Retired nurse willing to vaccinate... but..

[nopeaceforthewicked]

So I've rejoined the temporary register and looked at joining nhsp so I can vaccinate.

They're expecting me to complete online training (all of which I've done before when employed) which I know is about 2 days worth before they will proceed with application.

About 90% is irrelevant.

Feeling very fed up.

@sashagabadon

To be fair lots of us are doing stuff to help in our own time without pay. I am on the Oxford vaccine trial which is actually pretty time consuming, I am also going to help with testing next week at my kids school and I have volunteered to be a vaccinator steward which I will do at the weekend and evenings in my own time and also without pay. I also work full time in a hospital too. But up to you I guess. One benefit is that you might actually get vaccinated so that could be a good incentive?

I don't doubt you are.

I did too for all those years

I had this nonsense when I signed up to my local Trust staff bank a while back. Something like 20 online mandatory courses. I found their system isn’t clever (surprise surprise) so I stuck a movie on my iPad to entertain me and then on my laptop I opened all 20 courses on separate tabs and just sat flicking from course to course clicking ‘next’ without reading them and then each time I came to a quiz section I answered the questions. Even if you get one wrong, you can just answer it again. Did the while lot before the film ended!

I think the point of this is that people like me would be happy to come back and help, but it needs to be in a straightforward, acceptable way. A lot of us will have had a belly full of nhs red tape and taking it all back on is really not appealing

Not to mention impossible if you don't happen to have a laptop!

@sashagabadon

To be fair lots of us are doing stuff to help in our own time without pay. I am on the Oxford vaccine trial which is actually pretty time consuming, I am also going to help with testing next week at my kids school and I have volunteered to be a vaccinator steward which I will do at the weekend and evenings in my own time and also without pay. I also work full time in a hospital too. But up to you I guess. One benefit is that you might actually get vaccinated so that could be a good incentive?

The issue is the nonsensical training doesn’t help anything when folk have done it before - it’s just a jobsworth mentality from the nhs and it should be paid.

Why is it relevant that you have time on your hands and don’t mind being unpaid? Seems irrelevant to the thread.

@nopeaceforthewicked

Not to mention impossible if you don't happen to have a laptop!

Exactly - the nhs isn’t trying very hard to encourage folk back and i think letters to mp’s to make them aware of the crazy is the way forward. They wouldn’t believe the nonsense that’s going on in the middle of a crisis!

Rather ironically I would prefer to volunteer.. I'm not bothered about being paid. But you have to be registered to vaccinate so I registered.

As a registered nurse you can't work as such as a volunteer... you have to be in paid employment

Laughable.

I work full time with kids! I don’t have time on my hands
But I am happy to help where I can.
The op was complaining about the on line courses. I know them very well as many I do annually and I am just making the point that they are not that hard if you have a medical background, you can whizz to the assessment and get them done in 10 mins max, some 5 mins. I get it’s a pain however. Anyway up to the op what she does but if it is only the courses putting her off then my advice would be to start them and I bet she does them pretty easily.

@sashagabadon

I work full time with kids! I don’t have time on my hands But I am happy to help where I can. The op was complaining about the on line courses. I know them very well as many I do annually and I am just making the point that they are not that hard if you have a medical background, you can whizz to the assessment and get them done in 10 mins max, some 5 mins. I get it’s a pain however. Anyway up to the op what she does but if it is only the courses putting her off then my advice would be to start them and I bet she does them pretty easily.

You have entirely missed my point 😂

Oh well. I was trying to be helpful with advice on the courses but never mind

I looked as well,Retired Army Nursing Officer,not jumping through hoops to help out.Most of what they want you to do is irrelevant.

Nobody would guess we are in the midst of a Pandemic!!!

nopeaceforthewicked

I completely understand where you are coming from. On here you've been given tips for taking short cuts, either the training is important and has relevance to your work or it's a box ticking exercise. If it's the latter then people need to start taking a stand. How much money is spent on mandatory training that is irrelevant to the work of the people sent to do it. People complain about waste and bureaucracy in government organisations and this is a prime example when we have neither the time or the money to spare.

OP- are you sure the training is unpaid? I signed up to track and trace which required joining NHSP. I too had to do hours of training, but as others said, for some parts, you can just skip to the assessments. I am supposed to get 8hrs pay though for the training time.

Track and trace as a clinician might be an option, if the vaccinator roles and proving more difficult. Or, get in touch with local GP's who might need help.

To be honest everyone I know (current NHS employees) has said they would be happy to vaccinate, our trust is reploying sheilding/ vunerable staff to run the vaccination programme. My understanding is the bottle neck is the supply of the vaccines themselves not those weilding needles. Extra shifts on AMU or the COVID wards however......

Some of the training may seem irrelevant but they have to cover themselves.
You would not be allowed work any where as a practising nurse without fire training etc.
I am currently practising and have to do some online stuff also

I read in the Sunday Telegraph today (front page) that Matt Hancock has told the NHS to fastrack qualified and retired medical practitioners to enable them to become vaccinators without going through all the modules and red tape.

@sashagabadon

I work full time with kids! I don’t have time on my hands But I am happy to help where I can. The op was complaining about the on line courses. I know them very well as many I do annually and I am just making the point that they are not that hard if you have a medical background, you can whizz to the assessment and get them done in 10 mins max, some 5 mins. I get it’s a pain however. Anyway up to the op what she does but if it is only the courses putting her off then my advice would be to start them and I bet she does them pretty easily.

Some of the nhs ones take 30-40 minutes even without bothering to read the materials. Hence I did them in parallel.

If you didn’t have time you wouldn’t be able to volunteer. So you must have time to spare. Well done you!

@480Widdio

I looked as well,Retired Army Nursing Officer,not jumping through hoops to help out.Most of what they want you to do is irrelevant.

Nobody would guess we are in the midst of a Pandemic!!!

Quite! Folk are missing the point. The nhs is creating hurdles and that’s a daft thing to do.

@Namefortodayandtomorrow

I read in the Sunday Telegraph today (front page) that Matt Hancock has told the NHS to fastrack qualified and retired medical practitioners to enable them to become vaccinators without going through all the modules and red tape.

They will just choose to interpret that as meaning they should send the links to the online training out to them faster.......

Yes boris said this morning it’s ridiculous and the relevant departments should be looking into it .

Yes minister springs to mind for those old enough to remember. Some heads of trusts or phe need to cut through the crap

I really didn't want to ever work again

Once you're half way through your first shift the novelty will have worn off and you'll feel like you're just back at work. You'll begrudge the day after that and every other day.

I read about this too OP. I trust you have received the relevant training re spotting radicalisation?

Utterly bloody bonkers

@HesterShaw1

I read about this too OP. I trust you have received the relevant training re spotting radicalisation?

Utterly bloody bonkers

I've done it every year since they invented it... won't be doing it again

Mmn654123

“They will just choose to interpret that as meaning they should send the links to the online training out to them faster.......”

Accurate.

@hopefulhalf

To be honest everyone I know (current NHS employees) has said they would be happy to vaccinate, our trust is reploying sheilding/ vunerable staff to run the vaccination programme. My understanding is the bottle neck is the supply of the vaccines themselves not those weilding needles. Extra shifts on AMU or the COVID wards however......

Are they vaccinating the shielding staff first?