Headteacher unions begin legal proceedings against DfE

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NAHT and ASCL start legal proceedings against DfE

This a strike proposal. This is exactly what it is. Stop trying to name it as something else

It isn’t. Otherwise it would be called a strike and teachers would be refusing to work. They aren’t.

When people keep posting the same shit over and over despite having been corrected it is clear that they are not posting in good faith and therefore not worth bothering with.

Well yes. You only have to look at the coronavirus board and see the sheer amount of teacher threads to know that

You do realise that families go in supermarkets, and that kids go in them as well, hundreds of different ones, from hundreds of different households, everdyay

Like you've been told before, unless they are sitting down in groups of 30 per aisle of the supermarket without their masks, within 2m of you, for fifteen minutes, the environment is not the same. The world and his wife can see this. But no doubt somebody will be along soon to say that that's exactly what happens in their supermarket, etc

'No it bloody isn’t. No one is intending not to work.'

But, but live lessons are sooo tricky and not everyone has lap tops etc etc etc. One vocal teacher on here doesn't like live lessons either waaaah, seemingly unable to problem solve, trouble shoot compromise and adapt.

@Flaxmeadow it’s almost comforting that throughout every hideous turn of events this pandemic brings, you’re still here posting exactly the same stuff you’ve been posting since March. It’s a given that you’ll be on any thread accusing teachers of wanting to sit on their arses!

Flax why is that supermarket crammed with people? Please tell me what's one and I will write to the local MP about it. That's dreadful and supermarket staff shouldn't have to work like that.

The same way no one should

[quote year5teacher]@Flaxmeadow it’s almost comforting that throughout every hideous turn of events this pandemic brings, you’re still here posting exactly the same stuff you’ve been posting since March. It’s a given that you’ll be on any thread accusing teachers of wanting to sit on their arses![/quote]
At all times of the day.

'Well yes. You only have to look at the coronavirus board and see the sheer amount of teacher threads to know that'

Exactly. We can't do live lessons/ we must do live lessons. It's exhausting just reading it.

I feel for cashiers and the only perspex screen is in an awkward angle personally I think they should be a perspex box 3 sides...

Other staff however can walk away from anywhere if its too crowded!.
Staff in a school can't just walk away from their usual crowded class.
However because I feel cashiers should be afforded more protection doesn't mean I feel school staff should have to go into exposed crowds from different households every day.

But, but live lessons are sooo tricky and not everyone has lap tops etc etc etc. One vocal teacher on here doesn't like live lessons either waaaah, seemingly unable to problem solve, trouble shoot compromise and adapt.

Ok, very funny, but you do know that since October we have been legally obliged to provide a full curriculum remotely? And that many of us have been doing precisely that for isolating students? While simultaneously teaching students in our classrooms?

'Staff in a school can't just walk away from their usual crowded class.'

They sit at the front 2m away. Granted i do think face covers should be worn in class, I've no idea why they aren't.

We had one teacher bemoaning they were 'confined' to class at break time and couldn't mingle in a rammed staff room. The safety worries seem a bit selective.

Why are people bothering to argue? There’s no point. If some members of the general public want to believe that teachers are lazy, disruptive and want to “sit on their arses” all day, they are free to. It won’t make it true however.

@whatshalliget

Why are people bothering to argue? There’s no point. If some members of the general public want to believe that teachers are lazy, disruptive and want to “sit on their arses” all day, they are free to. It won’t make it true however.

unfortunately its the same posters posting the same misinformation and bullshit all the time.

'And that many of us have been doing precisely that for isolating students? While simultaneously teaching students in our classrooms?'

Simultaneously being the key word here. When ours isolate they participate in exactly the same lesson just remotely. You're making out they have to have their own special one.

Exactly. We can't do live lessons/ we must do live lessons. It's exhausting just reading it.

Jesus It’s almost like teachers are real human people with different opinions and circumstances to each other! Who knew? I certainly didn’t.

My TeacherBorgMindSoftware(TM) must not have updated this week.

One vocal teacher on here doesn't like live lessons either waaaah

Is that me? It usually is when they say 'vocal teacher'.

I don't think they're the gold standard of remote education, there's no evidence to show that they're any more effective than recorded lessons that can be viewed at any time and they cause problems for families by meaning that pupils need to have a device logged into the internet at a particular time instead of at their own convenience when the family laptop is free.

unfortunately its the same posters posting the same misinformation and bullshit all the time

smacks of an agenda

@Flaxmeadow

Look at the state of the coronavirus board now. Completely overrun by bleeding heart middle class political activism and political point scoring, in the heat of a pandemic crisis. Shameful for calling strike action. An utter disgrace

Are you actually hearing anything that anyone says to you? Still no call for a strike.

'It’s almost like teachers are real human people with different opinions and circumstances to each other! Who knew? I certainly didn’t.'

Yes but the same teachers rightly want safety then argue they don't like live lessons. They aren't 'the gold standard'. News flash! None of this is the gold standard!!! Jesus.

Get, they don't sit two meters away. Most get up, walk around, help individuals with work, it's impossible to sit and stay two meters away.
Staff rooms provide tea, fridges etc, some staff rota who will stay with a class and dash to the staffroom to get lunch to take back.

I don't understand the point here.

'Are you actually hearing anything that anyone says to you? Still no call for a strike'

Yes get it right flax! it's article blah blah - a walk out/no show. Not a strike, cos they still want paying obvs.

Simultaneously being the key word here. When ours isolate they participate in exactly the same lesson just remotely. You're making out they have to have their own special one

Given that face to face teaching and remote teaching are totally different from a pedagogical point of view, doing both at once requires a shit ton* more work.

*this is an estimate

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'And that many of us have been doing precisely that for isolating students? While simultaneously teaching students in our classrooms?'

Simultaneously being the key word here. When ours isolate they participate in exactly the same lesson just remotely. You're making out they have to have their own special one.

I’m not “making out” anything. It’s just as you say. Live lessons. Not always ideal, but there’s no “waaaah” involved.

Why the shaming of teachers? I don’t get it.