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Seventy percent more transmissiable

127 replies

Justanotherdayina · 19/12/2020 16:58

Can someone explain how is it ?

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GetOffYourHighHorse · 19/12/2020 17:02

It's mutated.

It's scary isn't it. As if we haven't all struggled enough without the virus now becoming more transmissible.

I just hope the sobering facts at the press conference make people realise they need to stay at home and not carry on their plans to travel to see family.

Bushola · 19/12/2020 17:07

Gotta keep the fear up somehow.

Remember back in March we were told we’d all get it and need hospital treatment and that we WOULD lose loved ones and that death was knocking at our door etc.

Teaanddimebars · 19/12/2020 17:11

Where is the evidence that it is 70% “more transmissible”? What does it actually mean?

That a number of people were deliberately exposed to two difference strains and that 70% more of them went on to catch the “mutant” strain compared to the “original covid “?

That they tested both against full PPE and none of the original one got through, but 70% of the time the mutant one managed to infect the wearer anyway?

It is a very specific figure. I didn’t see the press conference so sorry if this has already been covered in detail, but I’d like to see some evidence as it sounds very worrying.

Bimbleboo · 19/12/2020 17:12

@Bushola. No I don’t? At no point was I told I ‘would’ get it. Nor was I told death was at my door.

Fucking hate Bojo and can’t stand the Tory handling of the shitshow but don’t talk nonesense.

His words were that ‘many more would lose loved ones’ and over 60k families did in fact lose loved ones.

Just because something incites anxiety when you don’t want it to, doesn’t mean it’s the single reason it’s been said.

Not everything ‘scary’ has been said JUST to scare people with no further motive.

yawnsvillex · 19/12/2020 17:14

Thy need to keep the fear up!

SantaClausComingToTown · 19/12/2020 17:16

To keep the fear up - he has to have an excuse to change Christmas rule.

why are we the only country to see this?

GetOffYourHighHorse · 19/12/2020 17:18

'Thy need to keep the fear up!'

Why do you think this? The facts were clear the cases are soaring in the SE. We know hosp admissions and deaths follow.

People need to stay at home.

secretllama · 19/12/2020 17:21

Well they've been implying since March that you're pretty much guaranteed to catch it if you so much as brush past someone in a restaurant or touch a trolly so how can you get 70% more transmissible than 100%?

Sorry, im not being serious clearly 🤣... just think the whole thing is madness. Make people scared enough as compliance is dropping. Or is that the measures for the virus before were excessive?

Ormally · 19/12/2020 17:22

Look at the thread entitled "New Strain Stuff".
Some of the mutations discovered, and what this could mean, are explained a bit more with reference to news coming from some of the labs that are engaged with it.
It's too early to tell exactly what the effect will be in terms of spread, and whether current neutralising measures are doing exactly the same to this as the other variants that responded, but it looks as if transmission could definitely be aided by the mutations. No idea where the 'up to 70 percent' comes in.

20mum · 19/12/2020 17:22

Look at the graph. It's nearly vertical in London. Boris keeps scoring own goals by listening to the wrong people. Silent Starmer holds his fire, then puts in a cannot-fail suggestion.

He can now point out that Boris should have cancelled Christmas a few days ago, and that the difference will mean a vast number of avoidable infections and therefore deaths.

Justanotherdayina · 19/12/2020 17:22

So can measures be taken against it? I.e. instead of 2 m/ 4m distance. Wear latex gloves ? I thought it was a given , if I was in a non ventilated room with someone with covid, I was most likely to catch it , so how can it be 70% more than that ?

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GetOffYourHighHorse · 19/12/2020 17:24

'So can measures be taken against it? I.e. instead of 2 m/ 4m distance'

Whitty said SD and other measures should be effective. The thing is we know compliance is a problem, if mn is anything to go by that is.

Elephant4 · 19/12/2020 17:26

It's a load of old bollocks.

When they need to open shops again this mutation will suddenly be forgotten.

There is no new mutation.

Igotjelly · 19/12/2020 17:26

@SantaClausComingToTown

To keep the fear up - he has to have an excuse to change Christmas rule.

why are we the only country to see this?

We arent the only country to see this Confused it's already being reported as likely I'm Germany and Italy and much of the continent has already had christmas "cancelled".
Goldencurtain · 19/12/2020 17:27

@Bushola

Gotta keep the fear up somehow.

Remember back in March we were told we’d all get it and need hospital treatment and that we WOULD lose loved ones and that death was knocking at our door etc.

Stop lying. You're embarrassing yourself.
CoronaIsWatching · 19/12/2020 17:27

Could be Mink Covid

Teaanddimebars · 19/12/2020 17:28

@Justanotherdayina - If it’s the mutant one then you will have a 70% chance of catching it even if you are in the room next door. With two masks on. Grin

Don’t ask where the evidence is for this. Just believe it. And stay at home Grin

sleepwouldbenice · 19/12/2020 17:28

@Bushola

Gotta keep the fear up somehow.

Remember back in March we were told we’d all get it and need hospital treatment and that we WOULD lose loved ones and that death was knocking at our door etc.

No i don't remember any such thing. That's utter rubbish
Igotjelly · 19/12/2020 17:29

Viruses mutate, its what they do. It's just that this mutation has made it more contagious. In general this is a 'good' mutation for viruses, if it becomes more deadly it kills the host before having a chance to spread - Ebola being a good example.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 19/12/2020 17:30

'We arent the only country to see this confused it's already being reported as likely I'm Germany and Italy and much of the continent has already had christmas "cancelled".'

Its crazy isn't it, so many covid deniers and 'Well I'm off to see me nan and Boris isnt gonna stop me!' loons Confused.

Plussizejumpsuit · 19/12/2020 17:33

This really has rattled me. I feel like it will spread. I hope the vaccine works against the new strain. Anyone know about this? Just feeling really low about everything now.

Teaanddimebars · 19/12/2020 17:33

It is not crazy to ask for evidence when bold claims are made though @GetOffYourHighHorse.

If I marked a students work and they had randomly quoted a percentage, I’d be writing “Where is the evidence for this?/Reference needed” in the margin.

But the public aren’t allowed to question anything that is announced, not when figures and percentages are thrown around and used and manipulated in order to scare people into compliance.

Alonelonelyloner · 19/12/2020 17:35

How very depressing listening to the covid19 deniers. Aren't you so lucky to have not lost anyone. Wow.

It's not about fear. What does having people afraid really achieve? I can't stand the government in England, but what do you think they are hoping to achieve. Good grief.

marvelousmadmadammim · 19/12/2020 17:37

If the numbers of confirmed cases coming out of our school are anything to go by it is rampant.

Bushola · 19/12/2020 17:38

Boris “Families will lose loved ones”