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Honestly, I wish people would think before going crazy over the rules

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WankPuffins · 23/12/2020 11:07

Just a little rant really.

Dh went to pick up my dad this morning. T4 area, 150 miles away.

My dad is in our support bubble. We see no one else, he sees no one else. We've all been isolating for nearly two weeks as a precaution. It's allowed.

My dad lives in a little development of housing for over 55's. As they were loading the car, two of the neighbours started bashing on windows shouting that it's tier 4, it's illegal to take him. One visiting carer started shouting from a doorstep that she was going to report him to the police, that she has taken the number plate.

Dh did very calmly call over that he's in a support bubble that it's allowed. He said she didn't listen just kept on shouting.

Fucks sake.

I now have a very upset 86 year old sat on my sofa. Dh said he was shaking all the way down and is dreading going home.

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WankPuffins · 23/12/2020 11:08

I'm going to print out something from the gov website for him to take home so he can show people if they give him any trouble.

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Hollyhead · 23/12/2020 11:10

I agree, your poor Dad, I hope you have a nice time once he’s calmed down.

Brysonette · 23/12/2020 11:11

Printing something out is a good idea.
I agree it's frustrating, what did they think you'd do anyway? Just say 'oh yeah, forgot about Covid, we'll just pop him back in his house'.
I'm sorry for your Dad Sad

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WankPuffins · 23/12/2020 11:12

It's lucky I didn't collect him.
I've had a really awful few weeks and I might have gone full on fishwife Blush (very unlike me and I probably wouldn't have, but it's made me very angry).

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suitsnot · 23/12/2020 11:14

It’s disgusting OP. People are uneducated and believe they are holier than thou. Gives these people something to focus on for a change.

MrsFrisbyMouse · 23/12/2020 11:16

People are scared and also getting the 'rules' from inaccurate sources. No one seems to read the actual guidance.

My sister-in-law (who is in a support bubble with her parents who live further away), had cancelled going to them for Christmas (despite the fact she lives alone, has been totally isolating now for the last few weeks - (as have her parents) and is therefore no risk to them at all) because she didn't think she was 'allowed'. (Added to the fact she was in a passive aggressive strop with us because we hadn't been sympathetic to her situation - despite the fact we just assumed the plans hadn't changed because the rules still allowed for her to be with them at Christmas.) Xmas Hmm

Everyone is seems is set to full on accusatory mode and making rules up as they go along.

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WankPuffins · 23/12/2020 11:21

Dh is currently sat googling the rule and showing him to reassure him.

I know people are scared but my god. That was ridiculous.

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ThisThreadCouldOutMe · 23/12/2020 11:23

If I had a pound for everytime I was told I wasn't "technically" allowed a support bubble (I am) or a reason A.N other needs one more than me (none of my siblings are allowed one) then we would be having a very merry Christmas indeed!

bumbleymummy · 23/12/2020 11:24

People are really pissing me off at the moment. Your poor Dad. Hope he’s reassured by the official guidelines.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 23/12/2020 11:24

People are scared and also getting the 'rules' from inaccurate sources. No one seems to read the actual guidance. This!

Some people on my fb are quite hysterical and if they hear or read something then it must be true without any sort of critical thinking about the source of said information.

Sirzy · 23/12/2020 11:25

They shouldn’t have shouted but I can understand why people living in a complex like that are worried

freddiethegreat · 23/12/2020 11:27

I had similar to @MrsFrisbyMouse. My mother was convinced she wasn’t allowed despite support bubble etc. I had to be really quite forceful to make her listen. Now she’s decided not to come anyway, which is fine, but she needs to know that’s her personal choice.

onedayinthefuture · 23/12/2020 11:27

Stupid people with no concept of being able to think rationally who blindly follow the rules. Hope your dad is ok. They are obviously very low in intelligence.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 23/12/2020 11:28

Surely they are used to seeing you pick him up though so wouldn’t think anything of it as would know the support bubble existed?

People are scared, with that comes extreme reactions at times.

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WankPuffins · 23/12/2020 11:28

@Sirzy

They shouldn’t have shouted but I can understand why people living in a complex like that are worried
It was a carer (in a uniform tabard), who was doing most of the shouting.

And it's no different from any other street - just on that particular street of the new build development, the houses are only available to buy for over 55's.

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LadyLazaruss · 23/12/2020 11:29

@WankPuffins

Just a little rant really.

Dh went to pick up my dad this morning. T4 area, 150 miles away.

My dad is in our support bubble. We see no one else, he sees no one else. We've all been isolating for nearly two weeks as a precaution. It's allowed.

My dad lives in a little development of housing for over 55's. As they were loading the car, two of the neighbours started bashing on windows shouting that it's tier 4, it's illegal to take him. One visiting carer started shouting from a doorstep that she was going to report him to the police, that she has taken the number plate.

Dh did very calmly call over that he's in a support bubble that it's allowed. He said she didn't listen just kept on shouting.

Fucks sake.

I now have a very upset 86 year old sat on my sofa. Dh said he was shaking all the way down and is dreading going home.

Bloody hell! I'd have gone ballistic if I was your DH. Stupid twats.
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WankPuffins · 23/12/2020 11:29

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

Surely they are used to seeing you pick him up though so wouldn’t think anything of it as would know the support bubble existed?

People are scared, with that comes extreme reactions at times.

We pick him up drop him off for a visit every 5/6 weeks.
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PinkFondantFancy · 23/12/2020 11:30

People are absolute arseholes. I'm sorry OP, that's really miserable. Printing out the info is a good idea in case he gets any hassle when he goes home.

WanderingMilly · 23/12/2020 11:30

Your poor dad. People do seem to have their own version of the 'rules' without checking.
I got told this morning by a neighbour that I can't see my daughter for Christmas. Yes, I can. I'm alone, one my own, so is she, we are a support bubble, it's allowed for Christmas Day and neither of us are Tier 4. (Although I suppose the government could change it all last minute....!)

MoirasRoses · 23/12/2020 11:30

We’ve had this with my parents neighbours. We have an under one year old so have formed a bubble with them. The first day I went round for an hour with our 9 month old, a neighbour caught me & said I was breaking the law. To which I told him to goggle the new bubbles rules. He went off in a huff & later told me I was still stupid for risking my mums life. 🙄 Jog on mate.

When I dropped my 3 year old off for a play the other day, same neighbour & another one came & rang the bell & said having the 3 year old was illegal. The bubble only includes the baby & parents. Not the 3 year old as well 😂 BORE OFF. Completely wrong, we are now ‘one’ household. All children included. We again showed them evidence of this & again my mum was met with the responses that ‘if she dies, it’ll be her own fault & serve her right’ 😯 My mum was in bits. This year has brought out the absolute worst in humanity. I don’t care if you are scared. My mum legally choosing to support us with very young children after a very difficult few months post birth is her decision. It doesn’t affect anyone else. We only see each other!

PinkFondantFancy · 23/12/2020 11:31

I would have been tempted to call the police myself (wouldn't have though as that's equally a dick move but still....)

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 23/12/2020 11:33

Honestly if theyve already called the police theres little to be gained by engaging. I would say ok I'll discuss it with the police then.

PinkFondantFancy · 23/12/2020 11:33

I'm sorry @MoirasRoses that's so horrible for you and your mum. I am so shocked at how willingly people have converted to stasi mode. It's bizarre. Mind your own business!

yellowmaoampinball · 23/12/2020 11:34

Don't suppose your Dh clocked which company the carer worked for? If so, getting in touch and speaking to someone about her conduct might be in order.

To be honest, even if I thought someone was breaking the rules, at the age of 86 I couldn't begrudge them time with their family. I'm pretty sure my neighbour in her 80s is breaking the rules having her gran daughter over but she's not out and about anywhere else or hosting parties so I can't get myself remotely worked up about it.

PinkFondantFancy · 23/12/2020 11:34

@PinkFondantFancy

I would have been tempted to call the police myself (wouldn't have though as that's equally a dick move but still....)
Call the police about the abuse he was receiving from the neighbours that is, not about the bubble thing. Hope that makes sense Confused