Has anyone else lost the will to care?

[whatToDoHerre]

I have. I barely care about anything anymore. I don't know what we are fighting for - if this is life then is it worth living? We are not living, we are only existing at this point.

We could be in for months and months of restrictions and there's even talk of a third lockdown. Because the first two worked so well?

In a few short months a whole year of our lives will have been restricted.

If there is light at the end of this tunnel it's a very long tunnel, and I don't think we've travelled very far.

@Pootle40 - and that may be ok for you to do but lots of people can’t just not go to work or children not attend school for two week/ten days so if they don’t test they lose two weeks for potentially no reason. People generally test to be able to carry on with a negative result.

I can’t ignore the sentiment that it’s fine to use care homes and the vulnerable as canaries to alert us to a problem instead of trying to prevent the spread in the first place. I find that attitude unsettling.

@Taystee29

Also done with it too. The STFAH police can do one. All these people on MN who know 15 people under the age of 40 who have either died or have 'long Covid' hmmm ok.

Totally agree. It's like one person knows almost the entire stats for the UK

I'm exaggerating slightly of course but you get my point

Is it me or are there people on here where the phrase 'I think you're on the wrong thread' applies to.......

Totally agree. It's like one person knows almost the entire stats for the UK

This happens on home birth threads too, hundreds and hundreds of posters who would be dead if they’d had a home birth.

@MassiveSalad

If others agree maybe we could keep this thread going - it is nice to feel that you aren't alone with your feelings and struggles?

We definitely should. I've longed for you kindred spirits for months.

They closed a couple of days before lockdown. Not 2 - 3 weeks before

But people were already aware they were to close. People had begun to take it seriously in the weeks prior the 23rd.
Widespread criticism of the Cheltenham Festival to go ahead on the 10th of March
We knew we would follow Italy, lockdown 9th of March
Rishi Sunak budget 11th March, when he set out unprecedented measures
WHO declared pandemic 11th March
Spain going into lockdown 15th March and people scrambling to get back to the UK
UK advise all non essential travel to cease 16th March

This was allover our news before the 23rd

Are you denying that the first lockdown worked by bringing down the rate of infection and deaths?

@MassiveSalad

In fact, I wish I could retract my post because I have zero wish to interact with somebody who can't read a room.

It is amazing how many ICU doctors and nurses there are on MN. Almost as many as the people who know 5 people under 40 who died of it.

@Taystee29

Lockdown isn't sustainable. Do they really think people are going to adhere to the same 3-4 month lockdown we had the first time round ? No way.

I'll kill myself if that happens.

I mean it.

@Pootle40

Is it me or are there people on here where the phrase 'I think you're on the wrong thread' applies to.......

Aw come on now, at least have enough courage in your convictions to address people directly instead of cowardly passive aggressive posts.

I’ll post where I like thanks. Maybe MN have a moderator position you could apply for if you want to police where people post?

@Flaxmeadow please go away

Well for everyone who was enjoying this thread and taking comfort from the safe space to have a rational conversation without the dementors joining us....unfortunately we've been infiltrated for now. If we stay quiet they might get bored and go away.

Are you denying that the first lockdown worked by bringing down the rate of infection and deaths

It inevitably did, however there's a strong possibility that it went on too long, forcing there to be more cases that might have been milder over summer to be delayed to winter.

The first lockdown worked but subsequent lockdowns didn't. They delay the inevitable. Wales' cases rocketed two weeks after everyone was allowed out again. Caerphilly have been in some form of lockdown since September with fuck all effect on their figures caerphilly.observer/news/995549/daily-coronavirus-statistics/
Merthyr have also been in some form since September and have the highest cases in Wales and some of the highest in the UK. Cwm Taf and Aneurin Bevan are shit normally anyway, and no amount of lockdowns will help that unfortunately.
Leicester were in an extended lockdown and have just gone back to Tier 3.
How can people possibly argue that lockdowns work? They just delay everyone going out at exactly the same time again.

I'm just tired.

@dementedma
I am not a dog - that has really made me chuckle.

Myself and my friends are getting through it with a lot of black humour. We currently have a Facebook going on the first event of 2021. So far, the front-runners are:

• Cthulu rises out of the ocean
• Invasion by the Borg
• Cats take over the world.
• Meteorite. Bruce Willis is unavailable.

See? It could be worse.

@Lostinacloud

Your post is brilliant. Complete common sense, thank you!

@TheABC

Yep, black humour for us as well.......

I am almost convinced that we are in "Cabin in the Woods 2"......

I walked past a river yesterday and for a brief moment thought about jumping off it into the water, then thought it's not deep enough and walked off. I was then so disgusted with myself for thinking that and the thought of leaving my children without me. So don't tell me all I need to think about is Covid and stuff the rest because it's because of Covid I felt like this. It's like nothing else matters other than Covid - can't have a bad day, because someone else is worse etc etc and be thankful. Well yesterday I didn't feel thankful I felt completely alone and sad.

@Pootle40 Calling people dementors is out of order. There's a whole thread on chat for that.
How come people are allowed to express their frustrations about lockdown, talk about not being able to cope etc but as soon as someone mentions that it's also pretty depressing being at the front end of it all we are shut down, told we are irrational and no one actually believes us.

Yep completely with you OP. Live on my own and have been working from home since March. Fed up with protecting the NHS when it’s been nothing but a shitshow for my family, fed up with Boris and his band of incompetents and fucked off with not being able to express these views without being told I’m a granny killer!
Any factual comments posted on our local paper website are swiftly removed if they don’t fit the agenda. I dared to mention that cases in our town are 0.12% of the population and this was deleted but a “10% rise in cases - obey the roolz” comment left!

[quote Schonerlebnis]@Pootle40 Calling people dementors is out of order. There's a whole thread on chat for that.
How come people are allowed to express their frustrations about lockdown, talk about not being able to cope etc but as soon as someone mentions that it's also pretty depressing being at the front end of it all we are shut down, told we are irrational and no one actually believes us.[/quote]
I personally don't mean any bad feeling against those who are working in the wards, we've seen the images/videos - it looks ghastly, I can't even imagine how hard it must be.

Problem is, year after year we hear of hospitals overrun, staff over worked, flu crisis etc and no-one bats an eyelid. Now, society has ground to a halt, we are forbidden to see our friends and family or have any joy or colour in our lives. It's relentless grey and will continue to be so for months more, and for what? Lockdown after lockdown and nothing seems to get better. We can all hope that things are better by Easter, but come next Autumn, are we back in national lockdowns again??

This thread was brilliant, thank you all. I'm so sorry the usual fanatics have turned up to tell us how awful we all are.
It makes me want to go and breathe on their grannies.

@SufferingFromLongLockdown

Are you denying that the first lockdown worked by bringing down the rate of infection and deaths

It inevitably did, however there's a strong possibility that it went on too long, forcing there to be more cases that might have been milder over summer to be delayed to winter.

The first lockdown also had the seasonal factor on its side, and even Chris Witty has now conceded that Covid follows seasonal patterns. I know Sweden is overdone, but they did IIRC see a pretty similar pattern of decline going into & over the summer to countries which did lockdown. Cases got so low there over the summer that they made the UK green list for a while.

Someone on Twitter compared our current Covid policy to advocating complete sexual abstinence till marriage as the solution to STIs. Yes it would indeed 'work' if the population as a whole complied fully, but they won't, so it doesn't.

@RockPaperScissorsLizardSpock73

Hang in there. So sad to hear you are feeling so low. I know it doesn’t feel like it and we are all here expressing how fed up we are but there will be an end, whether that’s a natural end when the virus becomes endemic or an end where enough people feel the same as us and regulations can no longer be enforced, it will pass and you will have fun times again with your DC who will be damn glad you’re still around.

Have a few days off social media and the news and blast out some uplifting tunes in your house. Also, sod the rules, if you have a friend willing to come round, open up your doors without a second thought. As far as I’m concerned that is action to save a life and so why is it any less allowed than “saving” someone you don’t know from covid?