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Misery after 8pm announcement

391 replies

WilsonMilson · 04/01/2021 20:13

I’m just so fed up. It feels like Groundhog Day now. Worried about business, worried about ds’s schooling. Doing dry January too - thinking about scraping that tbh. How’s everyone else doing?

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shelvira · 04/01/2021 21:12

Let's hope they use this time to make school buildings safer for when they go back.

But they are still teaching all the same children, albeit remotely, and dealing day to day with the keyworker and vulnerable children. Your phrasing "use this time" makes it sound like you think they have extra time on their hands? As though they're just lazing around doing nothing?

When Boris announced on Friday 18th December that only keyworker and vulnerable children would be going to back to school the first week after Christmas, teachers immediately spent the next few days re-skilling and re-planning for that. Then he announced after Christmas that actually only Year 11s would go back on 11th and the rest on the 18th. So plans were re-jigged AGAIN along with trying to plan for the testing of usually in excess of 1000 children in secondary schools.

In came the keyworker and vulnerable children in some schools today, and teachers and staff spent the day planning for the 11th/18th arrivals of the rest, and now this. Tonight all the school admin staff are frantically monitoring the schools' twitter/facebook feeds and forwarding worried emails from 1000s of parents to headteachers, all to be dealt with tomorrow.

Those schools that had already made testing plans and sent out permission forms and booked rooms and made schedules and started to set up testing stations have now got to go over it all again because now they're only testing the keyworker/vulnerables.

And people think school staff have been sitting around on their arses?!!! Makes my blood boil, as someone on telly said, except my brain's too fried to remember who.

inquietant · 04/01/2021 21:12

@wanderings

What is Boris supposed to bloody do??? He could start by having some fucking INTEGRITY, such as sacking Cummings, stop playing the clown every time he appears, stop making promises he knows he can't keep ("I hope to reopen schools after half term - that practically guarantees it won't happen), stop misleading and gaslighting the public by manipulating figures, stop making policy decisions by leaking things to the press. He has basically lost the public's respect. If he really cared about the "greater good" that he and his merry men keep banging on about, he'd have recognised that he's lost the public's respect, and resign - but oh no, like many prime ministers, he thinks he's God.
Hear hear
Caspah · 04/01/2021 21:13

@NothingIsWrong > There will be people other than your children who will also care, even if you don't know it.

SerenityFlowers · 04/01/2021 21:13

@Unsure33

No but he is a human being and in a particularly difficult job and the virus and mutation is not his fault .

I have lost relatives , I have relatives sick . My daughter will lose her business.

My CEV daughter is struggling with two children at home and trying to work well with no support from family .

It’s shit .

But there also has been furlough
Millions invest in the vaccine
Loans for businesses

And I am not going to sit here and blame one human being for the situation . But you carry on

That’s the democracy we have .

I personally am taking a break from mumsnet for a while because I am sick of the vile personal comments

I thought it would be a constructive and intelligent site for bringing women’s ideas together for good and to achieve things .

But in fact a lot of posters are actually condescending judgemental bullies and I actually feel sad for your children .

This is so true. There is a lot of nastiness out there. Thankfully, online hate-filled agendas do not reflect what most people think in real life. Take care of yourself x
sazzysazz337 · 04/01/2021 21:14

so so fed up, is it ever gonna end?

herecomesthsun · 04/01/2021 21:15

@shelvira

Let's hope they use this time to make school buildings safer for when they go back.

But they are still teaching all the same children, albeit remotely, and dealing day to day with the keyworker and vulnerable children. Your phrasing "use this time" makes it sound like you think they have extra time on their hands? As though they're just lazing around doing nothing?

When Boris announced on Friday 18th December that only keyworker and vulnerable children would be going to back to school the first week after Christmas, teachers immediately spent the next few days re-skilling and re-planning for that. Then he announced after Christmas that actually only Year 11s would go back on 11th and the rest on the 18th. So plans were re-jigged AGAIN along with trying to plan for the testing of usually in excess of 1000 children in secondary schools.

In came the keyworker and vulnerable children in some schools today, and teachers and staff spent the day planning for the 11th/18th arrivals of the rest, and now this. Tonight all the school admin staff are frantically monitoring the schools' twitter/facebook feeds and forwarding worried emails from 1000s of parents to headteachers, all to be dealt with tomorrow.

Those schools that had already made testing plans and sent out permission forms and booked rooms and made schedules and started to set up testing stations have now got to go over it all again because now they're only testing the keyworker/vulnerables.

And people think school staff have been sitting around on their arses?!!! Makes my blood boil, as someone on telly said, except my brain's too fried to remember who.

No. it is not the techers doing nothing. It is the politicians not following WHO guidance and not giving the resources to do so.

It is the politicians.

Is that not obvious?

herecomesthsun · 04/01/2021 21:15

teachers sorry

herecomesthsun · 04/01/2021 21:15

brain also fried

RaggieDolls · 04/01/2021 21:16

@Pinkpercy

The tears are flowing and I don’t really know why! I don’t have kids
@Pinkpercy obviously I'm sorry you're upset but it's actually made me feel a little bit better to think there is someone without children who recognises how awful this is.

I'm so tired of being told to suck it up when being asked to homeschool two children and work is just intolerable.

wizzbangfizz · 04/01/2021 21:16

The people and their agendas can fuck right off, sanctimonious smugness at this time - honestly how low can you stoop?!

And yes I can't believe we are back to square one because it is proved lockdowns don't work. But fuck education, people's businesses and livelihoods and the mental health and well-being of who knows how many.

whereisthejoy · 04/01/2021 21:16

@TheBottleIsFullofHappiness Thanks

How old is your DD? Similar concerns here x

SingingSands · 04/01/2021 21:17

My teenage daughter is so, so upset. Her mental health is in the gutter, and I wish I could wave a magic wand and fix all this.

Big handhold everyone Thanks and I'm having a Wine

DuchessofDerbyshire · 04/01/2021 21:17

@Unsure33

No but he is a human being and in a particularly difficult job and the virus and mutation is not his fault .

I have lost relatives , I have relatives sick . My daughter will lose her business.

My CEV daughter is struggling with two children at home and trying to work well with no support from family .

It’s shit .

But there also has been furlough
Millions invest in the vaccine
Loans for businesses

And I am not going to sit here and blame one human being for the situation . But you carry on

That’s the democracy we have .

I personally am taking a break from mumsnet for a while because I am sick of the vile personal comments

I thought it would be a constructive and intelligent site for bringing women’s ideas together for good and to achieve things .

But in fact a lot of posters are actually condescending judgemental bullies and I actually feel sad for your children .

I agree.

we are where were are for two reasons:

Too many people ignoring the rules- as shown daily here on MN.

A new variant of the virus.

Yes, measures could have been tighter but given the huge amount of non compliance already, it was a fine line any government was walking.

We are talking of 5 weeks to mid-February.

WE can all DO that.

In WW2 our parents (mine) suffered for 6 years never knowing if they would be bombed and dead every night.

Please get a sense of perspective.

Some of the toughest people I know who are coping at the moment, despite being widows, widowers, isolated and not in great health, are in their 80s and 90s.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 04/01/2021 21:17

Yesterday and this morning there was one set of data available.

By lunch time another set of data had been delivered, other conferences held, other precedences set.

There'll be more by Wednesday.

Putting on my MN St Peston hat I foresee that in about 3 weeks time there will be signs of change and a new set of guidelines. We will all struggle with/celebrate a whole new idea if our daily life.

Repeat until the vaccine starts to make a real difference, NHS capacity returns to manageable levels and we can start living more normally.

Much as we have been told for months and months

NOTANUM · 04/01/2021 21:19

The comments they have made about our politicians are disgraceful. Calling someone a cxxt shouldn’t be allowed. They mouth off and won’t listen to any other view point
You only had to read the steady drum beat for schools to close since December on here to see that, with no attempt at debate that doesn't end in a chorus of "F*&K you Tory" type responses.
I suspect this has damaged MN very much. It's turned impossible to have any discussion anymore.

JustDanceAddict · 04/01/2021 21:20

I’m gutted - mainly for my kids and their lack of uni and sixth form teaching/experiences.
It was terrible in March but at least the weather was good & we thought it would all be over by the summer.

Mincepiehangover · 04/01/2021 21:20

@AgnesNaismith - agree 100%

MarshaBradyo · 04/01/2021 21:21

@NOTANUM

The comments they have made about our politicians are disgraceful. Calling someone a cxxt shouldn’t be allowed. They mouth off and won’t listen to any other view point You only had to read the steady drum beat for schools to close since December on here to see that, with no attempt at debate that doesn't end in a chorus of "F*&K you Tory" type responses. I suspect this has damaged MN very much. It's turned impossible to have any discussion anymore.
Yep
nevereverplease · 04/01/2021 21:21

@wizzbangfizz exactly.

Don't know what some of you don't understand. How many people in a grand scale are fucked. It's a joke. And Im more angry tonight after this announcement. Lost for words in fact.

Elphame · 04/01/2021 21:21

So those who wanted a lockdown have got their way.

My business has been forcibly closed since October and no word as to when I can re-open.

I was due to start a course this week that would have enabled me to start to train for a new job. That's now off.

At least a new bottle of gin arrived from the gin club this morning. It may not last long

GreenlandTheMovie · 04/01/2021 21:21

DuchessOfDerbyshire We are talking of 5 weeks to mid-February. WE can all DO that.

Oh come on. Its always another lockdown. It was a month in November to get it under control. It was originally 3 weeks, later extended to 6, to "save the NHS".

Get used to your human rights being restricted every time theres a bad flu season in future. And there will be a bad flu season next winter, because so many people won't have built up any immunity this winter.

whereisthejoy · 04/01/2021 21:22

Well said @Unsure33, unbelievable sometimes!

Seasaltyhair · 04/01/2021 21:22

SN children are considered 'vulnerable' and will be able to go to school

They can’t if their school has shut. SN school near me shut yesterday.

tootsytoo · 04/01/2021 21:23

And yes I can't believe we are back to square one because it is proved lockdowns don't work

Yes because people are starting to not give a fuck, everywhere I go, supermarket, school, work no one seems to take this seriously anymore - lockdown is not going to work.

What's going to happen is people are still going to die by the thousands AND we are going to be fucked economically and mentally.

Littleguggi · 04/01/2021 21:24

Fuming! Spent the day getting 4YO mentally prepared for school, she was super excited. Dreading telling her the news in the morning.