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Neighbour has people staying over for a week now

123 replies

spababe · 30/12/2020 09:11

We are Tier 2.
Visitors arrived the day it was announced London was going into Tier 4 and neighbour happily told DH that visitors had 'got out before lockdown'.
Neighbour only moved in this Summer from Surrey.
She is on her own (normally) so I suppose they formed a support bubble.
Must be a few of them though as there are now 3 cars on the drive instead of 1.
WWYD? Anything?

OP posts:
NYNY211 · 30/12/2020 15:15

staying for a week and visiting the garden centre and a local cafe and shops etc spreads the virus and adds to the load on our local NHS services.

Do you have a job OP? If you do is this how your spending your free time? It doesn’t entitle you to police other people it’s not your job in life regardless of how much tax you pay.

Nnkk · 30/12/2020 15:28

They’re not flouting the rules though.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 30/12/2020 15:39

'It occurs to me that some people don’t object so much to the idea of support for those in need - they object to them actually enjoying the company of those they are gaining support from / giving support to.'

No for the trillionth time i object to people abusing the rules and having multi 'support' bubble/ multi household meet ups because their situation is of course far more special than everyone else's. Genuine cases fine. The majority are flouters as we all know. Oh but look tier 4 for everyone, the government are 'dictators'!!

Sitt · 30/12/2020 15:45

“ people coming from Tier 4 to Tier 2 and staying for a week and visiting the garden centre and a local cafe and shops etc spreads the virus and adds to the load on our local NHS services”

Are they doing this? Or are they sticking to tier 4 regs whilst there?

Sitt · 30/12/2020 15:46

GetOffYourHighHorse You have no idea which is which when observing individuals, but it’s your blood pressure rather than mine

Nnkk · 30/12/2020 15:49

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'It occurs to me that some people don’t object so much to the idea of support for those in need - they object to them actually enjoying the company of those they are gaining support from / giving support to.'

No for the trillionth time i object to people abusing the rules and having multi 'support' bubble/ multi household meet ups because their situation is of course far more special than everyone else's. Genuine cases fine. The majority are flouters as we all know. Oh but look tier 4 for everyone, the government are 'dictators'!!

How do you know looking from the outside which it is?
LastRoloIsMine · 30/12/2020 15:54

What are genuine cases?

MargosKaftan · 30/12/2020 16:01

Isn't it more likely they've moved, rather than are a support bubble?

If your neighbour has space for them all and home schooling is coming, moving house so they all live together in the house that has space for them all makes sense. Much more than staying in separate houses and popping back and forth as support bubbles.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 30/12/2020 16:03

'How do you know looking from the outside which it is?'

Hmm well I'm not psychic sadly so I can't tell on here just anecdotally what I witness irl. There will be many reading this who are all in multi household 'support bubbles' all seriously believing they are 'entitled'. Just admit it, you're flouters and you couldn't give a fuck.

Genuine single household cases will be few and far between. It's the faux outrage that is as bad as everyone's 'bubbles'.

LastRoloIsMine · 30/12/2020 16:07

Get

My sister her husband and 2 DC are staying with my mum 3 plus days a week. Sometimes seperatly sometimes together for the past 5 weeks.
I and my 4 DC have also done the same over the past 5 weeks. We are all in a support bubble.
The reason is because my dad is dying of cancer and currently on a hospital bed in the dining room.

I just want to check if this is flouting the rules?

BritWifeinUSA · 30/12/2020 16:07

So you’re panicking about “spreading the virus” because people from Tier 4 might be going to your local garden center but your husband is getting close enough to the neighbor to discuss her living situation abd house guests with her? Stay inside avd don’t go anywhere near here if you’re that terrified of a virus with this survival rate. And get a life while you’re at it.

Laughnaff · 30/12/2020 16:22

If people are breaking the rules continuously, they should be making people sign a declaration saying they won’t be receiving medical treatment if contacting Covid. Now we all know this isn’t going to happen but it’s annoying that hospitals are making decisions who to treat and who won’t be receiving treatment as they are so overwhelmed at the moment.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 30/12/2020 16:26

'We are all in a support bubble. The reason is because my dad is dying of cancer and currently on a hospital bed in the dining room.'

I'm so sorry about your dad Flowers.

I've said throughout genuine cases, disabled people or those terminally ill are of course different.

The thing is many (anecdotally) are using 'support bubbles' as a excuse to abuse the exemptions and flout. We all know it.

ClaudiaWankleman · 30/12/2020 16:28

I think it’s disgusting how many people on this thread are willing to go out of their way to inform on the others. The COVID stasi are out in force.

Why can’t people mind their own business?

GetOffYourHighHorse · 30/12/2020 16:33

'The COVID stasi are out in force. Why can’t people mind their own business?'

🙄

Because it is our business. It affects us all what with it being a highly infectious disease.

Meanwhile on another thread folk are up in arms about tier 4. They want it both ways to carry on as normal, don't want to be told what to do yet are outraged at the soaring numbers.

LastRoloIsMine · 30/12/2020 16:36

I've said throughout genuine cases, disabled people or those terminally ill are of course different.

But how can neighbours tell?

My parents are very private people and live on a large street. Only their immediate neighbour knows whats going on. The rest I suppose just see multiple cars and people turning up and staying for days. They could assume we are just flouting the rules and report us as how would they know?
Do you really think what my family needs right now is the police at the door threatening to fine us?

Againstmachine · 30/12/2020 16:40

That's the dilemma though

There is no dilemma shut the curtains and mind your own business.

Nnkk · 30/12/2020 17:17

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'How do you know looking from the outside which it is?'

Hmm well I'm not psychic sadly so I can't tell on here just anecdotally what I witness irl. There will be many reading this who are all in multi household 'support bubbles' all seriously believing they are 'entitled'. Just admit it, you're flouters and you couldn't give a fuck.

Genuine single household cases will be few and far between. It's the faux outrage that is as bad as everyone's 'bubbles'.

We are a single bubble. Me, my kids and my aunt.

We are also allowed to visit my parent as they are actively dying. Or will be once they’re out home with a care package in place. They’ve had unsuccessful cancer surgery.

How the hell would you know that looking from the outside?

Nnkk · 30/12/2020 17:19

And if you dared challenge me or my kids about why we were at my dads or my aunts (with whom we bubbled when my father became suddenly hospitalised as she was bubbled with him before this) I would tell you to fuck off it was none of your bloody business and go ahead and report me to the police.

Completely and utterly none of your fucking business.

Sitt · 30/12/2020 17:22

GetOffYourHighHorse Until you are appointed legal approver of all permits to form support bubbles, your opinion of what is an appropriate situation is neither here nor there. Your judgement is misplaced because you just don’t know what is going on for people. Yes, we all know about the infectious disease and we all know about people “flouting” (gosh that word sounds ridiculous these days). But in terms of the OP’s neighbours, there is nothing to be done and nothing should be done because she has not appeared to have observed anything not within the rules anyway.

Nnkk · 30/12/2020 17:28

So, @GetOffYourHighHorse do we email you and you issue us a certificate of approval, signed and sealed? Or how does us getting you to approve us as genuine work? Do we meet your standard?

Do tell. I’m all ears.

Equalityumber · 30/12/2020 17:56

How do you know they’ve gone to the local cafe and garden centre, are you following them?

MellowYellow101 · 30/12/2020 18:52

@spababe

That's the dilemma though - I understand that the neighbour might need mental support etc but I also understand that people coming from Tier 4 to Tier 2 and staying for a week and visiting the garden centre and a local cafe and shops etc spreads the virus and adds to the load on our local NHS services. Those of you who have replied slagging me off have not understood the dilemma - that flouting the rules is all of our business because it affects us all.
No, you still need to mind your own business.
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