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This is ridiculous!!

118 replies

Thedarksideofthemoon30 · 19/12/2020 16:25

I’m so fed up now. This is probably the least Xmasy I have felt since the one after my mum died (she died on the 29th December 2009).

I feel like it’s all being dangled in front of us then snatched away again. Iv just seen they have cut it down to one day only that you are allowed to mix. Like wtf?! It’s 6 days before Christmas!

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ilovesooty · 19/12/2020 16:40

[quote userxx]@ilovesooty Older people who can't get out to the shops.

Years ago at primary school we had a police man come in to do one of those random talks, he told us about an old lady who was left at home on Xmas day because of a mix up with her kids, the only thing she had in was stale bread and lard, anyway she choked to death on it. Why the fuck would you tell that to little kids!! [/quote]
That is an extreme case. It's hardly likely to be commonplace!

userxx · 19/12/2020 16:45

That is an extreme case. It's hardly likely to be commonplace!

You'd like to think not. Every Christmas Day for the past 38 years I've worried about that. Fucking idiot policeman.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 19/12/2020 16:46

Our local facebook group is already alight with people offering to do last minute shopping for people. We're in Tier 2...

Food bank boss has just messaged some of us, additional voluntary hours tomorrow to organise last minute meals with the local cafes and meals on wheels and food bags. Many people will have had their plans changed, so we'll try and get to them all. We know most of them now!!!

At least we have the framework in place now!!!

BingPot99 · 19/12/2020 16:47

So let's wait and see if MPs all stay where they should be....

Toddlerteaplease · 19/12/2020 16:47

He had the chance to change the rules days ago, and didn't. I don't think people will comply now.

Benjispruce2 · 19/12/2020 16:48

I will. Listen to the scientists not Boris.

Toddlerteaplease · 19/12/2020 16:48

I've just been into my city centre and was surprised how quiet it was. Much quieter than a normal Saturday and John Lewis was practically empty

Dragongirl10 · 19/12/2020 16:50

Surely people can't really be surprised....we all knew that this winter was likely to be very difficult with big surges of covid cases....it is easy enough to plan for that, we knew this months ago.

Also its the behavior of each and every one of us that either allows the virus to spread or prevents it....

Much as l am no fan of Boris, he cannot control all the people who decide to cram themselves into shops and restaurants, visit friends etc.

MajorMujer · 19/12/2020 16:51

It is needed. Crap but needed.

PimlicoJo · 19/12/2020 16:51

It's spreading fast in London. This is the right thing to do.

DirtyDancing · 19/12/2020 16:51

It is devastating for many, many people I do understand that. But we are in a pandemic & it’s a VUCA situation which no one can predict so we have to expect it to a degree.

Separate issue is the Government’s handling has been utterly shite though, they should have never got people’s hopes up like this. It’s been a sodding car crash and many, many people’s mental health is hanging on by a thread.. but hey what does one expect from a PM who couldn’t even say ‘sorry for your loss’ to a lady who asked a question at the press conference and had lost two members of her family to covid. Flowers

queenofknives · 19/12/2020 16:54

Just do what you were planning. Large-scale civil disobedience is the only thing that will get us out of lockdown.

Bewareoftheblob · 19/12/2020 16:57

.. but hey what does one expect from a PM who couldn’t even say ‘sorry for your loss’ to a lady who asked a question at the press conference and had lost two members of her family to covid

Yeah, god forbid he didn't signal his virtue.

IndecentFeminist · 19/12/2020 16:58

Let's just wait and see how many private boats appear off Seaview on the Isle of Wight pretty soon...

CuriousaboutSamphire · 19/12/2020 16:59

Toddler yes they knew but didn't have hard data based on actual cases.

They could have changed based on probability and been equally badly slammed for overreacting - there were enough questions asked across the house, it wasn't being ignored. But the last 24 hours worth of data regarding the rate of spread was worse than predicted, as was said at the podium a couple of times.

There still is no right or wrong response. It's pointless hating BJ so much it clouds your judgement - as many posters on MN and all other platforms seem to be doing.

All we can do is choose to donate the buffet to a soup kitchen, support lonely relatives and friends as best we can and take all necessary precautions not to become an additional vector for spreading any variant!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 19/12/2020 17:00

Based on what actual logic. queen

Or were you thinking that the sooner we are all ill, dying or dead the sooner the spread will slow down?!?!

Lepetitpiggy · 19/12/2020 17:01

@queenofknives

Just do what you were planning. Large-scale civil disobedience is the only thing that will get us out of lockdown.
And maybe cause some, I dunno, little issues like more deaths - not all from Covid? But yeah, lets do what we want
Unescorted · 19/12/2020 17:04

The Government in November needed a "good" story to cover over how shockingly badly they were doing in the Brexit negotiations and so "gave" us Christmas. It was always a short term chase of the feelgood for them. For the last 10 years we have been governed by headline and polls - not by people with a grip on strategic governance.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 19/12/2020 17:04

And now Starmer is blustering.. I told him so, I did! I told him so. And it's all BJs fault!!!

I REALLY do miss real politicians. The ones who, no matter how much they disagreed with the incumbent PM didn't use a national, let alone global, catastrophe for point scoring.

I mean, I can disagree with BJ, I can think he should have done something different, but I don't have to pretend my own guesses were any more prescient!!!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 19/12/2020 17:06

Unescorted it's been a lot longer than that, sadly!!

Mid 70s at a push!!??!!??

ShanghaiDiva · 19/12/2020 17:10

But will the police be stopping people from leaving tier four?
Roadblocks?

billybagpuss · 19/12/2020 17:12

I’ll bury this suggestion in a thread, I’ve just booked parcel force to send DD’s gifts as she now can’t visit, I’m guessing it might book up quickly.

BigWoollyJumpers · 19/12/2020 17:12

@OublietteBravo

It was ridiculous to announce the Christmas bubbles a month in advance.
A month ago the situation was completely different......
queenofknives · 19/12/2020 17:13

@CuriousaboutSamphire

Based on what actual logic. queen

Or were you thinking that the sooner we are all ill, dying or dead the sooner the spread will slow down?!?!

I think covid is serious and we should do our best to protect one another from it. I supported the first lockdown but we now have a lot more information and it's clear that continuing lockdown is going to do more harm and cause more deaths (non-covid deaths), as well as creating long-term recession and worse quality of life, not to mention the effect on education and prospects for children. Plus there is a big consideration about quality of life, especially for older and more vulnerable people. People need to go and see their elderly relatives. People need to re-establish their family connections. People need to work, and businesses need to be operational. People need a range of healthcare to be available, operations, cancer treatment. Children need to be in school, getting an education. People need to be able to go to exercise classes, to the pub, out for a meal, to a party. We don't just need to be alive - we need quality of life, health care, meaningful work, love and family connections, and hope for the future.
Sam1815 · 19/12/2020 17:14

This has came way too late though for us in the North.
They sent all the students home from university who have already gone home to London, the south east and other high risk places and will return come January with this new strain (which isn’t up here) as the universities won’t stop them coming back.
The same will happen up here what happened in September where the rates spiked massively as all the students brought the virus with them from the south.

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