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Christmas IS going to be cancelled - last minute.

726 replies

Elephant4 · 18/12/2020 23:35

Isn't it?

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/18/boris-johnson-calls-crisis-meeting-to-discuss-response-to-new-covid-strain

They're panicking now.

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thereinmadnesslies · 19/12/2020 13:57

@RedToothBrush thanks

RedToothBrush · 19/12/2020 14:00

@henrymance
@danwooton

as well.

Its doing the rounds pretty well.

Frostythesnowwoman · 19/12/2020 14:01

@RedToothBrush

They are literally all quote tweeting this tweet from an alt account with one tweet? twitter.com/Carolin64723572/status/1340288874472493059?s=20

Seems a bit fishy I think? See comments below the original tweet questioning its source. The journalist in question has another twitter account which seems legit.

Jourdain11 · 19/12/2020 14:03

@SideEying Your instincts are good Wink

(Yes - it was, absolutely and 100%, sarcasm.)

RedToothBrush · 19/12/2020 14:03

I should point out i had doubts about that caroline wheeler account but there is a caroline wheeler who is the deputy political editor at the sunday times and that has been retweeted by at least two Times journalists (and an 'insider' account I follow). I can not see them doing it if fake. Most likely a personal account.

Chaotic45 · 19/12/2020 14:03

@WhatwouldAnneFrankthinkofus

As much as I don't like Bojo and his cronies, the government can't win on this one. If he imposes lockdown , people will say "what about the businesses, we are finished, we have already bought our turkey to feed three families etc " , if he doesn't impose lockdown and strict rules during Christmas people will say " he's incompetent , NHS is under pressure etc". No one can predict what can happen with a virus and the government are trying their best to please the people(and their own cronies i dare say) and also stop these very people from getting killed by the virus. People have become so very entitled about merry making at Christmas, its no longer a celebration of the birth of Christ. It's just another opportunity for us to indulge ourselves. We are very lucky we don't have to hide underground to stop bombs falling on our heads or that as a nation we don't have to worry about the next flood or famine. Surely we should be able to curtail our eating, drinking , merry making and indulging ourselves for the sake of not only our own health but also for everyone else's health during this pandemic. While we are eating, drinking and indulging ourselves and merry making please remember there will be doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers at work trying to save lives, whilst putting their own lives at risk.
I wholeheartedly agree with all of this except that I don't think they should have made an announcement about the Christmas bubbles so early. After making the announcement it was so hard for them to retract or change it without attracting an enormous backlash.

I just don't understand why they didn't leave it longer given the unpredictable nature of the virus.

Although if all the leaders of our devolved nations agreed that the timing was right then who is little Chaotic45 to argue?

Frostythesnowwoman · 19/12/2020 14:05

@RedToothBrush

I should point out i had doubts about that caroline wheeler account but there is a caroline wheeler who is the deputy political editor at the sunday times and that has been retweeted by at least two Times journalists (and an 'insider' account I follow). I can not see them doing it if fake. Most likely a personal account.
But it only has one tweet? Wonder if they just recognised the name?

Seems odd that the one leak would be to an alt account set up this year with no tweets! But I'm no expert...

RedToothBrush · 19/12/2020 14:07

I don't know but all these journalists seem - for whatever reason - to think its legitimate.

We shall find out soon enough.

Manchester News MEN @MENnewsdesk
BREAKING: Welsh government to hold emergency cabinet meeting at 2pm, ahead of Boris Johnson announcement at 4pm - Wales has already said it will go into full lockdown again after Christmas

Why???

midgebabe · 19/12/2020 14:08

@TheKeatingFive

it's that the NHS will be overwhelmed, morgues will be overwhelmed, there will be no medical treatment available.

There are others ways of dealing with that. We have chosen to lockdown instead of contemplating them, but as lockdowns become less and less effective, we may have to rethink.

What ways please?
RedToothBrush · 19/12/2020 14:09

Gabriel Pogrund @Gabriel_Pogrund
To clear up any confusion: this is indeed the Twitter account of Caroline Wheeler, Sunday Times deputy political editor. She’s locked out of her old one.

From a colleague.

thereinmadnesslies · 19/12/2020 14:11

@RedToothBrush Gabriel Pogrund has just tweeted that it’s a genuine account

Christmas IS going to be cancelled - last minute.
bluebeck · 19/12/2020 14:13

@CantSayJack

Christmas isn’t cancelled though is it. People can still celebrate, just keep to your own households or pay the price in January. Quite simple really.
Totally agree with this.

Government is a total shitshow but it's hugely over dramatic to say Christmas is cancelled.

Frostythesnowwoman · 19/12/2020 14:14

Yes does seem genuine - in which case - Tier 4 stay at home order for London, South East and East - does that include areas which are currently Tier 2 I wonder?

And - Christmas bubbles only allowed on Xmas day itself for Tiers 1-3 - so no travelling to family for anyone (unless day trips)?

RedToothBrush · 19/12/2020 14:14

Yep. I did try and do due diligence before assuming it was real as the account did look odd... It was only after seeing colleagues taking seriously I decided to post here. I'm not daft.

RedToothBrush · 19/12/2020 14:17

BBC now saying T4 expected for london and the south east. (am watching bbc news)

NeurotreeWenceslas · 19/12/2020 14:18

Yes was a lot to say a few different journos saying the t4 stuff.

Medievalist · 19/12/2020 14:23

Government is a total shitshow but it's hugely over dramatic to say Christmas is cancelled.

It's a figure of speech fgs! Would people please stop taking it so literally!

Frostythesnowwoman · 19/12/2020 14:26

Laura Kuenssberg now confirming Tier 4 for London/SE with overall tightening of Christmas rules

willsantausesantatize · 19/12/2020 14:28

T4 means what does anyone know?

HopeAndDriftWood · 19/12/2020 14:30

@willsantausesantatize Only what’s above - a stay at home order by law, no mixing of households.

RedToothBrush · 19/12/2020 14:30

@willsantausesantatize

T4 means what does anyone know?
Stay The Fuck Home

only in 3 words.

MarshaBradyo · 19/12/2020 14:30

Fuck sake

AuntieStella · 19/12/2020 14:31

@willsantausesantatize

T4 means what does anyone know?
The pundit I've just heard has said it's essentially a 'stay at home' order

I'd be surprised if they made low risk area Xmas bubbles 1 day only - think of the traffic!

midgebabe · 19/12/2020 14:31

I really hope outside exercise will be allowed. Not full lockdown.

Thewiseoneincognito · 19/12/2020 14:31

Whoever thought announcing Christmas bubbles would ever be a good idea needs firing. The chaos and confusion it has caused will bring lasting damage to many families who have took it as a sign of ‘let your guard down because the gov said it’s ok to do so’.

The shops are heaving, maskless exempts everywhere (surely if you’re exempt because of ill health you should reconsider you’re reasoning for being out in large crowds during a friggin pandemic!) and mixing of households is off the charts. We will be locked down for spring once again. What a shit show. To be fair it’s not just us, the US is an infected mess, Europe is riddled and locking down again too but still, ffs. 🤯

2021 will be worse than 2020 that’s for sure, never mind once they realise the vaccine does sod all....

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