Not a single person following covid rules

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I kid you not, I know no one in real life that is actually adhering to COVID rules. Everyone on my social media/friends have openly celebrated Xmas yesterday despite majority of them living in tier 4 and mixing up to 8 household in one house. Everyone I know and even those I follow on social media, all got with family and celebrated like any other year. Even today everyone is mixing multiple households. I haven't seen a lot of family members as am scared catching anything and passing it on to my family. I feel like the only people following rules are those on mn!
It's got me annoyed that if everyone else is acting normal and are perfectly fine, not spreading anything then why the hell am I following the rules??? These same people didn't follow the lockdown rules either in March, they still mixed multiple households. There are elderly and vulnerable amongst them and (thankfully) no one has actually caught corona. I myself forget about the virus as I no longer watch the news, except when I go out and see everyone in masks. It's really got me thinking today

It is abundantly clear to me that too many people are not following the rules and are putting others at risk as a result.

What we need is a proper total lockdown until at least April 1st. No one leaves home at all unless a key worker. Supermarkets closed with the army delivering food parcels. No walks in the park or popping to the contener shop for wine

I’d also like to see all schools and childcare facilities closed until September at the earliest.

People have shown that they cannot be trusted to exercise personal responsibility and use their privilege to leave home sensibly.

This privilege now has to be withdrawn with everyone staying indoors at all times.

@LitPeach I assume you are joking?

We're following the rules because we don't want to be part of the problem.

I accept that it's easier for us to do so though because it's no great hardship to do so.

I accept also that some of the rules make little sense and appear to be the result of some sort of botched civil servant compromise between scientific advice and "policy" considerations, so if I were faced with a conflict then I would probably instead follow the science.

[quote Nerdygirl]@LitPeach I assume you are joking?[/quote]
I hope so

I assume you are joking?

As I said on another thread, I no longer know what’s parody and what isn’t on here.

Not at all @Nerdygirl. We would soon eradicate this virus if everyone stayed at home for 3 months. Our half-arsed 'lockdowns' have got us nowhere.

We need the army on the streets issuing £10,000 fines to non key workers caught outside their homes. Jail the fuckers for a second offence.

There would soon be far fewer people in need of gin or a walk round the park

@LitPeach

Not at all *@Nerdygirl*. We would soon eradicate this virus if everyone stayed at home for 3 months. Our half-arsed 'lockdowns' have got us nowhere.

We need the army on the streets issuing £10,000 fines to non key workers caught outside their homes. Jail the fuckers for a second offence.

There would soon be far fewer people in need of gin or a walk round the park

What a load of bullshit! Your 'solution' would just move the problem elsewhere - ie to a mental health pandemic.

@LitPeach

Not at all *@Nerdygirl*. We would soon eradicate this virus if everyone stayed at home for 3 months. Our half-arsed 'lockdowns' have got us nowhere.

We need the army on the streets issuing £10,000 fines to non key workers caught outside their homes. Jail the fuckers for a second offence.

There would soon be far fewer people in need of gin or a walk round the park

Wow! Place-marking because this is going to be brilliant

Wow that is the utterly staggering that you want that much of a police state for a virus that most will survive. Years of underfunding in healthcare and poverty because of inept governments has led to a health crisis and a lack of capacity that covid has helped expose.

I strongly suspect some embellishment here Op. You cannot possibly know the finer details of how many people were at other people’s homes (despite your Fakebook stalking).

Be angry at the chronic underfunding and put your energy into lobbying the government to invest not try and criminalise society for trying to live a well rounded life

@maddiemookins16mum yes I can know actually! Perhaps you know very little people in real life. I know exactly who these people are, who their friends are, family are, so it's not hard to know how many household has gathered in one house. It's not rocket science. Honestly some of you online people are just another type of weird. Always second guessing what the OP means

Why you getting your knickers in a twist over it 🤷‍♂️

@LitPeach

You need help

It's not rocket science

It’s not science of any discipline. It’s ludicrous, scare-mongering and inaccurate extrapolation from a small and unrepresentative sample, seen through a filter of confirmation bias.

We cancelled our Xmas plans (Tier 4) so have seen no-one. So have most people I know. Except one set of neighbours who've had different family and friends visiting each day. It feels a bit like a kick in the teeth. I'm not sure how I feel about them now.

Everyone I know is following rules still
We saw in-laws on Xmas day in their garden as they didn’t want us in house, my family are 500 miles away In Scotland they followed the rules too. None of our friends have seen anyone for months either. Most of our friends are 2 adult 2 children as are we so we struggle to see them

Tier 3 here

We have been following the rules and so have my friends, the people opposite have currently got.people over however. (I swear I'm not a curtain twitcher, I was taking the recycling out as they arrived!)

I said no to my DSSs late 20s stopping Christmas Eve, but they stopped at their mother's last night with their girlfriends and sound like they had a great time. Feeling a bit meh as they thought we were over reacting and now I wish we just had them over.

I think most people I know follow the spirit of the rules if not the letter.

We are about to meet friends for a walk. I will walk with my friend, DD with hers and DS and Dh together - we did the same yesterday. Not I think strictly allowed but done so we can have the needed interaction as safely as possible and broken up into pairs as per the rules.

My parents are our childcare bubble and I think again we have blurred the lines of the rules but we need them in our house so what is 2 hours in Sunday going to matter (we have all just recovered from it anyway)

Litpeach isn’t joking and I think doesn’t realise her prevention would be far worse than what it would cure. It’s a balancing act

The vast majority are following the rules where I am. Everyone cancelled Christmas plans and nothing on fb I can see even though we are tier 3 and were allowed one day

@LitPeach

Italy had much more stringent shut down than we did . But they are now in a worse position. I just can’t see it working unless all international borders were closed and all other countries did the same .

@LitPeach

I think what you're suggesting is a bit extreme but I get where you are coming from

People have shown that they cannot be trusted to exercise personal responsibility and use their privilege to leave home sensibly

^This. Not most people (who I think are following the rules), but some definitely

Honestly, I also get where @LitPeach is coming from. I have a lot of family in Australia. They were subject to hard lockdowns, closed internal and external borders, etc but are now enjoying a huge amount of freedom.

I have to agree, I saw so many people openly post pictures on Facebook of multiple families celebrating.

I did break the rules on Christmas night. Had been texting a neighbour and they were sad as usually have lots of family round so offered a door step drink to celebrate. Come evening he invited us round to his garden for a drink with them. Now this is against the rules but I did think it was a bit daft that we could stand at front of house with (our own) glass of wine but not in back.

Anyway, as soon as I got there he asked me in. I didn't go in and sat on chair but it transpired they had been to his in laws where his partners mum, sibling and nephew also went - 4 households of 7 adults. I stayed 20 mins and went back home feeling a bit uncomfortable. I went round thinking I was doing something nice for someone who hadn't seen anyone all day except themselves to find they hadn't.

We could have legitimately had my pil round for lunch but felt it wasn't safe so they stayed at home and it was just us and DC's.