !!!!!!!! This is crazyyy🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 everyone feels low so it's ok go form a bubble cheer yourselves up

Who isn't getting it? The whole country is always going through 'mental health'. I assume you mean the whole country is experiencing bad mental health at the moment. Well that's just not true. I know some people who are as mentally well as they were before. I know some people who were as mentally unwell as they were before. I know some people who are worse than they were before. I know some who are better. I know some who have lied about their mental health so they can justify a bubble. Even though I've not seen that as a reason anywhere on the gov website (possible I've missed it).

And all that aside its really fucking insulting to make out that people just feel a "bit down". You do know that's not what depression is right?

I hate this so much. DS was under one on the 2nd December which means we still qualify for a support bubble. Having mum and dad as support (I had post natal anxiety issues) has made a world of difference to my mental health but I constantly feel guilty and like a fraud about it because I know others have it worse. We don’t go anywhere aside from a walk around the park or local (v quiet beauty spots) all shopping is delivered (we use deliveroo so as not to take an online slot from someone who might need it more) and the only place my parents go is to the petrol station and to us as we figured if we are being a support bubble we need to be extra extra careful.
Then you hear and see things like this and I wonder why I’m feeling guilty at all!

I think the issue is exactly as said before the bubble thing gets abused! There is nothing wrong with them if they are followed as intended in the groups that need them! I too am eligible but chose not to just based on risk but I don’t mind others that genuinely need it using them the right way, it’s the likes of people mixing and matching as it suits to basically live life as they did before that risks the spread and the big groups at birthday parties ect! For the above poster that left the park I don’t blame her, I would have done the same. Sadly it’s too easy to catch now with how widely spread the infection is!

For me the loneliness is awful but I know at some point if I keep to the rules even for the ones who don't it may have a chance of getting better if we all give in to the need to see people what hope is there

Family members have been doing this from the summer. Massive multiple bubbles. There is always some excuse. I am honestly sick of hearing it.

I've got no probs with people who genuinely need help I've had depression before , but the fact still remains many are not in genuine need !!

Think we can clearly see who the rule breakers are from this thread !!

Mine is one other household........thats it.

@lozjay

For me the loneliness is awful but I know at some point if I keep to the rules even for the ones who don't it may have a chance of getting better if we all give in to the need to see people what hope is there

You can see people if you fit the support bubble criteria. You say you could but are choosing not to.

Is there no one you could form a bubble with Is that why you’re so anti bubble?

Have you not mixed at all, even within the rules?

It’s a bit mad to be so obviously pissed off with sticking to something that isn’t even a real rule for you. You are making the choice to stay lonely.