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I'm fucking done

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Twizbe · 19/12/2020 16:20

I'm done. We've been isolating ready to see my parents and now we can't.

This is the third time now we've had to cancel plans last min and I'm sick of it! Totally sick of it!

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m0therofdragons · 19/12/2020 18:49

It’s so depressing reading how many people on these threads want to ignore them rules. Do any of you work in a hospital? I very much doubt anyone dealing with the reality would advocate breaking the rules. Last week we had to send out a plea to clinicians to come into work on their off days because the hospital wasn’t safe to run on the number of staff we had. This is serious stuff.

ColdTattyWaitingForSummer · 19/12/2020 18:49

Re collective worship.. I’ve been to church since COVID. You can only sit with your own household. Must wear a mask throughout. No singing allowed. No members of the congregation getting up to read or share or pray. No sharing communion (you bring your own bread and wine / juice). So it may seem odd to allow it, but it really isn’t how people are imagining it.

Okeydokeypiginapokey · 19/12/2020 18:50

To people going on about 'following the rules'. We have been 'following the rules' and guess what? It's not working!

tigerbear · 19/12/2020 18:51

Meant you say, we’ve def decided we won’t be seeing the PIL. Thank god they’re quite tech savvy, so can Skype and join in things like Houseparty. In their very limited little world of their house, it’s a lifeline.
I feel for those who aren’t able to communicate with elderly parents/PIL in this way.

Twizbe · 19/12/2020 18:53

@toocold54

The promise of being able to see my parents was keeping me sane ...

I am surprised how so many people are acting shocked that the rules have changed.

The government should have never said people could definitely mix so far in advance but surely people have to take some responsibility seeing as the rules have been constantly changing since April and often with little notice.

Well aren't you so clever to have known things would change.

And again it's somehow our fault for being upset now

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bigvig · 19/12/2020 18:54

If the virus is as deadly as the government's response to it suggests why am I being asked to teach in a 'bubble' of 1000 plus with no ppe and no requirement to have decent ventilation in rooms or extra cleaning staff. Why is PHE's advice to our college that it doesn't matter if 4 students test positive in one classroom as long as you were two meters away you can carry on as usual - despite breathing in the same air for hours that week. Either it is deadly and I'm being thrown under the bus or they know it isn't so all these rules are just to keep the media dogs from their door. I'm not sure which it is but I'm not happy either way. Omnishambles!

TheKeatingFive · 19/12/2020 18:55

Then I’d feel no guilt because I hadn’t been responsible for their death.

That’s making it all about you though. Their own wishes might be different.

In my eyes, the idea of missing a last Christmas with my family if they wanted to spend it with me would be devastating also (in a different way).

WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo · 19/12/2020 18:55

@ineedsun it's just bloody cruel.

Only yesterday I was talking to her telling her what treats I'd brought in for her. She's hysterical and now trying to hurt herself. I'm not even allowed into the house to see her because of the rules and believe me we've followed them to the letter for months.

Twizbe · 19/12/2020 18:55

@TheWichitaWineOne

The original Christmas 5 day free for all (more or less) was so blatantly fucking stupid, it was always going to be a U-turn. BJ is an incompetent, populist fuckwit who couldn't face delivering unpopular news.

It's been as plain as day for almost two weeks that the government would need to do something. The 'new strain' is the U-turn that BJ wasn't leader enough to announce.

It wasn't a free for all. It was 3 exclusive households. Two households have been able to form bubbles for ages. This was just adding one more and it was only for those few days
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tigerbear · 19/12/2020 18:56

@WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo I’m sorry, that sounds unbearably awful. 😔

compulsiveliar2019 · 19/12/2020 18:59

What really really pissed me off is the sanctimonious posters who are blaming this on the public. No this is a virus it's doing what viruses do! People are not being selfish by wanting to see their families and friends. We are social beings and this is no way to live. Lockdowns don't work as a long term solution. Fine if we could have got rid of it back in the spring but it had spread too far by then. Yes we need to keep numbers at a manageable level for the nhs but we seem to have forgotten that anything other than covid exists. At some point we need to accept that death is part of life and that all of us are mortal. And that it's not selfish to look after ourselves and our loved ones.

Mumof3andlovingit · 19/12/2020 19:00

I’m listening to both sides of the argument here. I’m not sure where I stand. Obviously not a fan of restrictions or lockdowns. Who is? But at the same time I’m not a fan of allowing the virus run free which in turn will just overwhelm the NHS, cause more problems for those seeking non urgent medical procedures and kill those who probably still have decades left if we didn’t have the virus.
The virus is very real. A colleague of mine just left hospital after having been admitted to the icu. He’s 37. Father of 4. Normal BMI, normal health. You know what his underlying condition was? Mild asthma that never stopped him from living a normal life participating in sports etc. In fact he had never even used an inhaler since his early twenties.
Now that’s not a virus that you can compare to others. Even if not very deadly it’s landing an awful lot of healthy young people in hospital.
I guess the government don’t really have a choice anymore. What else can they do? Our nation won’t comply with a strict one time lockdown for long enough like some other countries did. So I guess it’s just going to be like this until the vaccine is administered to the majority.

janetmendoza · 19/12/2020 19:02

God some selfish selfish people on this thread.Dh has helped so many coronavirus patients this year. 14 died at our hospital yesterday alone. His is giving up his day off tomorrow to vaccinate the elderly, so they don't have to wait one day longer than necessary. And yet in the back of his ambulance come new year will be a load of selfish wankers who met up at Christmas and have caught it entirely self inflicted! He will continue to treat them with care and respect god knows why.

Originalyellowbelly · 19/12/2020 19:04

namechangenumber204 A lot of people have been abiding with the rules and have made arrangements to ensure they and their families stay as safe as possible, not everyone has been out and about leading lives as normal. Don't blame people like this for spreading the virus.

JustNotFunAnymore · 19/12/2020 19:06

[quote OohImBlindedByTheLights]**@DollyParton2* I agree with @Arboria* as you are being incredibly selfish. I hope your neighbours report you for flouting the rules. [/quote]
Me too!

Furngully · 19/12/2020 19:06

I am just so tired from this year. I'm a single mum and it's just been me and my 5year old daughter all year. I work full time and because of the nature of my job and demand for broadband services this year has meant I've been surviving on little to no sleep to keep on top of work and daughter. It was her bday a few weeks ago and it was just us again. We have been in isolation all week due to a case at my daughters school and I am done in.
Christmas day she is due to spend with her dad who has been anything but present this year and we had planned to see my mum and sister on boxing day as our Christmas day. My sister has a newborn and a hubby who works away a lit so needs mums support more than I do. I just don't know where I am to summon energy from to spend xmas day alone and force my daughter to spend another day with just me on boxing day.
I get that everyone has had a tough year but as many have said already Christmas day simply isn't an option for some. What do I do? I'm seriously starting to lose the plot but also in fear of getting really poorly should I get covid as I have asthma and the tabloids do nothing but scaremonger and increase hysteria and panic.

PurpleDaisies · 19/12/2020 19:06

People are not being selfish by wanting to see their families and friends.

No, not by wanting to see them but by flouting the rules they’re putting others against risk. That’s what’s selfish. Viruses can only spread through contact. The public are in control of who they see or don’t see.

iwantmyownicecreamvan · 19/12/2020 19:09

Well, following the rules will make no difference to my parents now as they both died in the spring - of Covid. But, hey - I am still following them. Am in a tier 3 area and will follow those rules.

People will still be able to speak to their parents and families over the holiday - I would be grateful just to be able to do that just one last time. I miss them every day, not just Christmas day.

toocold54 · 19/12/2020 19:09

Well aren't you so clever to have known things would change.

It’s not about being clever it’s just common sense to think that a new virus which we know very little about and a government that changes the rules every few days may result in plans having to change.

You can’t tell me that you would seriously book a really expensive holiday without thinking what would happen if the rules change.

Cecily42 · 19/12/2020 19:10

We all want to see our families and friends, but we can’t right now.

TheKeatingFive · 19/12/2020 19:10

God some selfish selfish people on this thread.Dh has helped so many coronavirus patients this year.

Just how long does he want me to stay away from my elderly parents for? It’s been coming up on eight months of this year now. They won’t live for ever and are well aware they can die from many other things than Covid.

I pay my taxes, I’ve never voted Tory, I even have private health insurance. I have supported the NHS to the best of my ability all my life.

alwayswantchocolate · 19/12/2020 19:11

We're tier 4, we (me, DH, 2 DC) were supposed to be meeting my brother (single household) and my Dad (single household, in our support bubble) on Christmas day. We all live in the same area, less than 1km radius.

My Dad has been isolating for months as he's vulnerable. My brother has arranged for a covid test on Monday through work and had arranged to isolate as well as this for 10 days before Christmas Day.

We are eligible for a home testing kit as the kids are in school in what was a tier 3 area until today's announcement. And once the kids came home from the last day of school, we had cancelled all plans so we could isolate for as long as possible. So hopefully we will all have negative test results before Christmas Day.

Now we can't meet. Well, my Dad can come round. But my brother will spend Christmas day alone. We don't have any other family, there is no other 'branch' that my brother can form a bubble with. My dad could meet him instead although he's on our bubble which he's not supposed to break. And then he won't see his grandchildren which he's been looking forward to doing for weeks now.

How absolutely awful is this. Our risk to each other will be tiny due to the isolating and the tests. And yet someone is going to be alone at Christmas.

Astressie · 19/12/2020 19:13

I haven't read the whole thread, sorry!!

But now getting quietly drunk after not seeing my daughter today (she's in London) it's her birthday, first time I haven't seen her on her birthday and have not seen anyone else for about a month.

Just told her she can't come home for Xmas day due to new restrictions. She is, for some reason going to her boyfriends parents, despite restrictions. All her friends are ignoring restrictions too.

My main thought is the number of deaths is the same now as at the height of the crises. People have lost touch with reality. No rolling lists of deaths anymore or inside stories of hospitals in crises on TV. OUR COUNTRY IS ON IT"S KNEES. I am distraught at not being able to see my daughter not really that concerned that I will catch it. But trying to prevent UK wide deaths. 547 DEATHS TODAY. Think of what will happen after Christmas!!!!!!!!@!

Twizbe · 19/12/2020 19:13

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toocold54 · 19/12/2020 19:13

@WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo are single adult households not allowed to form support bubbles anymore either?

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