As the majority of DC, teachers and parents of school age DC won't need hospitalisation

[Lucyandbet]

Why are so many people on MN so gleeful at the prospect of them shutting again? Aren't we focusing on the wrong age group to impose weeks/months more isolation and crappiness on? Why does everyone seem so happy at the prospect of shut schools?

As most people don't go round crashing their cars, why bother with seatbelts? I mean, what a waste of money.

You think that because I want to be safe, that makes me gleeful?

Yes but it’s all interconnected isn’t it

I think - I’m not too worried about my kids going to school and getting it, I’m sure they’d be fine
I’m not too worried about getting it myself as I’d probably be ok but there’s obviously possibility of long covid or whatever

But then j think about my lovely colleagues, yes we are distancing in the office but then sharing a kitchen and toilets

I think about the vital work visits I still have to do face to face when video calls aren’t possible. Yes I’m wearing (basic) PPE but there’s definitely still a risk I could pass it on.

Plus just the chance I could inadvertently pass it onto someone in the supermarket

So it’s just not that simple is it

You do realise there are quite a few clinically vulnerable staff and pupils in schools don’t you @Lucyandbet, and CV parents too

@Anon12345678910
Fuck the rest of them then eh? And their vulnerable family members?

This is quite an ironic attitude. People are vulnerable in other ways, not just to Coronavirus. But just as long as you and your family are ok.

So what do you suggest for COVID vulnerable families @Lucyandbet?

@Lucyandbet I'm a secondary school teacher. In normal times I love being in school. It is my life's vocation. These are not normal times.

As @mumsneedwine has asked, what is your job?

@mumsneedwine I'm a physiotherapist.
@ineedaholidaynow I suggest those families isolate as much as possible obviously.

No one is happy, but you can't unfortunately isolate those who will need hospital from the ones that won't, and so the ones who do will fill up the beds so the rest of us can't get treated. This is not something any government can countenance. I don't know why this still hasn't got through to people here. The same old arguments over and over again by the perpetually hard of thinking.

My physio is conducting phone appointments. I did get in to see her once, I was the only patient allowed in and she was the only physio, we both wore masks throughout and there was much hand gelling.
I'd take those odds to be honest.

@ItsIgginningtolookalotlikeXmas

My physio is conducting phone appointments. I did get in to see her once, I was the only patient allowed in and she was the only physio, we both wore masks throughout and there was much hand gelling. I'd take those odds to be honest.

Same with DH's physio....

Because DH has just spent Christmas away from us as he's working on a Covid ward and DS is shielding. Because he said yesterday was the busiest day in his hospital in the twelve years he's worked there. Because I'm a member of SLT feeling like I'm putting my staff and students, and all of their families at risk. Because life in school last term felt impossible and I'm scared about what's coming. Because DH has lost three colleagues and one of our kids has lost a parent to Covid. I could go on.

Because it's not always about the person who catches it, rather who they can then pass it on to. Grandparents? Passing it to key worker parents who work in a care home or another care setting?

There's a bigger picture than 'I'll be fine if I get it, so fuck everyone else.'

our school physio and other therapy staff's risk assessments are in another league to the standard school one for teaching and care staff! They have been issued with additional PPE and most work being done remotely. When they do come in to see a child in person they are hardly recognisable with the gear on. Why iscthatvi wonder?

Wow, they are treating people in ambulances now, sky news! Romford greater London... 8 thousand calls a day, usually get 5 thousand calls a day.

That's all sorts of patients not just covid patients.

No one is 'gleeful' about any of this.

Yes, yes let's shield all the 'vulnerable' and we can all crack on....who are 'the vulnerable'?

So sick of this bullshit

Allowing schools to remain open is going to result in thousands of teachers and parents dying and millions of DC being left permanently disabled by Long COVID.

Schools should close right through until next September to save lives and keep people safe. Alongside a proper lockdown enforced by the army until April 1st.

If all NHS workers and teachers who are vulnerable shielded for the foreseeable we'd have a huge problem anyway!
The whole thing makes me feel sick at the moment and seeing so many people imply my life has little to no worth isn't helping things.

I have to have phone consultations with my physio. They’ve never even physically assessed me. Asked me a bunch of questions over the phone and then sent me a pictorial plan of exercises to do. 4 months on, I’m still in agony and in 2 months will have another phone conversation. Now that is a job you can’t do without seeing people...but is currently being done without seeing people.

DH is only in his 40s and ended up in hospital. Lots of similar age people and younger on the ward.

I will gladly keep my children at home indefinitely. But I need to work and my job is intense. So I would need the teachers to actually fucking teach them this time.

Last time round they uploaded a couple of worksheets and then posted lengthy emails about what a lovely time they were having teaching their own child/baking/gardening.

@LitPeach
Your hyperbole helps no one

@ragged

There are enough threads about school open/closed issues already. I don't think there's anything different to say.

If the world was like MN,
Remain would have won in a landslide.
Tories would have no hope of being in power anywhere.
Babies would never get ears pierced.
All children would be "above average" academically.
Smacking your child would attract a prison sentence.
Everyone would be extremely fit by cleaning their home 16 hours/day.
Except the ones who remain stubbornly obese by eating > 600 kcal/day.

I'm just grateful MN is so unlike the rest of world, tbh.

So true!!

[quote Lucyandbet]@mumsneedwine I'm a physiotherapist.
@ineedaholidaynow I suggest those families isolate as much as possible obviously.[/quote]
And will you be paying the fines those families accrue for not sending DC in? Helping those DC catch up because there's no adequate online provision?

I suggest those families isolate as much as possible obviously

My vulnerable child needs an education as much as the next child. Why should he not be able to go to school with everyone else? Why does his education not matter and everyone else’s does?