I'm fucking done

[Twizbe]

I'm done. We've been isolating ready to see my parents and now we can't.

This is the third time now we've had to cancel plans last min and I'm sick of it! Totally sick of it!

Yep just ignore the advice and we will be on lockdown for longer. Nice one.

I don't understand how this makes much difference to my situation, however I do know its a blanket rule to avoid discrepencies (or thats the idea).

I was going up on the 24th, and staying at mums until 2nd Jan. We were just going to go on dog walks, no supermarkets etc. Tier 2 to Tier 2.

What difference does it make if I go for 1 day versus 10 days. Surely 10 days is better as we'd sorta be self-isolating anyway (that is if we just stayed inside, no dog walks).

@DappledOliveGroves

We're a nation - a world - of absolute pussies. Pathetic. Did the world fuck up its economies one after the other for the Spanish flu pandemic? 20 million died - mostly young and healthy - and people got on with life.

Just let the fucking virus spread. Don't admit over 80s to hospital and give palliative care to them at home . People need to accept that death is a part of life. My mother is 81, in a care home with dementia. Is it a tragedy if she - or the other poor bastards in the care home - were to die? Of course not. No-one should ever have to live with dementia and why on earth we don't have euthanasia is beyond me.

Christ - the baby boomer generation have had it all. Roaring post-war economies, employment, massive increase in house prices, final salary pensions. And now they all have to live to 100 or something, and bed block hospitals and bugger up everyone's lives for the sake of the NHS which has been a shower of shite for decades?

The world is over-populated, local authorities can't afford the enormous social care bill for people in care homes and yet people say every death is a tragedy? Bullshit. Have some pragmatism.

I actually agree with you here. It is sad when people die, when you reach an advanced age it is to be expected. We are so out of touch with death in the West. In the end something is going to get you and I say this as someone who had lost both parents by my mid 30's. We don't live forever and it really is not a tragedy if someone dies in their 80's or even 70's. Sad for their families yes but not a tragedy. I honestly will say that if I end up in a care home with dementia then I hope something comes to take me out (I've been in lots of care homes and had Grandparents die of dementia).

@TheKeatingFive

This is terrible news for everyone but if people don’t follow the rules it’s not going away and now it’s mutating

It’s not going away regardless of what people do. Keeping them away from their close family for months on end is no kind of answer.

Well yeah, so many seem to think if only everyone followed the 'rules' (that change daily and make not much sense at times) then it would all disappear. I can see why thinking that could be comforting, but its just not even slightly true.

To all of you just carrying on anyway.
Please can you spare a thought for those on the front line watching people die daily of covid
Can you think about OUR families who won’t ever get a guaranteed Christmas Day anyway because you know NHS is 24 hours
Can you stop being so FUCKING SELFISH for the sake of a god Damn Christmas dinner or we will never be rid of this
I miss my family
I feel so very isolated
I see my neighbour cry daily as she returns from work, how she has aged, how her skin is bruised from PPE
Just don’t mix

Will I ever be allowed to see anyone outside of work again?

@Cecily42

I think it’s frightening to see how many people don’t give a fuck and really unfair on those is us who do. The hospitals are full with ambulances queuing outside. Are people not watching the news? 🤦‍♀️

More interested in their fucking buffets.

People are so unbelievably selfish and really, really stupid. I just can’t get my head around it.

Just to be clear, we have followed every rule and have cancelled plans three times already because of rule changes.

We didn't go on holiday this year. I've not been to a pub since my children's birthdays in January. We all got covid back in March.

We've done everything asked. The Christmas relaxation was something to look forward to and it's been taken away at the last moment.

Yes, covid is bad, yes people are dying, but for once on here can people stop being such sanctimonious dicks and understand that some people are upset by this. We've been on edge ALL FUCKING YEAR. Some of us are done. We want to wallow in the shit for a day. Tomorrow I'll put on a smile and make sure the kids have a lovely Christmas. But for tonight I want to cry and process this emotion!

We'll be totally fucked if we continue to let this Government lock us down for no reason.

Why does the 'new strain' seem to be more contagious?? Because it's winter time and people's Vitamin D levels have dropped off.

Take your Vitamin D people!!

@OohImBlindedByTheLights

To quote the title of this thread, I'm fucking done with folk not following the restrictions in place. Yes it's shit, yes it's bad timing, but how would you feel if someone in your family died because you passed on covid over Christmas dinner? What's more important, Christmas dinner or your families health?

No one is going to pass anything on, not even a cold, if they have been isolating for two weeks, get a grip

The recklessness and incompetence of this government is astounding. The worst possible leadership at the worst possible time. Why on earth did they end the autumn lockdown, so people could pile into Primark and the pub? Should have kept it in place until Christmas Eve.

Yep you all do what you want. To hell with the fact that travelling around and mixing could lead to you killing your vulnerable relatives, or somebody else's vulnerable relatives. And ignore the fact that 30% of nhs workers are now planning to leave in the next year.

@DappledOliveGroves

Without compassion we are nothing. Your logic is undeniable but it’s the human capability for compassion that gives us the edge. Compassion is everything. It is there when logic fails

@nosswith

OP if you voted Tory or did not vote, you have contributed to this unintentionally.

My anger is that this should have been announced several days ago, or indeed never had a 'Christmas bubble' at all.

Never voted Tory and have voted at every election.

FWIW I think any government would have made mistakes with this

Has there ( in our living memory ) been anything like this before ?
The answer is NO .
So you cannot fill your homes with people over Christmas.
You cannot have your traditional party , because you always have.
Yes you are upset - we all are.
Yes you are mostly going to have a less jolly Christmas - we all are.
Yes your mum , dad , Aunt Fanny will be alone - we all know someone who will be , and many are always alone. Get over it !
This Year will be DIFFERENT.
Hopefully this will be the only one we need to do like this . Who knows what 2021 will be like if we fuck it up.
Don't fuck it up .

@BinkyBoinky

I'm confused. He said if you're visiting family members who are in danger of loneliness then that is OK.??

I'm in tier 4 and so is my mum who in her 80s. I have been isolating and working from home for weeks. She has been looking forward to Christmas for weeks and now will be alone? I also don't have a car so I can't go "just for the day" as there will be no transport.

So what do i do?

Just go.

@LovingCountryLife

Not many people will have been able to completely isolate for the two weeks before christmas.

No one is going to pass anything on, not even a cold, if they have been isolating for two weeks, get a grip

Off subject slightly but this year I've been the healthiest I've ever been precisely because I've been following the rules until now. I've not had a single cold or anything, usually I have about 5 by now!

Just go x

More interested in their fucking buffets.

Or, y’know, wanting to see elderly parents who we’ve been prevented from seeing for months at this stage and who will not live forever, Covid or no Covid.

What is the actual penalty for breaking the rules, does anyone know?
DPs were intending to travel 3 hours from tier 2 to tier 2 on Xmas Eve, and travel back later on Xmas Day, as I’m then back at work anyway.
Very low personal risk due to wfh and online deliveries for everything. More risk from them driving there and back all in one day tbh.

I'm sick of being told it's my job to "save the nhs" because it's not. I pay my taxes, it's the governments job to make sure it is funded and set up to deal with the unexpected.

@LovingCountryLife
You both stay at home. No bubbles in Tier 4.
You can meet outside.

@DappledOliveGroves You may be happy to see your mother off given her illness but my parents are well and healthy with hopefully a few more years ahead. I have not seen them since January and I would very much like the opportunity to see them again thanks very much. Not all old people are ready for the scrap heap.

For those of you saying any compliance will prevent further lockdowns ...nope ..this is going to be happening for a long, long time
I for one, am sick of hearing BoJo say do such and such and we will be ok for Christmas/ Easter...etc etc.
I think he was wrong to give us false hope