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Original poster

To expect to be able to choose not to have the vaccine without being made to feel uncomfortable? *edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

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Drogonssmile · 05/01/2021 11:32

Risking a flaming here:

I work in the NHS not patient facing. Our Trust has said all non frontline staff are likely to be offered the vaccine next week. (1000 staff have already been done which is brilliant!)

I'm a fit and healthy 39 year old with no underlying health conditions. I am not an anti vaxxer however I am concerned about the lack of long term research that has understandably not been able to be done on the vaccine and have made an informed decision that I probably won't have it. I'd prefer my dose to go to someone more vulnerable. I believe this should be my choice.
My colleague is 62 and is all for having the vaccine which is great. I said I probably wouldn't as it doesn't affect transmission only the severity of the illness. Now she isn't speaking to me.
AIBU?

(Also given the amount of setbacks and govt lies/omissions in the last 10 months I wouldn't be at all surprised if the vaccine isn't the silver bullet we've been told to expect. The way things are going I can see is in the same situation in 12 months time).

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Hotcuppatea · 05/01/2021 17:14

Pretty self explanatory i would have thought. Read my post above.

And please keep using that crappy side eye emoji. Its really doing wonders at changing people's minds.

FourTeaFallOut · 05/01/2021 17:14

I think narkiness is less corrosive than dishing out duff information.

Ken1976 · 05/01/2021 17:14

My daughter, a front line nurse, had her jab yesterday. Was given the opportunity to refuse . She asked if anyone of the staff had refused after given all the statistics and was told one person . She wasn't judged because she refused so why would you be?

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Drogonssmile · 05/01/2021 17:14

@LimitIsUp

Like a few other posters and yourself - it doesn't sit well with me that non-frontline staff are getting the vaccine before priority groups
Unfortunately there is not a lot I can do about it. Apparently they're even able to vaccinate every staff member with the two doses within the recommended time frame. ? 3 weeks. I think it is because we were such a high risk area; not at all now but who am I to question the powers that be?!
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Hotcuppatea · 05/01/2021 17:15

@FourTeaFallOut

I think narkiness is less corrosive than dishing out duff information.
Narkiness and insults are not going to help you convince anyone to take this vaccine. Can you honestly not see that?
unmarkedbythat · 05/01/2021 17:17

Oh god, please tell me we're not back to the "unless you're extremely nice and kind to people making stupid choices, their stupid choices are your fault" level of argument on here.

FourTeaFallOut · 05/01/2021 17:17

I'm content that I'm not actively putting people off because of something I read

IceIceBebe · 05/01/2021 17:18

And please keep using that crappy side eye emoji. Its really doing wonders at changing people's minds

I'm not here to change peoples minds. They have already decided. I'm here to tell them them are selfish idiots, so I think you'll find the narkiness and side eyeing entirely suitable to my objective. Thanks for the input though.

IceIceBebe · 05/01/2021 17:19

Oh god, please tell me we're not back to the "unless you're extremely nice and kind to people making stupid choices, their stupid choices are your fault" level of argument on here

Exactly! Don't blame your stupid decisions on people being mad at you for making them.

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Drogonssmile · 05/01/2021 17:20

It's interesting that this topic has brought about rabid frothing at the mouth and hate spouting at one end of the spectrum and fairly quiet contemplation and opinion/discussion at the other. Why do those so pro COVID vaccine have to be so damn nasty?

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/01/2021 17:20

I'm not an anti vaxxer

I'm not a smoker

I am obese

What would you like to make of that?

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Drogonssmile · 05/01/2021 17:21

@CuriousaboutSamphire

I'm not an anti vaxxer

I'm not a smoker

I am obese

What would you like to make of that?

Not interested. Your choice.
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CaptainSandy · 05/01/2021 17:22

I'm not here to change peoples minds. They have already decided. I'm here to tell them them are selfish idiots

And what exactly does that achieve?

FourTeaFallOut · 05/01/2021 17:23

Yes, much better to be ever so polite and quiet while just making shit up.

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Drogonssmile · 05/01/2021 17:23

@CuriousaboutSamphire

I'm not an anti vaxxer

I'm not a smoker

I am obese

What would you like to make of that?

You are spoiling for a fight and like the sound of your own voice and if you got COVID it's probably be worse because you're fat.

Is that what you'd prefer?

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quicknamechange100 · 05/01/2021 17:24

Well, I don't think you're unreasonable, OP. Don't want it, don't get it. Your colleague is being a total oddball.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/01/2021 17:26

Limit I'm not sure if it was this thread or another but I have explained one reason, for the version that needs the very cold temperature.

SIL work in a care home. She is admin, not a carer. She is in her 30s and has no underlying issues. She was vaccinated because once they had opened the batch of vaccines they could either use them all or throw some away, they don't last long, can't be closed up and transported elswhere and the batches are in the hundred, if I remember correctly. So they chose to be sensible and use them. They vaccinated all staff in care homes so they could keep running efficiently; because they, the staff, were available and because it saved wasting vaccine.

unmarkedbythat · 05/01/2021 17:26

@Drogonssmile

It's interesting that this topic has brought about rabid frothing at the mouth and hate spouting at one end of the spectrum and fairly quiet contemplation and opinion/discussion at the other. Why do those so pro COVID vaccine have to be so damn nasty?
Because it's really hard to maintain patience with people who not only want to take action to prolong the pandemic and increase the risk of covid remaining in circulation, but to be pandered to and told how it's their right to do whatever they want and no one can or should judge them for it.

If you don't want the vaccine no one will hold you down and make you have it, so be satisfied with that rather than also demanding everyone responds to a choice that many find both selfish and based on very weak reasoning with sweetness and light.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/01/2021 17:29

Oh dear!

I've been quite reasonable, I thought. Not frothing or nasty. But I answered your question about being a smoker, drinker or overweight based on my previous posting... Just wondered what you wanted to make from it... interesting that you leap to it being my choice and that but would be my fault I got covid worse because of that. That isn't exactly pleasant is it?

Not that I expect you to know my person health circumstances, of course.

chaosrabbitland · 05/01/2021 17:31

being reasonable , im sorry but its every persons choice to have it or not have it , , your workmate sounds like a bedwetting arse whos acting a lot younger than her 61 yrs

FourTeaFallOut · 05/01/2021 17:34

your workmate sounds like a bedwetting arse whos acting a lot younger than her 61 yrs

Your polite and quite banner is slipping, op.

EndOfTheRoadForMe · 05/01/2021 17:35

@TheSilentStars

As long as you declare to your employers that henceforth you can't take the responsibility of getting anywhere near anyone who may be vulnerable, sure.

You're obviously not medical NHS or you wouldn't have trotted out the silliness about the vaccine not having been studied for years.

That's a bit of a silly comment because shouldn't the vulnerable, who op would be working with, have been vaccinated so they will be fine. I thought the vaccine doesn't stop transmission anyway?

Op, I agree, entirely up to you and you shouldn't be treated differently.

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Drogonssmile · 05/01/2021 17:35

@CuriousaboutSamphire

Oh dear!

I've been quite reasonable, I thought. Not frothing or nasty. But I answered your question about being a smoker, drinker or overweight based on my previous posting... Just wondered what you wanted to make from it... interesting that you leap to it being my choice and that but would be my fault I got covid worse because of that. That isn't exactly pleasant is it?

Not that I expect you to know my person health circumstances, of course.

Neither are most of the posts directed at me pleasant. I've been called a moron, a twat, an idiot multiple times. I've admitted my mistakes and taken most of it on the chin but there comes a point when smug posters such as yourself take a bow when being congratulated on spouting the usual mainstream shite make me despair. Congrats. You agree with the majority.
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EndOfTheRoadForMe · 05/01/2021 17:37

@StylishMummy

"I wouldn't speak to you and would ask to move to a separate office if I was your colleague"

Wow. Do you always behave like a spoilt brat at work?

Crazycatlady83 · 05/01/2021 17:39

I guess the other option you have is your colleague be nice to your face but bitch about you behind your back (she is entitled to her opinion, just like you are entitled to yours) She can’t make you take the vaccine just like you can’t make her think you are making a rational well thought out decision. Sounds like you both need to get a grip