Not a single person following covid rules

[ruby4ever]

I kid you not, I know no one in real life that is actually adhering to COVID rules. Everyone on my social media/friends have openly celebrated Xmas yesterday despite majority of them living in tier 4 and mixing up to 8 household in one house. Everyone I know and even those I follow on social media, all got with family and celebrated like any other year. Even today everyone is mixing multiple households. I haven't seen a lot of family members as am scared catching anything and passing it on to my family. I feel like the only people following rules are those on mn!
It's got me annoyed that if everyone else is acting normal and are perfectly fine, not spreading anything then why the hell am I following the rules??? These same people didn't follow the lockdown rules either in March, they still mixed multiple households. There are elderly and vulnerable amongst them and (thankfully) no one has actually caught corona. I myself forget about the virus as I no longer watch the news, except when I go out and see everyone in masks. It's really got me thinking today

@Gwenhwyfar doesn't anyone listen to scientists anymore? millions of diagnoses from other diseases have been missed from locking down and "protecting the bloody NHS" It's absolutely disgusting! Don't you see the collateral damage to lockdown? Seriously? The amount of articles I've read about ppl dying needlessly because they couldn't get treatment or diagnosis is alarming! The amount of times I've read that ppl couldn't be with their dying loved ones and they had to die alone is absolutely unforgiveable - there is simply NO perspective anywhere! We have no recovery/survival figures, yet nearly every other country does - we have no healthcare for other illnesses - picking up self-filling kits from dentists - it's become a massive overreaction. 5yr average respiratory virus figures are the same.
What are we doing!!

@Gwenhwyfar

I know. I wish it did.

@ruby4ever

I kid you not, I know no one in real life that is actually adhering to COVID rules. Everyone on my social media/friends have openly celebrated Xmas yesterday despite majority of them living in tier 4 and mixing up to 8 household in one house. Everyone I know and even those I follow on social media, all got with family and celebrated like any other year. Even today everyone is mixing multiple households. I haven't seen a lot of family members as am scared catching anything and passing it on to my family. I feel like the only people following rules are those on mn! It's got me annoyed that if everyone else is acting normal and are perfectly fine, not spreading anything then why the hell am I following the rules??? These same people didn't follow the lockdown rules either in March, they still mixed multiple households. There are elderly and vulnerable amongst them and (thankfully) no one has actually caught corona. I myself forget about the virus as I no longer watch the news, except when I go out and see everyone in masks. It's really got me thinking today

Wow!

Do any of them need a new friend? All mine are loving the roolz.

Only those who have followed the rules have made a big point of their zoom Christmases.

No big fuss, no rule breaking. Nothing to put on Facebook anyway.

The rules are intended to keep infections down to a manageable level in the population as a whole
I am living more strictly than the rules require because I want to make sure I don't get it
In my location I think most people are being pretty strict

I've given up looking at Facebook these last couple of days, so many people that I thought in high regard of, disregarding the rules - photos of Boxing Day parties etc. Friend meeting up with two mum friends on Christmas Eve, huddled up on a few photos - someone asked should they be doing that and her response was "I just want it over with"
It's a pain in the arse and I'm as fed up with it as the next person, but come on..

Pretty much everyone I know is following the rules. I'm the only person in my immediate family who travelled as myself and my sister are both single adults so we are in a support bubble. We cancelled the original plans to go to what became a tier 4 area and two other households stayed put.

I don't know of anyone who is blatantly ignoring the rules - have seen no evidence on social media anyway.

[quote VenusTiger]@Gwenhwyfar doesn't anyone listen to scientists anymore? millions of diagnoses from other diseases have been missed from locking down and "protecting the bloody NHS" It's absolutely disgusting! Don't you see the collateral damage to lockdown? Seriously? The amount of articles I've read about ppl dying needlessly because they couldn't get treatment or diagnosis is alarming! The amount of times I've read that ppl couldn't be with their dying loved ones and they had to die alone is absolutely unforgiveable - there is simply NO perspective anywhere! We have no recovery/survival figures, yet nearly every other country does - we have no healthcare for other illnesses - picking up self-filling kits from dentists - it's become a massive overreaction. 5yr average respiratory virus figures are the same.
What are we doing!![/quote]
Why the hell is that directed at me. Do you think I'm Boris Johnson or something. Of course lockdown is awful, but unless they can sort out the NHS problems, they can't do anything else. They can't be making decisions between people who are equally able to withstand intubation on which one gets treated and which doesn't so at the moment they have no better solution than lockdown.
I can't see that page now so I don't know who made the comment, but I answered someone who seemed to think we were being told that lockdown was about preventing deaths in the under 60s when it's clearly not.

Most people I know stuck UK the rules (we are tier 4) I saw my Dsis outside at a park (we both wore masks) and exchanged presents there.

@VenusTiger

You are obviously one of those granny murderers

There’s no point trying to be rational about all of this, the hysteria is too much. So many people have lost their minds

I've seen so many posts on facebook of people blatantly breaking the rules - 4/5 households together. Makes me wish I hadn't bothered following the rules - my family live away (Wales Tier 4) and I so desperately wanted to see them this Christmas. Plus we had quarantined in advance. My feeling is that the majority are now ignoring the rules.

@Gwenhwyfar you quoted my post and responded to what I said?? that's why I directed my "conversation with you" back. It was from MY post.

@frustrationcentral

I've given up looking at Facebook these last couple of days, so many people that I thought in high regard of, disregarding the rules - photos of Boxing Day parties etc. Friend meeting up with two mum friends on Christmas Eve, huddled up on a few photos - someone asked should they be doing that and her response was "I just want it over with" It's a pain in the arse and I'm as fed up with it as the next person, but come on..

People are capable of making their own assessments. I would say with a high level of certainty that none of those people have a new continuous cough, a fever or have lost their taste and smell

They don’t have the killer disease.

At what point in history have we ever quarantined healthy people?

My tier 4 experience is the opposite. Everyone I know has followed the rules, even though for many it meant their Christmas plans were totally ruined. And I haven't seen a single thing on facebook that looks like rule breaking. I'm not naive enough to think there hasn't been any at all but certainly people have had more sense than to post it on social media.

[quote VenusTiger]@Gwenhwyfar you quoted my post and responded to what I said?? that's why I directed my "conversation with you" back. It was from MY post.[/quote]
Yes, but you went on a rant about lockdown with me tagged as if it was my fault!

@hamstersarse

I know a few people still following the rules, not many though

It’s no surprise really seeing as they don’t make any difference to anything

You're STILL peddling this utter nonsense?! Jesus, I'd have though enough people had explained it to you by now that you'd understand. Obviously not.

"I would say with a high level of certainty that none of those people have a new continuous cough, a fever or have lost their taste and smell

They don’t have the killer disease.

At what point in history have we ever quarantined healthy people?"

Back in the 80s should we have told people with HIV not to bother with condoms unless they're skinny or dying of pneumonia. After all, they looked healthy!

Everyone I know in real life and on sm (tiers 2 and 4 mainly)apart from one friend who had family to stay from tier 4 appear to be following the rules. But then if they weren't I assume they wouldn't plaster it online anyway

@hamstersarse I'm so utterly appalled at ppl, it's getting out of hand. T-cell immunity (99. something percent) is the ONLY way to "fight" a SARs virus - no vaccine has EVER been successful in stopping it. Why can't ppl go and read the data and the facts - Pfizer themselves have said, any vaccine will NOT stop you from contracting the virus or spreading it. I'm just fed up hamster - educated ppl freaking out just because it's got a name and it's all over the news - it's a SARs virus and I've always kept my parents away from us if any of us (usually my son) is poorly with anything, be it cold, tummy bug, cough etc. as that's what you normally would do. A flu or even a bad cold is harmful to vulnerable and elderly (in fact can be harmful to very young and pregnant too), this is all hyped up and it's got to stop. That is why the OP is seeing so many ppl "not following the rules" it's because they've woken up to the fact it's all been hyped up - Whitty said back in March that the majority of ppl who got Covid would have mild symptoms and that has turned out to be the case.

@MumOfPsuedoAdult Support bubbles are still fine regardless of tiers

@hamstersarse , I would hope they didn't have symptoms, but I thought this was contagious before they appeared? Crack on with meeting up with friends, but then squashing together to have photos and moan about wanting it all over is a bit of a joke

Well im sure some will pay the price in January sadly

I wonder if a lot of mumsnetters who say everyone in their area are following rules are newly in Tier 4, from Tier 2, so are more inclined to follow new rules than those who have been in Tier 3 for 3 months already and haven't seen relatives for a long while?