If this doesn’t make you think twice about breaking COVID rules....

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Then nothing will......🤬😡
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55479018

In a few hours time lots of idiots will be turning up at A&E after an alcohol fuelled fight, they will be able to see first hand how the hospitals are copping.

The constructive way forward is to change your own behaviour as much as you personally can. If everyone took this seriously the numbers in ICU would be lower and it would make a real difference. It might save your life or save the lives of the people you love.

We can't know what others did or did not do but we can take responsibility for ourselves.

Hope we all have a much better year next year than last (especially the HCPs).

And take care.

Does any odd person in a supermarket not wearing a mask really matter though when in classrooms there isn't a single mask worn?.. There are all sorts other places where students mix on site.

@PandemicPavalova

Does any odd person in a supermarket not wearing a mask really matter though when in classrooms there isn't a single mask worn?.. There are all sorts other places where students mix on site.

The individual person not wearing a mask/meeting a friend indoors/popping round to visit someone etc doesn't matter at all, but cumulative effect is huge.

@ICUDoc and @endofthelinefinally

Thank you for everything you and your colleagues are doing

Ditto

@RiojaRose

calling him a knob and dismissing his heartfelt pleas is childish and ignorant.

I wholeheartedly agree. I can’t help thinking it’s the petulance people exhibit when they’re called out for doing something they know is wrong.

Seconding. My friend works at North Middlesex and their adult outpatients has just become a COVID ward. They are desperately understaffed. All their kids are going to GOSH. This is real, and it’s serious. Good for him for standing up and saying it.

@Pringlespop

I was in Tesco earlier. Loads of teens/20's buying up alcohol and party stuff (balloons etc). I'm sure they will all be at home with their parents.

People who are already obeying the rules will continue to, whilst those that don't care will continue to flout them.

I can understand why young people would be unwilling to give up their lives for a year when they themselves aren't at risk. I can also understand why a Doctor whose work life is made terrible by the virus would want to limit spread.
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I agree with you, it makes you angry when you see people flout the rules. I’m seeing more snd more not wearing masks. I saw about 10 polish men in Tesco tonight with one trolly, 4 bottles of vodka, beer and about twenty bananas. Obviously having a wee party.

Yep I agree with you! Lots of teens will be partying!

@ICUDoc

Another ICU consultant in London here. It’s truly upsetting some if the vile comments on here directed against one of my colleagues, who I know personally not to be a ‘knob’ but an extremely caring, hard working individual who may have said some very hard hitting, emotional words, but they came from a place of heartfelt desperation at trying to impart to all those people knowingly and repeatedly breaking the rules to stop. He didn’t target anyone who can’t wear a mask at work (for example teachers) or for another reason... nor did he blame his patients for catching COVID... only those who knowingly and repeatedly break the rules and have a blatent disregard of the consequences.

And to clarify, we are seeing families ‘wiped out. Here is my list of patients in the past two months... and that’s my personal list... my colleagues will have had more:

• a wife, her 2 sons dead and another still in ICU. All had attended the same funeral
• a husband and wife dead.
• another husband and wife dead
• a son and mother dead
• an ICU nurse desperately ill with COVID on ICU and her husband has died also from it. She doesn’t know yet.

And age-wise, he is spot on. We are seeing so many in the age group 40-60 now. And younger. From memory of the past week, I’ve given critical care therapy to a 27, 34, 37, 38, 44 and 49 year old.

I honestly don’t know what ‘agenda’ people think we have.

Thank you so much for everything you are doing, under the most appalling conditions.

I will continue to follow the rules as best I can when not in my classroom to support you all, and I know a lot of us will.

Thank you to this doctor and all the other medical staff working non stop looking after our loved ones. I can totally see his point. We have to stop blaming the government and take responsibility for our actions. Over the months and especially in December have seen so many posts on social media of those demanding their rights as free people to do what they like. These are the ones he is talking about. The ones that refuse to abide by any rules. Who refuse to take responsibility for their actions then have the temerity to moan about the government or anyone else but themselves. Think alot of people should grow up and stop acting like spoilt children and face facts. This isn't nice. We are all suffering but we all have a choice and mine is to do whatever it takes to keep my family, friends and the wider public safe x

I went back to work today. One of my colleagues (63) was not in. She’s unwell and getting tested.
However it transpires that since I last saw her on the 16th December (from the other side of the office), her daughter and son in law are both also very unwell and her daughter’s MIL died on Monday. They’d all been ‘mixing’.
This is in Kent.

Don’t know if this has been posted already, apologies if so www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.lbc.co.uk/news/intensive-care-doctor-no-mask-covid-treat-london/

I listened to the doctor and I actually thought he came across really well.

Clearly exasperated with everything. He's working his arse off to try and save people and fucking morons can't just stay at home and miss one new year's eve.

We need the children in this country to be educated so that there are more doctors in the future.

People falling back on the 'well schools are opening' line' just undermines the hard work the doctors and nurses are doing.

@ICUDoc

Another ICU consultant in London here. It’s truly upsetting some if the vile comments on here directed against one of my colleagues, who I know personally not to be a ‘knob’ but an extremely caring, hard working individual who may have said some very hard hitting, emotional words, but they came from a place of heartfelt desperation at trying to impart to all those people knowingly and repeatedly breaking the rules to stop. He didn’t target anyone who can’t wear a mask at work (for example teachers) or for another reason... nor did he blame his patients for catching COVID... only those who knowingly and repeatedly break the rules and have a blatent disregard of the consequences.

And to clarify, we are seeing families ‘wiped out. Here is my list of patients in the past two months... and that’s my personal list... my colleagues will have had more:

• a wife, her 2 sons dead and another still in ICU. All had attended the same funeral
• a husband and wife dead.
• another husband and wife dead
• a son and mother dead
• an ICU nurse desperately ill with COVID on ICU and her husband has died also from it. She doesn’t know yet.

And age-wise, he is spot on. We are seeing so many in the age group 40-60 now. And younger. From memory of the past week, I’ve given critical care therapy to a 27, 34, 37, 38, 44 and 49 year old.

I honestly don’t know what ‘agenda’ people think we have.

@ICUDoc Thank you I am appalled at the idiots who break rules and make your lives harder and at the arrogance on here from those who think they know better than you and your colleagues

I spoke to an ICU doctor from Lancashire recently who said he is appalled at the numbers affected by family transmissions, so clearly mixing far more than is acceptable. He said they will regularly get a positive case and, rather than testing being needed for just a few people under one roof, contacts run to adult brothers, adult sisters, in-laws, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. There is no excuse for 20ish contacts in these times and no wonder it is spreading as it is

That doctor, I agree, came across really well. No "scare-mongering." Just telling it how it is, like the poster above.

@Aprilrainbow

In a few hours time lots of idiots will be turning up at A&E after an alcohol fuelled fight, they will be able to see first hand how the hospitals are copping.

Is it wrong of me to kind of hope they will have a long wait?

It is not an extreme attitude to think that telling people that they have blood on their hands for, say, going to work in a meat factory, is counter-productive, unhelpful and scaremongering

Surely he's talking about the Covid deniers/ anti-maskers/house partiers who are flouting every single guideline...not the person who HAS to go to work?

Surely he's talking about the Covid deniers/ anti-maskers/house partiers who are flouting every single guideline...not the person who HAS to go to work?

Of course he is, but because he had a short time to speak and didn't spell it out for the morons amongst us, they can deliberately misunderstand in order to delegitimise him and not feel quite so uncomfortable.

Meanwhile, almost 1000 people dead in 24 hours.

It’s incredibly sad and I do believe it of course it’s horrendous. why do we always JUST blame the action of others though? Do the covid doctors never think ‘well if the whole family have it and they arent one household so they’re clearly not following the rules so what do they expect?’. It makes it no less horrendous but if people are becoming ill and dying due to their own behaviour during a pandemic why blame everyone else? And I KNOW there are plenty of people who follow the rules and won’t get ill I don’t mean those poor people who are genuinely victims.

@singingstones

Surely he's talking about the Covid deniers/ anti-maskers/house partiers who are flouting every single guideline...not the person who HAS to go to work?

Of course he is, but because he had a short time to speak and didn't spell it out for the morons amongst us, they can deliberately misunderstand in order to delegitimise him and not feel quite so uncomfortable.

I think you've hit the nail on the head

@maddiemookins16mum

I went back to work today. One of my colleagues (63) was not in. She’s unwell and getting tested. However it transpires that since I last saw her on the 16th December (from the other side of the office), her daughter and son in law are both also very unwell and her daughter’s MIL died on Monday. They’d all been ‘mixing’. This is in Kent.

Some mix for child care purposes...

I am amazed and shocked that so many people have interpreted what this doctor said as him in some way blaming patients for getting COVID or blaming anyone but those not following the rules for helping spread the disease.

It's truly staggering that anyone could listen to everything he said, or read the transcript, and come up with anything but the idea that he's desperately wanting people to understand how important it is to follow the rules.

You'd have to be an idiot to take anything different from it.

Sadly there are a lot of idiots.
My heart goes out to my icu colleagues.

I have been following all the rules, and am hugely worried for and sympathetic to those in hospitals battling to save people's lives.

But how can I continue to follow the "stay home and don't mix" rule when I'm expected back in a classroom next week? How come the rule doesn't matter for that? (and the bottom line is, either it's an important rule to follow or it's not. "Reasons" don't alter that fact).