I'm fucking done

[Twizbe]

I'm done. We've been isolating ready to see my parents and now we can't.

This is the third time now we've had to cancel plans last min and I'm sick of it! Totally sick of it!

Can anyone tell me why its riskier to see my PIL on boxing day compared to xmas day?

if people don’t follow the rules it’s not going away and now it’s mutating
It has always been mutating, that's what viruses do. And many mutations are actually a good thing as often mutations make the virus less deadly. The word "mutation" conjures up people growing extra heads and super viruses suddenly appearing. It doesn't work that way.

@lozjay

Get a grip some people's family are dead due to COVID how about that !!

And many many many have lost jobs due to lockdown, plunged into poverty, mental illness has spiked, suicides are on the increase, other illnesses have been ignored and people have given up nearly a year of their lives. If people want to see their family and all members are consenting adults then just bloody let them. Stop guilt tripping people for putting their own needs first for once.

Well, now moving into tier 4. Family are at the other end of the country and I've no transport. I haven't seen them for a year. Only just got the presents wrapped today. Looks like home alone. Me and the goldfish!

Did the world fuck up its economies one after the other for the Spanish flu pandemic? 20 million died - mostly young and healthy - and people got on with life

That's not true. Perhaps you want to do some proper research.

I have been avoiding coming into close contact with my elderly or vulnerable family members because I wouldn’t forgive myself if I gave them the virus and they died.

What if they die of something else in the next year and you missed your last Christmas with them?

at have got us into this position - so basically you have brought it on yourself - yes, go ahead, eat your turkey and then next year don't you DARE fcking complain when you have to arrange a funeral - because SOMEHOW your loved one caught covid.*

Oh plllleeeeeeasasssee. I was predicting in April and others were here as well that this would be dragged on and on. And hey ho. We were right. I knew. I just KNEW that something new would be pulled out the bag to justify further lockdown and tougher restrictions over xmas. Now its a new strain. Just before xmas day. How convenient. Tell me would any other rhetoric have convinced you to comply with further restrictions AGAIN over xmas?

Psychological advisors really showing how much they're worth.

What if they die of something else in the next year and you missed your last Christmas with them?

Then I’d feel no guilt because I hadn’t been responsible for their death.

The same as if I drove drunk and had a car accident and my family member died vs driving sober, not speeding etc and my family member died because of a different drunk driver.

Count me as another one who is baffled that collective worship is still allowed, but mixing households isn't! Is it because of cultural sensitivity?

@myneighboursarerude

Fuck it. Fuck it all. We have maintained the same r rate for weeks in my area. Lower in fact. Nothing has changed.

We’ve been put on a harsher lockdown to soften the blow for London. Sick of it. Utterly done.

One rule for the north, one rule for the south.

We’re out of work, on the cusp of losing home, no savings left.

Nothing.

Fuck it all. No one gives a shit unless it’s London. They have no damn clue what they’re doing. It’s a joke.

This!!

For people who want to live like this for the rest of their life, feel free but some of us don’t and before people pile on killing elderly relatives mantra, they are all dead anyway. The relative who is most at risk lives in a different country.

Even if you look at the stats, they have that nice big * next to them - letting you know that the death rate doesn’t mean they died of COVID, only that they tested positive when they died. So they could have died from something completely unrelated but it’s still being piled onto the deaths.

The mass rise in infections is because we’ve rolled out mass testing, something that should have been done at the beginning of the year.

@WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo

We've been isolating for weeks. Had our covid tests today already for our disabled daughter to come home for Christmas.

She's an adult with a mental age of around 7. And it's all been stopped.

DD is hysterical and I'm not in a much better state, we can't even bend the rules as she's in a supported care home and believe me I would have if she hadn't been.

Imagine telling a seven year old they can only see their family for one day at Christmas and can't even sleep in their own bed ? Because that's what I've just had to do. Honestly done with it all now, we've rolled along for months doing what we've been asked to do but this is the final straw. The worse thing is that those people who have ignored the rules for months and carried on as normal won't be affected by any of this.

I'm so sorry, what a shit situation for you all

Yep, kept my daughter off nursery so we were safe to visit - so now no Christmas plans, frantic food shop and hundreds of pounds out of pocket for nothing

For some people collective worship is the only thing keeping them sane and why not, when schools, borders, and people are still travelling across tiers to work. None of it makes sense.

@DollyParton2

I’m not special. But your PIL being 90 puts them in a much more vulnerable bracket. My family are not. Everyone needs to weigh up the very different scenarios / risk for themselves.

Everyone does NOT need to weigh up the different scenarios/risks for themselves - because there's an overwhelming probability that they're as shit at that as they are at neurosurgery.

Epidemiologists train for years for this stuff. Doris on Facebook is not going to give you a more nuanced assessment of your individual risk FFS.

OP I'm sorry, it's shit. It's all shit.

I'm in Tier 2 and still not decided whether to see family. I'm not worried so much for me but mainly for them. I rather forsake one day then never see them again due to this bloody virus. If you see family then you both know the risks obviously if you've been isolating the risks will be very low.

@CatherineOfAragonsPomegranate

For some people collective worship is the only thing keeping them sane and why not, when schools, borders, and people are still travelling across tiers to work. None of it makes sense.

The promise of being able to see my parents was keeping me sane ...

The original Christmas 5 day free for all (more or less) was so blatantly fucking stupid, it was always going to be a U-turn. BJ is an incompetent, populist fuckwit who couldn't face delivering unpopular news.

It's been as plain as day for almost two weeks that the government would need to do something. The 'new strain' is the U-turn that BJ wasn't leader enough to announce.

Is it because of cultural sensitivity?

I think it’s more the fact that Xmas is a religious holiday to celebrate the birth of Jesus so only those who celebrate the birth of Jesus should celebrate Xmas (which is not many) - and I think there would be riots that ‘we are a Christian country and are not allowed to celebrate a Christian holiday.’

I agree that it’s stupid that people can mix for religious reasons but not with their immediate family members!

@Cecily42

It comes across so ridiculous when people get angry with Boris Johnson. He is doing what he has to do and I actually think he is showing leadership. Never thought the day would come when I would say that!

I think there is a lot of misdirected anger here. A mutation that leads covid to be 70% more transmissible is a big deal. I believe Whitty and Valance too as the numbers in Ashford, Kent, a town near me, have shot up out of nowhere this week. 931 recorded cases in a week and our local hospital trust has 86% more patients in it than in the spring peak (and the spring peak was pretty damn bad here).

If it was remotely feasible someone as soft touch as Boris would have left Christmas be.

SO MANY OPINIONS!

HAVE SOME MORE!

@Kjc39 you may be right, that’s what we’re afraid of. However, maybe not. They’re otherwise in relatively ok health, aside from FIL not being able to walk far, so if we went and gave it to them, we’d feel awful.

Although I’m calling them PIL, they aren’t officially yet / DP and I were due to get married this year, but obv it was cancelled. I’m more focused on keeping them safe until after they’ve had the vaccine, so there’s the chance they’ll be able to be there, alive and well, for our wedding (whenever the fuck that might be, but scheduled for next August as it stands)

@is2020over I’m sorry to hear that, it’s incredibly shit for all business owners affected.

Count me as another one who is baffled that collective worship is still allowed, but mixing households isn't! Is it because of cultural sensitivity?

Cultural sensitivity would have been not cancelling Eid the evening before . Completely shafted yet some still try to find something to blame minorities for. For what it's worth, there have been strict measures at places of worship: hand sanitisers at entrances, bring your own prayer mat, one way systems, enforced social distancing and mask wearing by volunteer stewards. Complete opposite of what is going on in people's homes when they've had a drink or two.

@percheron67

I imagine everyone is sick of it. However, what else can Boris do? He didn't cause Covid but has to try and control the spread for the good of ALL. We all knew this was on the cards in order to try and gain some control over the virus.

Dominic Cummings, Eat out to Help Out, accusing people of using COVID as an excuse to not go back to work... This is what demolished the compliance.

I, and every one I knew followed the first lock down to a t.

The promise of being able to see my parents was keeping me sane ...

I am surprised how so many people are acting shocked that the rules have changed.

The government should have never said people could definitely mix so far in advance but surely people have to take some responsibility seeing as the rules have been constantly changing since April and often with little notice.