Mass evacuation of London

[madcatladyforever]

just seen yesterdays videos of the mass evacuation of people from London to go and spend christmas elsewhere before it's too late.
Well done Londeners thanks for spreading the virus mutation ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
Now waiting for tier 4 all over the country in the new year.
Because your christmas is so much more important than anybody elses health.
This is how it all started, no action in Wuhan, a few days later it's been flown all over the world, fantastic.
Mark my words the new year will be hell.

Think London will be more busy than usual with so many Not decamping elsewhere or on holiday etc. Zone 1 here. Usually love Christmas quiet but think may be different now ?
Where’s my local cross rail entry hatch ??? no need to tunnel when it’s already been done and we paid for it eh ?

@KaptainKaveman

As a Londoner I don't need to evacuate. I have everything I need in my multi million pound house complete with indoor pool/gym/ cinema room/ wine cellar/ servants' quarters/ tennis courts / stables/ huge stashes of gold ingots euros and US dollars.

The rest of you can eat cake 🎂

This perception of Londoners owning second homes and wanting to infect the rest of the country bemuses me. Most Londoners are just getting by like anyone in the big cities. And as pp are saying, most of us are still working and plan to have Christmas at home.

[quote MessAllOver]@RelightMyPfizer. Why aren't you blaming the parents (who aren't "Londoners") for allowing them to stay? I'm presuming they would have stayed in London if their parents had said don't come.

Real story (if there is one) appears to be 'Selfish non-Londoners all across the country allowing their adult children to come home for Christmas and spread the virus more widely".

Those travelling are also going to be exposed to other people (not Londoners) while at "home" (not London) and bring whatever they catch from their non-London families back to London when they return to work. Thus, massively increasing the rates of infection in London. There's a lot to be said for having a London "exclusion zone" and not letting those who have left return to London after the holiday period.[/quote]
I'm not blaming anyone for anything

I am stating a fact.

Londoners and people from the SE are staying put, it's where their families are. People with families elsewhere are leaving London (where they work and live but not "homegrown" Londoners as the judgy posts are implying). I am not sure why turning on other parts of the country is helpful. It's an indiscriminate virus and you can still get it even with taking precautions, it doesn't stop at county lines. When the NW was afflicted the rest of the country did not start tutting about that area, people just like to have a pop at London and the South East. The new strain has been around since September, so think of all the cross country journeys that have taken place since then. It is already across the nation, we will all be Tier 4 post Christmas.

I think the short notice cancellation is suspicious. It does seem like they wanted to get the £s going through the tills until they could not ignore it anymore.

There's still tickets left if you wanted to go from Euston to Manchester this afternoon. Clearly the media have created a story where there is none.

Half as many tickets are being sold during Covid of course some routes will sell out so close to Xmas.

Except it's not really Londoners is it? Londoners don't have family positioned elsewhere to flee too.

I think what you mean is "thank you returning northerners/midlands/Welsh/Scottish etc for bringing the virus HOME"

Huddersfield town centre, pictured earlier today:

ha ha @SantasBritchesSpelleas

* SoupDragon*.

My DC are young adults living in London and devastated to be missing Christmas at home . Being normal responsible people they are sucking the disappointment up. They said that their road, largely young professionals in flats, emptied yesterday evening with everyone packing up. All their friends seem have gone to their parents in the country, Kent, Sussex, Herts etc. Young people , quite rightly know that COVID isn't really a risk to them but some seem to have lost their social consciousness along the way.

That makes me feel quite ill yikes, as my father is staying put on his own in North London, where I'm from so as not to risk bringing it north.

For everyone judging people who are decamping you have no idea what they might have sacrificed during the year or what their situations are. I wont see my mother or siblings this year but she is vulnerable and it's happened three Christmases now, as I had a cold other years. The first year I couldn't was my first taste of depression and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I did the judgey thing during the year and it helps nobody, it just makes you bitter and angry.

I think the short notice cancellation is suspicious. It does seem like they wanted to get the £s going through the tills until they could not ignore it anymore

I agree. Just as they told all the students everything would be fine as long as they went back to uni in September and continued paying their fees. How many would have gone back had they known they'd be locked in halls and doing everything online?

@yikesanotherbooboo

My DC are young adults living in London and devastated to be missing Christmas at home . Being normal responsible people they are sucking the disappointment up. They said that their road, largely young professionals in flats, emptied yesterday evening with everyone packing up. All their friends seem have gone to their parents in the country, Kent, Sussex, Herts etc. Young people , quite rightly know that COVID isn't really a risk to them but some seem to have lost their social consciousness along the way.

Many young professional couples are staying put, but those in flat shares, risked being left alone at 22/23, which is pretty grim. DD came home just before lockdown in March, and stayed the whole summer, she went back in August, then had to return in November. Her group have now given up their flat completely and are all back in the home counties WFH. Pretty sad for all those young people having to go back to live at home with no social life, and just work to keep them going.

Santas

Not a goady question but what were the train stations in places like Newcastle and Manchester like yesterday evening? Aren't they also "busy"? I travel to London in rush hour so those pics look like normal footfall for a Saturday night to me.

BigWoollyJumpers I'm not unsympathetic... I would have hated to be stuck in a city on my own with no social life at their age. We feel awful about it and my DC are lucky in that they have each other . I actually think that if there had been more notice it would have given people time to think and they might have made different plans rather than pressing the trigger and rushing home to avoid the midnight deadline.

@SantasBritchesSpelleas

Huddersfield town centre, pictured earlier today:

@yikesanotherbooboo

My DC are young adults living in London and devastated to be missing Christmas at home . Being normal responsible people they are sucking the disappointment up. They said that their road, largely young professionals in flats, emptied yesterday evening with everyone packing up. All their friends seem have gone to their parents in the country, Kent, Sussex, Herts etc. Young people , quite rightly know that COVID isn't really a risk to them but some seem to have lost their social consciousness along the way.

So they went home to their parents in other tier 4 areas. Your point is?

It is hardly going to Cornwall is it

Most if Sussex is (wrongly) in tier 2.

@ceeveebee

Really happy that my neighbour’s son, wife and kids have arrived from London last night no doubt to stay for the next week - that was never legal even under the old rules. We are greater Manchester, tier 3 and have had our rates plummet recently. Fuming. So selfish

Same here, not our neighbour, but a friend’s sil and family who have travelled to Dorset for a week.

I felt exactly the same.