If this doesn’t make you think twice about breaking COVID rules....

[Strawberrycreamsundae]

Then nothing will......🤬😡
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55479018

@Weedsnseeds1

probably meant large numbers dying from one family, or possibly parents and their descendant?

I would find that very sad.

@trulydelicious she agrees with the general sentiment. And she said what a pp said, that the NHS was already struggling at the start of covid due to having a particularly bad winter last year. She certainly wouldn’t break the rules. Besides, she’s been working so hard this year she wouldn’t have time to break any! She’s exhausted on her days off.
However, she doesn’t agree with the hyperbole of ‘blood on hands’ and all the blaming.

It's really not that hard to find stories of multiple people from a single family dying. Here are three quite recent ones that I found in 5 mins googling.

www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-11-19/funeral-takes-place-for-three-members-of-same-family-who-died-from-coronavirus

www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/11/12/news/three-members-of-one-family-die-with-covid-19-2127376/

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18869881.three-generations-blackburn-family-die-coronavirus/

@Passmeabottlemrjones

Why do I get the feeling this man voted Tory at the last election?

Probably your own prejudice

I've googled him. Up until the covid hiatus, he's a very active climate change campaigner regularly critical of the government and rapacious big businesses.

I wonder when he says "wiped out" he just means many of them are unwell, in a "I had a really bad cold, I felt wiped out." way.

The people who are going out, having parties, hugging etc aren't going to pay any attention to this.

@hitsvilleuk read my second post. You slightly misunderstood my first one. She certainly isn’t laughing at the situation - merely at some of his histrionics.

@HelloMissus

But I do not like this blame game at all. Many people have no option but to go to work, to ride public transport, to send their DC to school and childcare settings, to care for elderly relatives, to mix in their house shares etc

I think his message is sufficiently clear. He's not blaming those you mention, it's people who could not care less about the consequences of their irresponsible behaviour. And they are to blame

@TheGreatWave

I wonder when he says "wiped out" he just means many of them are unwell, in a "I had a really bad cold, I felt wiped out." way.

The people who are going out, having parties, hugging etc aren't going to pay any attention to this.

Actually dead, I think. Fair number of deaths of covid patients in ICU right now.

I wash my hands, I wear a fucking mask, I socially distance, I still caught covid. So, I'm to blame am I? Not a virus doing what viruses do? And now if I unwittingly passed it on to someone who gets really sick or dies, I...personally...have blood on my hands!

Get tae fuck!!

Although, glad to see one sensible statement from him

He told Radio 5's Rachel Burden it was wrong to blame the surge in cases and deaths on the new variant of coronavirus, which was only "slightly" more transmissible and caused the same symptoms.

Another doctor said that they need contingency planning for when they can't deliver the care that they would normally - there are a lot of ethical dilemmas for them, (a real challenge when they are physically and emotionally exhausted, may not have been able to take leave for extended periods etc).

I saw Indie Sage - this point from the frontline doctor was not adequately answered, either. She was asking, what do we do when we just simply cannot deliver care to the ethical standards that are normal, that we normally operate to. And she didn't get an answer. As the earlier doctor had said - when they simply don't have enough CPAP machines - who do you prioritise? Do you give everyone equal access to worse care, or do you prioritise the 30 year old over the 50 year old. What if the 50 year old has small kids but the 30 year old doesn't?

To be fair it's not an easy one, but it was clear that this situation may well arise in the UK and I think it merited a clear " if this happens we don't know but we are thinking about it" at the very least. OBVIOUSLY no-one wants it to get to that point and will do everything they can to prevent it but what if it happens anyway? I very much hope frontline doctors will not be abandoned by management and some kind of protocols will be given to them rather than them having to decide life or death without any guidance.

We've been in tier 3 since the tiers were introduced. My town is lumped in with higher number areas. Our schools remained open and our numbers were very low. Why do people insist schools are to blame when a lot of areas had low numbers despite schools remaining open.

I think 'wiped out' means dead too. There are many cases where there have been a number of family members who have died.

@lljkk

I thought his comments were very hyperbolic. I had to switch station because my ire started to rise when he started ranting.

He basically implied that everyone who caught C19 was either a totally innocent victim or a desperately bad selfish person. No inbetween. Nobody understandably struggling with horrible decisions.

So yeah, his comments make me think twice -- but in opposite way OP wanted. I am sorry the man is stressed out but his guilt-mongering still backfires with me.

Wouldn't surprise me if someone comes forward to say the guy himself has not followed every rule perfectly since February. He's set himself up for it.

I fully agree. I'm fairly confident most key workers would not agree with this article.

A Professor working on the frontline makes a cri de coeur and is called vile. We really have gone 360 degrees on the clapping now. The disaster is upon us

Dr Julia Grace Patterson
@JujuliaGrace
BREAKING: from the Royal London Hospital, this email from management.
“We are now in disaster medicine mode. We are no longer providing high standard critical care, because we cannot”.
The content of this email is SHOCKING and I’m passing it to a trusted journalist right now..

@IloveJKRowling

What to do when you run out of beds was considered at the start of the pandemic, and what they will do is a modified form of reverse triage, known as the Three Wise Men approach

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-uk-deaths-nhs-intensive-care-flu-wise-men-protocol-a9361916.html

@vera99

A Professor working on the frontline makes a cri de coeur and is called vile. We really have gone 360 degrees on the clapping now. The disaster is upon us

Dr Julia Grace Patterson
@JujuliaGrace
BREAKING: from the Royal London Hospital, this email from management.
“We are now in disaster medicine mode. We are no longer providing high standard critical care, because we cannot”.
The content of this email is SHOCKING and I’m passing it to a trusted journalist right now..

I saw that on twitter, and am wondering if it will be reported on by main stream media.

I didn't check - is this a well established twitter account, with consistent posting history?

@SpnBaby1967

I wash my hands, I wear a fucking mask, I socially distance, I still caught covid. So, I'm to blame am I? Not a virus doing what viruses do? And now if I unwittingly passed it on to someone who gets really sick or dies, I...personally...have blood on my hands!

Get tae fuck!!

Although, glad to see one sensible statement from him

He told Radio 5's Rachel Burden it was wrong to blame the surge in cases and deaths on the new variant of coronavirus, which was only "slightly" more transmissible and caused the same symptoms.

But if you got seriously ill and died, it wouldn’t be your fault, it would be the person who passed it to you. It’s only your fault if you survive it, apparently. This is what I find hard to reconcile. It’s the fault of those not following rules that poor innocent victims are lying in ICU. What if their patient in ICU didn’t follow the rules? What if she caught it at a house party? Is she now no longer worthy of the care? Does she switch from being a victim to a selfish criminal?

Yes it is.

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There are so many people still not wearing masks. I don’t care what their mental health reasons are any more. Stay at home if you don’t want to wear a mask. I say that as some who has spent time on a ventilator, watching people die around me. I have mental health problems now, but still wear a mask.

The Consulting Proff is overwrought & overworked & very entitled to his emotions & opinions. I feel bad for being critical when his words were driven by emotions & he's very entitled to those emotions. Doesn't everyone feel rather frustrated with the whole situation... but at end of day, Opinions are ideas & ideas should be subject to scrutiny.

@Againstmachine

Absolute scaremongering, did he say, we are killing our grannies too.

All that he has me think is what a knob.

Quite.

Total knob.

trulydelicious so what about his patients who broke the rules and became infected?
Are they to be blamed for their own situation? Do they have their own blood on their hands?
So he’ll treat ‘em but yanno ...
Or do you only have blood on your hands if you pass it on but are okay yourself?

Mail running with the story now.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9102397/Britains-busiest-hospital-DISASTER-medicine-mode.html

Until recently London wasn’t even in tier 3.. Even Piers Morgan went out in date night with his wife, and he was allowed to.

I’m up north but I don’t think people in London have blood on their hands. London was left out of tier 3, even though the infection rate was higher than other parts of the country and the reason given for this was because there was enough hospital capacity..now there isn’t 🤷‍♀️

@lljkk

The Consulting Proff is overwrought & overworked & very entitled to his emotions & opinions. I feel bad for being critical when his words were driven by emotions & he's very entitled to those emotions. Doesn't everyone feel rather frustrated with the whole situation... but at end of day, Opinions are ideas & ideas should be subject to scrutiny.

You feel bad when his words are being driven by emotions? Seriously, what is wrong with you people?

Please, if you want some idea about what it’s like survive Covid, what it’s like to survive CPAP, what it’s like to have monitoring equipment stolen from your hands in the middle of the night by HCWs desperate to assist their own patients, what it’s like when you realise that there is not one piece of working equipment in the ward as it has, over a period of days, simply stopped working, what it’s like to see people die around you, what it’s like for an elderly lady to die without being able to hear her daughter say goodbye because no-one took the time to change the batteries in her hearing aid.

The good doctor is undoubtedly emotional - he knows what’s coming. After 9 nights in hospital fighting for my life, I’m bloody emotional too. I’m totally traumatised.

I beg you, don’t feel got at by the good doctor’s words. I caught Covid and I have no idea whatsoever how I managed to do that. He doesn’t mean it’s my fault as I had tried my very best to be careful. He means we MUST all be as careful as we can possibly be.

So many are going to die over the next few weeks. Please ensure it is not you or someone you love.