BBC news...Matt Hancock says tier 4 could last for months due to this new strain

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He must be joking.

Months of this there will be no businesses left

@FishyDog

It's quite clear that the tier 4 rules will need to be in place for months if people continue to not follow the rules. I live in London and you'd never know there was a lockdown with the number of people and cats about this morning!

Frankly, tier 4 is a walk in the park compared to the rules in other countries.

I'd like to see a proper lockdown implemented until the end of January at least- one hour of outdoor exercise per day (not endless gallivanting and going out for unnecessary reasons), one shopping trip per week (for essential food and medicine only, not wine and gin ) and £100 rewards for neighbours who report people out for too long or too often.

The rule should be that unless you are a key worker or out for infrequent exercise or shopping, stay the fuck at home.

£100 rewards for reporting neighbours?

My goodness. Snitcher's Charter!

I don't have a freezer, so have to shop more frequently than once a week.

Some people have to access the pharmacy daily for medicines.

Just who are we trying to protect?
Cancer patients and others are just seemingly being ignored, it is just f&cking Covid all the bloody time.

Do no other health conditions matter??

IcedPurple

I'm with you, it was sarcasm!

New strain my hole. It's a power grab.

Can we all remember that it's winter flu season? The NHS gets maxed out at this time of year anyway. That's why we spent tens of millions on Nightingale hospitals.....tumbleweed....

Also make sure you and your loved ones are taking lots of Vitamin D.

Children in Spain were not allowed to leave the house for two months. At all. In order to keep people safe.

That was an utter disgrace. And did fuck all good.

FishyDog

Just for that, I'm off for a non essential walk.

[quote FishyDog]@IcedPurple

Children in Spain were not allowed to leave the house for two months. At all. In order to keep people safe.

Here on the other hand we have people going out multiple times per day for non-essential reasons . We have shops open selling Christmas decorations and paint ffs.

If those of us who actually want to save lives and keep people safe were empowered to report rule breakers (and rewarded for doing so) who show no regard for public safety, this situation would be over quicker.

The vast majority of people do not need to leave home at all over the festive period. Far too many are selfish and do not care about the impact going out unnecessarily has on others.

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I dont think the kids being locked up for months in Spain is something to aspire to tbh...

£100 rewards for neighbours who report people out for too long or too often

Horrific.

Outdoor exercise is crucial for mental health.
If we were all meant to stodge about indoors, then there would be an obesity epidemic. Daily exercise boosts mood.

Christ I bet some of you lot were snitches at school, weren't you.

Children in Spain were not allowed to leave the house for two months. At all. In order to keep people safe

Didn't work though, did it? Spain - like your beloved form-checking France - has had one of the worst resurgences in Europe.

Just admit you're drooling over all the authoritarianism for its own sake, not for 'keeping people safe'.

even I am now wondering where/when this is all going to end

It'll only end when folk come to terms with what was obvious all along: that you can't "control" a virus, that the cost of this is out of all proportion to the threat and that the only thing left if the vaccines don't work is to learn to live with it

Unfortunately, the level of panic which has been encouraged is a bit of a stumbling block to that - not least because, if it happens, the cry will be "why didn't they do this in the first place instead of causing all this ruin?"

This is an absolute tragedy for our children and young people (not just in terms of education either) and they will quite rightly end up hating the older generations who have allowed this to happen

I agree that the disruption to education and life in general is a tragedy for children and young people.

But it would not be 'quite right' for them to end up hating 'the older generations'
The government is responsible. I am not, despite being one of the 'older generations'. Neither are my parents. Neither are the vast vast majority of the country. The last thing we need is yet more division, ffs

Oh just fuck off with all this Stasi shit

Honestly what is wrong with people

FishyDog is obviously a GF.

This strain has been around ages - all scaremongering bollox

I don't have a freezer, so have to shop more frequently than once a week.

This reminds me of those weird threads back in March, with people saying you only needed to buy milk once every 2 weeks, as you could make cute little milk cubes in ice cube trays in your freezer. Because everyone has a freezer, in addition to a car to carry your 10 litres of milk. Because of course.

@Jaxhog

Why is everyone blaming the government? They really had no choice once the new strain was identified. What would you prefer? Everyone in extended lockdown? Or thousands more dying in hospital car parks?

It was identified in September? What took them so long

But no, the poor government are just doing their best in difficult circumstances. They aren't a load of incompetent fuckwits who could t organise a piss up in a brewery. No...

@StockTakeAndWatermelons

£100 rewards for neighbours who report people out for too long or too often

Horrific.

Exactly. Imagine the little weasly curtain twitchers getting kicks out of it.

Daily Mail readers? 😂 The permanently self- righteous and indignant.

''Ohh look! the woman at 98 has exceeded her exercise by 15 minutes 47 seconds, and that is the second time she has been out today, she left the house at 09:07h, returned at 10:57h..That's £200 for me

@pennylane83

The cynic in me thinks how coincidental that the country gets locked down again for the 'new strain' just as we are on the cusp of a monumental crash out of Europe. Typical distraction technique.

I don't remember all this hooha back in July when the Spanish variant of covid was running rampant throughput the UK - being brought back by all those holidaymakers. I guess that's because back then the powers that be didn't want to give up their holiday abroad during Parliment's summer recess, now, they just don't want you to know about the shit Brexit terms so are pre-emptively lining up the scapegoat for when it all goes horribly wrong - the new strain.

Exactly this!

@Puzzledandpissedoff

even I am now wondering where/when this is all going to end

It'll only end when folk come to terms with what was obvious all along: that you can't "control" a virus, that the cost of this is out of all proportion to the threat and that the only thing left if the vaccines don't work is to learn to live with it

Unfortunately, the level of panic which has been encouraged is a bit of a stumbling block to that - not least because, if it happens, the cry will be "why didn't they do this in the first place instead of causing all this ruin?"

Yep! We’ve been saying this for months.

Actually, if we look at cancer, it kills about 165,000 people a year in the UK. That's all cancers added together. Coronavirus has caused about 67,000 deaths.

We spend a lot of money on treating, researching and preventing cancer but each cancer may require a different strategy. And it isn't directly transmissible.

If we don't get coronavirus under control then we could easily see more people dying of it compared to cancer in a one year period.

And it's not as simple as saying we can learn to live with it - believe it or not, large numbers of deaths and people off sick tend to hamper the economy too.

And the more cases there are, the more new strains we get.

We will conveniently be in it for months whilst brexit beds in that's for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if we are still in it next Christmas. Unless people decide to protest en mass at the overall loss of their liberty.