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Has anyone else lost the will to care?

624 replies

whatToDoHerre · 17/12/2020 21:46

I have. I barely care about anything anymore. I don't know what we are fighting for - if this is life then is it worth living? We are not living, we are only existing at this point.

We could be in for months and months of restrictions and there's even talk of a third lockdown. Because the first two worked so well?

In a few short months a whole year of our lives will have been restricted.

If there is light at the end of this tunnel it's a very long tunnel, and I don't think we've travelled very far.

OP posts:
RaspberryCoulis · 19/12/2020 11:15

Could you be more patronising?

Doubt it.

But gyms are open! Pools are open! (Never mind that in my area organised classes are banned, as are team sports for adults. If you wanted to go swimming, you'd have to book in advance, and arrive and leave in your cozzie. Nice.)

It's this sort of blinkered thinking which is so annoying. That poster obviously likes reading and running so she's fine. I like singing in a choir, meeting my knitting group at the pub and going out for evening meals. I can do NONE of that at the moment. Because Queen Covid Nicola says no singing, no pubs and no hospitality after 6pm.

LunaAzul · 19/12/2020 11:15

@hamstersarse

Humans thrive on variety and spontaneity

Posts about going for a walk again really fuck me off

Absolutely! I miss being able to wake up and decide what we are going to do that day as everywhere needs to be booked in advance.
Iheartmysmart · 19/12/2020 11:17

Piss off Pollyanna!

AlwaysWinterNeverChristmas · 19/12/2020 11:17

So so so done with all this bullshit.
The positivity from the vaccine being approved lasted all of 49 minutes before the government pivoted straight back to doom and blame.
The posters going on about yet another walk are so patronising, it takes my breath away. We're these people so blind to others suffering before the pandemic or is it their lockdown skill?

Didyousaynutella · 19/12/2020 11:18

Fine whatever. Wallow in misery. Just trying to show how I am getting through this and maybe provide a bit of inspiration. If people want to be miserable then go for it and nasty about it then good for them.
I didn’t choose to love like this anymore than anyone else. I just don’t want it to let it get me down. I have had periods where I have struggled myself. Three young normally very active kids stuck in lockdown was hell for me. This to me is a breeze by comparison so I am doing everything I can to make it better. Sorry not bloody sorry.

SufferingFromLongLockdown · 19/12/2020 11:18

@Didyousaynutella

I’m not finding it that bad. You just have to find stuff. I have two school ages kids and one pre schooler. I am busy as ever, just doing different things. I joined a run group and gonout once a week with them in the evening. I go out for a walk most evenings or very early weeken mornings with a mate. I found a sports class for my two year old to do in the week. My older kids do two different sports classes a week. I work part time. We’ve found a few Christmas activities to do. Mostly involve tramping about looking at lights but the kids seem happy enough. I go to the park a lot after school or meet a couple of other toddler mums with the little one. Yes am sick of washing coats and puddle suits. But hey ho. We get takeaway one or two nights a week to feel like we are treating ourselves.
I can find stuff to do for me but I'm not going to suggest sea swimming and the other cold, sort of risky sport I do might be anyone elses cup of tea. It works better than counting my blessings though.

Sadly there's naff all for my teenagers to do. The things that tempt them out of the house and activities we can do together as a family aren't happening. I miss the days when they'd get excited at the prospect of a walk to the park for an ice cream and a splash in the mud. It just doesn't cut it these days.
It's a time where their peers become important but so is reconnecting with your family to keep some balance. They're in a little angsty bubble of internet socialising plus a bit of college and frankly, I'm worried about the group culture that's developing without the balance of input from the much wider variety of people that they'd usually see. It takes a village is definitely true with teenagers.

DuesToTheDirt · 19/12/2020 11:20

And now I'm getting worried by all this talk of further lockdown in the new year. In January DD is starting a new job in a different town, and is just signing for a room rental - but if it all falls through because of another bloody lockdown.... Angry

IcedPurple · 19/12/2020 11:20

Fine whatever. Wallow in misery. Just trying to show how I am getting through this and maybe provide a bit of inspiration.

No disrespect, but the 'go for a walk' and 'go to the park' thing has been done to the death for months now, so you're hardly 'providing inspiration'.

A lot of people have lost all of the things they love doing for nearly a year, with no end date in sight. Going for the 100th walk isn't going to help.

Coldasfish · 19/12/2020 11:21

I can't say I have ever been fussed or have stuck to anything.

I'm not putting any restrictions on my life. From masking to social distancing. I would rather life go back to normal and instead the fearful stay indoors.

AlwaysWinterNeverChristmas · 19/12/2020 11:22

I'm in Wales. There has been a ban on alcohol served for a while now, which forces the closure of pubs and several restaurants which depend on alcohol sales. Now they've announced a fresh lockdown on the 28th with no end date. As a result, most of the remaining restaurants have shut their doors now, as they don't see the point in limping along for a measly few days.

Outdoor attractions are shut. (yes, riddle me the logic in that)
Indoor attractions are shut.
Cinemas are shut.
Gyms will be shutting tomorrow.

It's been pissing a storm for days on end.

I want to scream when posters tell me to light another candle or go on another walk.

IcedPurple · 19/12/2020 11:24

But gyms are open! Pools are open! (Never mind that in my area organised classes are banned, as are team sports for adults. If you wanted to go swimming, you'd have to book in advance, and arrive and leave in your cozzie. Nice.)

Yeah, my pool is open but you have to book in advance, arrive already changed, be out after 50 minutes and the sauna and jacuzzi are closed. I'm not a serious swimmer and went more for relaxation than hard exercise, so where's the joy in that?

If it was just one thing, I could live with it. But all of the little joys in life, as well as the bigger things such as holidays to look forward to, have gone.

TempsPerdu · 19/12/2020 11:24

Gyms are open. I was always a gym lover before but my two year old prevents it as cant put him in the crèche. You can swim if that’s your thing! Whatever. Just be proactive and look for stuff to do

My gym has been my lifeline since it reopened - it’s a nice private one with a lovely pool, cafe and soft play. A nice, normal, non-masky place to take DD with sensible but not excessive covid measures.

But even there there’s no escape now - we’ve just moved into Tier 3 so they’ve removed all the seating from the lounge area and barricaded the soft play shut. Went last night for a swim and the place was like a ghost town. No indoor group exercise so they’ve had to erect open-sided tents in the car park, which were flapping all over the place. There are also continual automated messages, obviously the result of some government diktat, instructing you to keep apart/sanitise/clean the equipment/shower for a specific amount of time/only exercise with your household. There is literally no escape from it all and I feel like I’ve lost my last bastion of relative sanity.

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 19/12/2020 11:25

@IcedPurple I am personally holding out for Oxford vaccine, I’m very wary of accepting the Pfizer vaccine since they have been given protection against prosecution

IcedPurple · 19/12/2020 11:28

[quote AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii]@IcedPurple I am personally holding out for Oxford vaccine, I’m very wary of accepting the Pfizer vaccine since they have been given protection against prosecution[/quote]
I'll take any that's offered. Including the Chinese and Russian vaccines.

RaspberryCoulis · 19/12/2020 11:28

And actually, given the moaning on my local FB page, the local council in this area has not re-opened gyms/leisure centres. So unless you're a member of a private gym and can get through on their booking system to get a slot, there will be no swimming and no gym in my area.

Have you thought about going for a walk - not providing "inspiration", given that it's been about the only thing we've actually been ALLOWED to do since 23rd March.

Schonerlebnis · 19/12/2020 11:30

If lockdown doesn't work then what's the solution ?
Presumably let the non vulnerable get on with life and the rest try to keep safe ? Bad luck if you get it but that's life, just got to get used to it like flu ?
Is that what people are advocating ?

Didyousaynutella · 19/12/2020 11:31

The sucks temp. I do really miss the gym but I put my membership on freeze as I was a class lover and trying to sync classes and the crèche was nigh on impossible. I just don’t have time to go in the evening and hate just pounding the treadmill. My run club suits me for now as just fly out of the door the second the younger kids are down and it’s on my doorstep.

forwardsbackwardsrebound · 19/12/2020 11:35

Presumably let the non vulnerable get on with life and the rest try to keep safe ? Bad luck if you get it but that's life, just got to get used to it like flu ? Is that what people are advocating ?

After phase 1 of the vaccine, yes as much as possible to this. Otherwise, we will be in and out of lockdown for years. Impossible. Society will fall apart.

I know many people who have had flu or glandular fever who have long lasting effects for years and years, like covid. We do not shut ourselves away for this. No one cared when people were dying from flu. Once the elderly and clinically vulnerable are vaccinated, we get on with life. no?

What are you suggesting long term?

IcedPurple · 19/12/2020 11:37

@Schonerlebnis

If lockdown doesn't work then what's the solution ? Presumably let the non vulnerable get on with life and the rest try to keep safe ? Bad luck if you get it but that's life, just got to get used to it like flu ? Is that what people are advocating ?
Once the most vulnerable have been vaccinated, pretty much yes.
SufferingFromLongLockdown · 19/12/2020 11:38

People do live very different lives - We're in a poor area. Private gyms do not have swimming pools here. The nearest would be a good drive away, adding over an hour travel time to the time spent in the gym, so not feasible.

Didyousaynutella · 19/12/2020 11:39

Iced purple I didn’t just say go for a walk. A said a bunch of other things. And yes going for a walk is dull but going with a mate and a brew def helps.

AlwaysWinterNeverChristmas · 19/12/2020 11:42

I was enjoying reading this thread, but now it's turned into an argument with the emotion-police. Another thread ruined.

Why I keep coming back to MN, I'll never know.

Hiding this thread now. As you were.

Elephant4 · 19/12/2020 11:42

It’s like being a child all over again. Being given instructions and boundaries. Every time we get a bit of adult autonomy back we remember what life used to be like. Then it’s taken away again - we feel fury for a moment- and then go back to childlike acceptance.

ImAllOut · 19/12/2020 11:43

AlwaysWinterNeverChristmas I'm with you! People suggesting gyms, pools, attractions etc forget that some of us have been pretty much under restrictions since March. We never had the rule of 6 in Wales, the most we had was 3 households, so I've basically just seen my parents and siblings since March. I travelled to see a friend in England once in the summer because parks opened there three weeks before they did in Wales.

But yes, off we go into another Welsh lockdown despite the fact that all they do is delay the inevitable. At the end of this one the shops will be absolutely flooded with people returning stuff from Christmas that they've had to wait at least a month to do. Our health boards are shit regardless. Our ventilator beds are full now, but there were only 21 in our health board to start with, for 4/5 of the most populated regions in Wales with high figures.

bumbleymummy · 19/12/2020 11:44

I miss spontaneity too! Repetitive routines just sap the joy.