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If freight isn't allowed in from France

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justgeton · 20/12/2020 21:37

What does this mean for our food chain?!

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Idroppedthescrewinthetuna · 20/12/2020 22:48

Boris creating tier 4 made me think 'well this new strain is crap but they don't know much so being cautious'
As news has come in all day of Countries banning flights I thought oh bummer, it must be quite bad and I have worried!
Now freight can't even enter from France, I am so scared! What is about this virus that we don't know? Is it just because it spreads quicker/easier? Or is there something we really haven't been told.

What are the tests to show it spreads quicker? Could it be that people are sick if restrictions so bot being so careful? Whatever it is, I feel like 2020 was just the beginning. The end isn't as close as we had hoped.

MrsPernicious · 20/12/2020 22:48

Yes, the new strain is most prevalent here, in the UK
nextstrain.org/groups/neherlab/ncov/S.N501?c=gt-S_501,69&label=mlabel:20B/C5388A&p=grid
Look at a map

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 20/12/2020 22:49

We should be OK if we use tuna instead of turkey and porridge instead of stuffing.

Am OK for booze and I think I have a Heston Hidden Orange Pudding in the cupboard, only 2 years out of date.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 20/12/2020 22:50

It’s the fresh vegetables that are going to be the main problem though so I am not convinced this is going to be any good for the nation’s health.

Lots of freight still comes by sea to container ports but I doubt that includes many perishables.

Staffy1 · 20/12/2020 22:50

@cologne4711

I find it suspicious that after managing the crisis well, all of a sudden Germany has cases going out of control, I know its colder there and the virus loves the cold but

Yes the new strain would explain why countries who have handled it well are now suffering too.

Yes, but careful suggesting that or you'll have people who think they are far more intelligent than you implying that you are a thick, brexit voting, conspiracy theorist.
Skipsurvey · 20/12/2020 22:50

help
we need more tinned tomatoes

DoctorTwo · 20/12/2020 22:50

Without meaning to sound thick, just how long can they hold us to ransom? As surely we are their customers, they need our money for what they export.

Why would they need our money? Compared to what they export to the rest of the world what they send here is but a drop in the ocean.

CatVsChristmasTree · 20/12/2020 22:50

@RedToothBrush

UK government: "We are sorry London. We have a mutant virus so christmas is cancelled and you aren't allowed to travel anywhere EU: "What the actual fuck?! Quick close the border" UK government: "Oh errrr we weren't talking to you. We didn't mean stopping that movement. Bastards." EU: "Er mutant virus?"
Well, quite. We can hardly blame them!
Fuckingcrustybread · 20/12/2020 22:50

@CoronaIsWatching

We will just have to model our society on the post-war years and look to the 50s for inspiration. Rationing, buying British, good quality clothes made to last, back yard allotments, sensible and functional clothes and hairstyles
😂😂 I can see and understand most of your points, no harm in going back to seasonal vegetables. Less air travel and that's a good thing but for fuck sakes Hairstyles! Will Brexit suddenly mean that hairdressers will completely lose the ability to cut hair. Do you think that leaving the EU will mean that all abilities learned in the last 40 years will fuck off and run away?
Parker231 · 20/12/2020 22:50

No one is holding anyone to ransom!

Skipsurvey · 20/12/2020 22:51

we have our own vegetables,

CherryRoulade · 20/12/2020 22:51

It might be less of an issue had they reacted when the new strain was picked up mid November. They want to be able to blame Brexit catastrophes on it.

RedToothBrush · 20/12/2020 22:53

The UK shouting MUTANT VIRUS in a pandemic is akin to shouting FIRE and pushing the fire alarm and expecting no one to run screaming.

Alex Macheras @AlexInAir
Breaking: Morocco, El Salvador, Romania, join France, Germany, Italy & a long list of countries banning all travel to/from the UK

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia has closed its borders to ALL, ending intl travel “due to the #COVID19 mutation found in UK, S Africa & Denmark”

Finland join the long list of countries (including Italy, Germany, France, Kuwait, Turkey, Morocco, Austria & many others in banning all travel to/from the UK because of a new strain of #COVID19 spreading across Britain

emily m @maitlis
“Banned from El Salvador ..”

Damn that EU conspiracy is contagious.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 20/12/2020 22:53

@Skipsurvey

we have our own vegetables,
Ultimately we could grow our own if we’re ok with cabbages and root veg, but not in time for Christmas.
xmasfairybuns · 20/12/2020 22:54

@Skipsurvey

we have our own vegetables,
Mostly in Westminster.
Elephant4 · 20/12/2020 22:54

I'm abroad. Boris has blamed everything on this new "mutant strain" instead of admitting they are crap. They bigged it up to take the blame for ruining Xmas. The rest of Europe doesn't want the nasty so they shut the borders. You reap what you sow. I just feel sorry for the truck drivers and hope something can be sorted quickly.

This, this and this.

JS87 · 20/12/2020 22:54

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER

The U.K. is a very big market for various French food products. They’ll find a way - I can’t see them refusing to make money out of us for long.
I expect having to lockdown to protect France for a more contagious strain of covid costs far more than they make selling the British cheese!
crackofdoom · 20/12/2020 22:55

48 hours may not sound a lot of time but that could be a number of days of food for certain areas of the country.

I imagine that the knock on effect will last much longer, especially as freight traffic into Dover has been backed up for miles over the last few days anyway.

Fuckingcrustybread · 20/12/2020 22:55

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel

It’s the fresh vegetables that are going to be the main problem though so I am not convinced this is going to be any good for the nation’s health.

Lots of freight still comes by sea to container ports but I doubt that includes many perishables.

Yes, that will be massive problem. There is nowhere in the U K that fresh vegetables can be grown. There are no fields or land that can sustain any vegetables at all. It's going to be a complete disaster.
Haffiana · 20/12/2020 22:57

Am I the only one who remembers last March and April the fuckwits on here screaming that all flights into the UK should be stopped 'cos nasty foreigners would bring Covid in, even though we had higher numbers than everyone in the world except Italy?

Same fuckwits are now screaming because the French dare to close their boarders to keep our very real, newly-mutated strain of Coronavirus out.

Covidnomore · 20/12/2020 22:57

Doe this open up the way for the govt to accept the deal we already have on the table.......

And sell it in a way to save face?

They could have predicted the reaction. It all seems quite coincidental with timing.

And let's not kid on - this strain is already well seeded in EU so they are just as fucked as we are with this new strain.

BunnyBoilerRhian · 20/12/2020 22:58

Surely they'll just fly it in. All UK airports are operating with much lower traffic than usual.
Might take a day or 2 to reorganise but simpler than in normal times because of reduce passenger traffic. Lots 9f stand space, available for freight.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 20/12/2020 22:58

Fuckingcrustybread- if you know of any good vegetable varieties that can go from sowing to harvest in a couple of days in midwinter please tell me because I hate having to wait for six months!

justanotherneighinparadise · 20/12/2020 22:58

Let’s hope if the supermarkets sense panic buying they limit quantities again. I just haven’t got the resolve for it all over again.

chomalungma · 20/12/2020 22:58

Yes, that will be massive problem. There is nowhere in the U K that fresh vegetables can be grown. There are no fields or land that can sustain any vegetables at all. It's going to be a complete disaster

Maybe we need some kind of a campaign to get people to dig their gardens and public parks to grow vegetables? What could we call it?

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