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Mainland Scotland in full lockdown from midnight

122 replies

DumplingsAndStew · 04/01/2021 14:16

I'm assuming the same rules and exceptions as last time, does anyone know?

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Ewentheawakesheep · 04/01/2021 14:46

Is there any update to rules on informal childcare continuing?

BurningTheToast · 04/01/2021 14:46

@Baycob

When will this end ? Surely it can't go on forever.
Remember how last spring's lockdown suppressed the virus so much?

Well, if this lockdown does the same then it will end sooner. If people complain and try to find ways to get round it, the R number won't come down sufficiently and it will go on for longer. And the vaccine will reduce pressure on the NHS too because it's being targetted at the people most likely to end up needing hospital care or dying.

So, no, it's obviously not going to go on forever. But you knew that, didn't you? Your post was just a purely rhetorical moan.

It will pass. Look out for your loved ones and your neighbours, stick to the rules, don't be a dick and it will be over sooner.

nexus63 · 04/01/2021 14:46

Scots are to be ordered to stay at home amid a fresh Covid-19 lockdown which will see schools remain closed to pupils until February.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said new curbs would be introduced at midnight in a bid to contain the new, faster-spreading strain of the virus.

New laws will require people to stay at home and work from home where possible.

Outdoor gatherings are also to be cut back, with people only allowed to meet one person from one other household.

Places of worship are to be closed, group exercise banned, and schools will largely operate via online and remote learning until at least February.

These rules will apply across the Scottish mainland until at least the end of January, and will be kept under review. BBC website

TheSunIsStillShining · 04/01/2021 14:47

Are exams cancelled in Scotland?

Peppafrig · 04/01/2021 14:48

Yes exams are cancelled

Peppafrig · 04/01/2021 14:49

The wording of working from home when possible. This is going to hurt women in the workplace.

SomethingInTheWaySheCooks · 04/01/2021 14:49

Does the two people, two households meeting outside rule mean a family of four can’t exercise outside, say in a walk? Or is it just two when meeting others?

lyralalala · 04/01/2021 14:50

@Peppafrig

Looks like workplaces are still open if you can’t work from home so not as tough as last time. Construction etc was all closed last time this time is open . So now I need to work out of the house and be at home homeschooling . Guess I will be unpaid the rest of the month ,
I don't think that will last long before it's back to only opening if the business is essential. She very much sounded to me like she was giving businesses the chance to make the decision willingly before she made it for them again.
TheSunIsStillShining · 04/01/2021 14:51

@Peppafrig
Thx. meaning that they will be teacher assessed as list time, right?

lyralalala · 04/01/2021 14:51

@SomethingInTheWaySheCooks

Does the two people, two households meeting outside rule mean a family of four can’t exercise outside, say in a walk? Or is it just two when meeting others?
No. A household can go out together. The limit is on meeting people from another household.

Children under 11 can also still play together

DBML · 04/01/2021 14:52

Out of all the nations leaders, it’s ironic that Sturgeon has the biggest balls.

RaspberryCoulis · 04/01/2021 14:52

This new announcement will change very little.

She had already decreed that all non-essential retail on the Scottish mainland closed on Christmas Eve and did not reopen. Hospitality including cafes and restaurants are closed - takeaway only. We were told before Chrsitmas that schools wouldn't be opening until at least 18th Jan. We're banned from leaving our Council area or meeting people inside.

So this new "announcement" is changing the message from "stay at home" to "stay THE FUCK at home" and for a fortnight longer.

Don't be fooled by her posturing and spin.

MathsFiend · 04/01/2021 14:54

@AlecTrevelyan006

Sturgeon was banging on in the summer about elimination and how much Scotland was doing compared to England.

Back in the real world, viruses gotta virus...

How many times does this need explained? Scotland had eliminated COVID in the summer. However, Scottish government does not have ability to close borders. UK government encouraged people to travel abroad by removing Foreign Office advice on limiting travel to essential purposes only, and by introducing air bridges. This led to introducing new variants of the virus and new chains of transmission into Scotland.

UK government should have closed borders to all but essential travel, and mirrored Sturgeon’s more cautious approach when removing the lockdown restrictions in England. Then we wouldn’t be in the state we currently are.

rossclare · 04/01/2021 14:54

But the vaccine doesn't stop you catching it (they don't think ). It just stops the symptoms. So teachers could get it, not get symptoms and carry out spreading it unknowingly.

jessstan1 · 04/01/2021 14:55

Orf1abc Mon 04-Jan-21 14:19:28
Good to see a leader taking decisive action.
.......
Yes!

Peppafrig · 04/01/2021 14:56

I agree what are we meant to do for childcare if we work in manufacturing and construction . The only thing changing is schools are shut but everything else is going on as normal.

lyralalala · 04/01/2021 14:56

@RaspberryCoulis

This new announcement will change very little.

She had already decreed that all non-essential retail on the Scottish mainland closed on Christmas Eve and did not reopen. Hospitality including cafes and restaurants are closed - takeaway only. We were told before Chrsitmas that schools wouldn't be opening until at least 18th Jan. We're banned from leaving our Council area or meeting people inside.

So this new "announcement" is changing the message from "stay at home" to "stay THE FUCK at home" and for a fortnight longer.

Don't be fooled by her posturing and spin.

It might not change much between now and the plans for the 18th, but at least it's organised and people now know the deal until Feb.

Boris is making an announcement at 8pm tonight. My kids should have been back at school today so it's too late, again.

SpaceRaiders · 04/01/2021 14:56

England will follow suit from tonight.

rossclare · 04/01/2021 14:57

Totally agree.

1lbperweek · 04/01/2021 14:57

Agree with a PP it changes nothing other than schools.

Stay at home? Where the hell was anyone going?!

Randominternetbitch · 04/01/2021 14:57

So like tier 4 but with schools closed till Feb? Not a lot new then

CoffeeandCroissant · 04/01/2021 14:57

Access to 900,000 vaccine doses by the end of January - so almost enough for 1 in 5 of the population if done on a 1 initial dose per person basis...

/Nicola Sturgeon says well over 100,000 people have now received their first Covid vaccine, with the first doses of the Astra Zeneca vaccine being administered today.

The first minister expects over 900,000 vaccine doses - split roughly equally between the Pfizer and Astra Zeneca vaccines - to be administered by the end of January, but hopes that figure can be increased.

Some of the Astra Zeneca portion will be available only in the last week of January, she says.

"We do not yet have certainty on supply schedules beyond January but will keep Parliament updated as these become firmer," she adds.

The current expectation is that by early May everyone over 50, and people under 50 with specific underlying conditions, will have received at least their first dose of vaccine, which comprises more than 2.5 million people, Ms Sturgeon says.

Once everyone on the priority list has been vaccinated, we will start vaccinating the rest of the population, she adds.

/
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-55533377

StickTheKettleOnAlice · 04/01/2021 14:58

At times like this I wished I lived in Scotland. My dc's school is open and I have no idea whether to send tomorrow! What to do for the best?!

RaspberryCoulis · 04/01/2021 14:58

@Randominternetbitch

So like tier 4 but with schools closed till Feb? Not a lot new then
Exactly.

And with no live teaching / video lessons as many Councils in Scotland have banned it.

florafoxtrot · 04/01/2021 15:04

“Posturing and spin”

SERIOUSLY?!