Quick poll: who intends to continue with Xmas plans in tier 4?

[Missmidden]

To help with my discussions with family who were due to come entirely within the rules as they were pre 4pm!

Genuinely in a total quandary as to what to say- all low risk people but it’s our decision as our house. If I thought that a big chunk of the affected population would “rebel” or that everyone else was towing the line that might help, so thanks in advance.

Thank you nether.

I'm in tier 4 have £600 of food being delivered Monday night. I was supposed to be hosting 10 (3 households, the other 2 already bubbled). Last chance to change the shopping order was yesterday.
I don't even care about that because I'm watching the fragile mental health of my kids deteriorate further. They don't care about turkey or even presents. They are desperate to see family they have only seen once in the last 12 months. I cannot console them. They used to be happy and positive. They are permanently anxious or angry and keep saying they want to die. They don't trust my words of comfort. We needed this.
I even had private COVID tests booked for Tuesday to check we are -ve.
How do I help my babies?

We're in Scotland. Tier 2, going to be Tier 1 next week. Cancelled all plans. Will be staying in.

Thank fuck the borders are closing.

@nugget396

Crazy how many people think the vaccine is the “cure all” and the end of this whole thing.

It's the nearest thing we've got to cure it, unless you want months if not years of restrictions and most businesses going bust.

@herethereandeverywhere

I'm in tier 4 have £600 of food being delivered Monday night. I was supposed to be hosting 10 (3 households, the other 2 already bubbled). Last chance to change the shopping order was yesterday. I don't even care about that because I'm watching the fragile mental health of my kids deteriorate further. They don't care about turkey or even presents. They are desperate to see family they have only seen once in the last 12 months. I cannot console them. They used to be happy and positive. They are permanently anxious or angry and keep saying they want to die. They don't trust my words of comfort. We needed this. I even had private COVID tests booked for Tuesday to check we are -ve. How do I help my babies?

I can’t answer that but I really feel for you and them.

I'm Tier 4 and I will be doing exactly as I planned. Me, DH and two DV going to stay with my parents 23rd-27th.

My dad is dying and this is his last Christmas.

We will have all isolated for two weeks prior.

This is literally all that is keeping my dad going.

We in wales enter lockdown tonight, and I just wanted to say that the OP of the wales threads has sadly lost his dad to Coronavirus yesterday. so to everyone determined to continue their plans, I get how you feel, but please consider the reasons we have to get the virus under control.

Tier 4 here. Cancelled (obviously).
Does feel a bit unfair though that everyone else still gets their Christmas Day but we will follow the rules. Would be pretty selfish not to.

We're Tier 4, we've cancelled all plans.
I couldn't live with myself if we didn't.

I wouldn't have made plans in the first case tbf. Again, the virus doesn't give a shit about gov decree. It will take the opportunity when it "sees" it.

Honestly, I don't see why people can't think for a minute and see that xmas is just a half-randomly selected date. You can celebrate whatever thing at any other random date. If the notion is important than it will be important on a different calendar date as well. If not, then why bother?

My neighbours have got in their car to pick their daughter up from London (tier 4) - we are in tier 3 here (Lincolnshire)
She text to tell me that was what they were doing she said her daughter would be in her flat on her own for 2 weeks but the question is - are people going to be allowed to drive into London??

I’m in London, was planning to visit family including elderly relatives and an asthmatic. Not so much about the rules but my concern about the transmission rate of the new strain. If I’d been completely isolating and could drive I’d go, but as it stands I’d be introducing unquantifiable additional risk which I don’t think is appropriate or justifiable. I know people who were already isolating to minimise risk and will drive and I wouldn’t expect them to change their plans but absolutely concerned about people who have ‘only’ been to the supermarket and gym.
I’ve seen most of my family twice this year already if that makes a difference.

We’ve cancelled. My babies’ first xmas and can’t see grandparents. Totally gutted.

We were all for ‘breaking the rules’ and seeing family in London however last weekend my parents tested positive and are extremely ill. Therefore we won’t be seeing DH family either; SIL is heavily pregnant and they are elderly, we couldn’t live with ourselves if they became unwell. My own parents will be out of isolation Christmas Eve however still have all symptoms so it’s highly unlikely we will see them. People must take it seriously and take responsibility.

Totally gutted but cancelled. Safer.

We will still be going to mum's. She lives 2 mins away by car and myself, DD and DS have now been hardly seeing anyone since his school closed last week. She lives on her own and bubbles with my brother who lives on his own across the street.

Why is this even a quandary? Just follow the rules. I haven’t seen my parents since last Christmas and normally they would come and stay for about a week a month. We all miss them desperately and are devastated about today’s announcement but wouldn’t dream of breaking the rules. Try living in an area that has been tier 3 for months and months!

I’m not sure that people will admit that they will be breaking the rules.

@Derbee

I’m not sure that people will admit that they will be breaking the rules.

People are positively gloating about it on other threads.

This is why we are where we are.

Because some people do whatever takes their fancy and the rest of us are stuck in this fucking cycle of restrictions for months.

Selfish buggers fucking it up for everybody else.

Thanks @QueenoftheAir. Yes just one day at a time. I don't say I haven't had bad times this year but I just focus on the day. I find mindfulness meditation helps. I also try think of 3 good things at the end of the day so that I go to sleep feeling positive. Very small things it could be the little boy who lives 3 doors along giggling in the garden, a sunny day, a chat with my daughter.

I feel very sad when I read some comments about older people or people with terminal illnesses. They may have less time to live but believe me they want to live and their lives ending before their natural time because of covid is tragic. I have cared for three terminally ill people, my husband, my mother and my father. They all fought to live until the very end.

We’ve cancelled our plans

I’m a single autistic parent with an autistic teenage son and we’ve been on our own in a one bedroom flat since March except for a short trip to see my parents. Actually neither of us mind this too much because we’re very introverted and I have to go out twice a day with our dogs so I’m not always at home.

We’re planning to travel from tier 3 to tier 3 to visit my parents....dad is 87 and had a heart attack 3 months ago and we’ve not seen either of them since the summer. We’ve been pretty much isolating for a couple of weeks.

From what I can gather this isn’t breaking the rules but I totally understand why others would break them. As for the lockdowns, they achieve nothing if the schools are open....every parent knows that.

I haven't seen my parents for over a year. I'm pissed off with the new announcement, but I'm pissed off even more with the those who think they are above the rest of us.

My parents are my childcare.
They will be here 24th like they have been 5 days a week for months and that is acceptable.
25th i am breaking the law.
I am not a natural rule breaker but i cant reconcile in my head that one day is ok and the other isn't so honestly i just don't know what we will do.