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Are they really going to cancel Christmas?

718 replies

fedupfrances · 15/12/2020 13:59

And if they do, will loads of people just break the rules anyway?

It’s sodding ridiculous - myself and DP have barely left the house last week and won’t be going out this week either, other than walks in our local park. My parents have also been at home pretty much constantly. None of us has Covid 19 and the risk of catching it if we get together at Christmas is practically zero. So fed up with this shite!

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fedupfrances · 15/12/2020 16:05

as a kid I loved big, chaotic family Christmases and thought the years we had it at home just the four of us were boring and anticlimatic.

Same here.

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likeamillpond · 15/12/2020 16:07

@Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady

For those of you who enjoy spending Christmas with your "little family and not being forced to spend it with others and endure "forced" holiday...That's great for you.

Some of us love people outside of our household and don't have to be forced to enjoy their company! Sick to death of seeing shitty smug posts like that

I love people. I'm very sociable. I'm also not scared of my own company.

But it's not the end of the world to have to spend one Christmas in your own house.
Saying Christmas is ruined is a bit melodramatic.

stovetopespresso · 15/12/2020 16:07

@unseendoreen it can spread in all sorts of ways apparently its quite crafty like that.

Covidnomore · 15/12/2020 16:07

People are back to being judgemental again and I bet a lot of people saying stay home no mixing can't honestly say they haven't broke a single rule

It's not really about breaking the rules though.

I don't really give a toss about the rules.

I do give a toss about my family which is why we are not going to see them. We consider it too high risk.

Others may have a different view. Fair enough.

Many could make better decisions than they do, and it may come back to bite them.

I hope it doesn't affect my family though...........

walksen · 15/12/2020 16:08

I'm getting quite upset about this possibility. I live alone and haven't seen my parents for a year. I think it is hypocritical to now say they must act to prevent spread when

Cases in the north are dropping fast after months in lockdown.

I got infected about 2 months ago along with at least half my colleagues because the government have let covid burn through my workplace and take legal action to allow it to continue to do so.

The way I look at it I have a narrow window to see my folks without infecting them before I have to worry about catching it again in spring.

I've been struggling with the fatigue from covid and have soldiered on but I've been looking forward to a rest and bit of company before we get put back in lockdown in january

timeforanewstart · 15/12/2020 16:09

@likeamillpond have you been to some of supermarkets and seen how bUsy they are , personally i avoid as much as possible and only certain amount turkeys etc will of been ordered
Plus we don't get paid until end of month I don't have the money to go but a turkey and trimmings for which I haven't budgeted , Yes we could have pizza and not starve but pretty shit for the kids. People are not following half rules now i have seen several on sm in groups of 6 in tier 2 meeting up inside pubs, homes and restaurants
Plenty if my neighbours have visitors in and out , groups of teenagers are hanging around
Yet a lot of people i know because they plan to spend xmas with family they are really now starting to limit interactions so who knows maybe a week of people doing this , schools finishing will all help with numbers
The goverment have no control over xmas

UnseenDoreen · 15/12/2020 16:10

[quote stovetopespresso]@unseendoreen it can spread in all sorts of ways apparently its quite crafty like that.[/quote]
Of course it can. So let's all stay locked up permanently shall we? We are entering la-la land.

MagicSummer · 15/12/2020 16:11

I'll just be glad when the whole Christmas season is over and we can go back to trying to overcome the virus once and for all - I am pretty sure that there will be a third lockdown when all the Christmas infection works its way through the population. What a shame people couldn't just have a quiet one this year.

FourTeaFallOut · 15/12/2020 16:11

It's amazing how the mental health wellbeing of the nation apparently hangs on being able to mix with three households at Christmas and yet apparently remains robust against the necessary lockdowns and restrictions that will follow on account of those five days. Confused

Belladonna12 · 15/12/2020 16:11

[quote StatisticalSense]@luckylavender
Christmas is different in that much of the essential infrastructure shuts down over Xmas but remains open for the rest of the year. You simply cannot suddenly tell people who may have no food in the house that they can't go to the place where they were planning on accessing food if places to buy food aren't open.[/quote]
Why will people have no food in house?. Christmas is 10 days away. People have plenty of time to go shopping, assuming they change the rules in the near future.

UnseenDoreen · 15/12/2020 16:11

@likeamillpond

Sorry, you don't get it. Try 9 months alone unable to see your friends and family inside. You haven't experienced that, nor are likely to, so stop being so patronising.

likeamillpond · 15/12/2020 16:11

@kirinm

They'll reduce the households to two and suggest not travelling out of your immediate area.
It was letting people travel as far as they wanted that got us in a mess last time.
Belladonna12 · 15/12/2020 16:12

@FourTeaFallOut

It's amazing how the mental health wellbeing of the nation apparently hangs on being able to mix with three households at Christmas and yet apparently remains robust against the necessary lockdowns and restrictions that will follow on account of those five days. Confused
Exactly.
Angel2702 · 15/12/2020 16:13

If they change the rules now it will be awful from a mental health point of view. I’m desperately counting down the days to get some extra support with two autistic children who are spiraling into a mental health crisis.

Christmas at home just us will be far from a nice quiet family day, it will be the equivalent of being in a house with an Abusive partner, only I won’t be able to leave as it’s my own kids not my partner. We desperately need the support of family, I think it’s awful that parent of disabled kids of school age can’t form a support bubble after 9 months of no respite we are at breaking point.

likeamillpond · 15/12/2020 16:13

@MagicSummer

I'll just be glad when the whole Christmas season is over and we can go back to trying to overcome the virus once and for all - I am pretty sure that there will be a third lockdown when all the Christmas infection works its way through the population. What a shame people couldn't just have a quiet one this year.
I agree but prepare to get flamed.
corythatwas · 15/12/2020 16:13

If I get covid then so be it. My whole family feels the same.

Do the nurses who might have to treat you in hospital feel the same? Do their families feel the same? The hospital porters? Their families? Have you checked with all the people you might infect?

And who imagines that people's mental health will improve if family members die and their therapist ends up in ICU?

My 24yo dd hasn't been able to have her bad hip seen to for months not because of social isolation but because her osteopath has been ill with Covid. This is really bad for dd's mental health- she is in pain all the time and struggles to walk.

Despite her own MH problems, dd has also had to spend a large part of the autumn trying to support her housemate who has developed long-standing health problems from Covid and is now going to have to drop out of HE in her final year. This added strain, apart from being horrible to the poor girl, has led to dd's MH taking a turn for the worse.

You know the one thing that would have improved dd's mental health: those people not getting infected with Covid.

Unsure33 · 15/12/2020 16:13

So the message about people being asymptomatic is definitely not getting through either .

I know of a couple in their 60s

She is recovering from cancer

He had children teenagers from a previous marriage.

She had not been out
The only people visiting were the children
When they visited she kept out of the way . They were very meticulous with hand washing and cleaning .
The children had no symptoms .

Unfortunately the children bought in into the household and she got it . The husband did not .

She has been very poorly .

Just shows you .

Hardbackwriter · 15/12/2020 16:13

@FourTeaFallOut

It's amazing how the mental health wellbeing of the nation apparently hangs on being able to mix with three households at Christmas and yet apparently remains robust against the necessary lockdowns and restrictions that will follow on account of those five days. Confused
It's not either/or, though, is it? We're going to have lockdowns and restrictions in January whatever happens at Christmas, which is why people are so upset at the prospect of losing a few days of not-actually-particularly-close-to-normality-but-slightly-less-grim time; how long do you think people can live with this without any respite at all?
timeforanewstart · 15/12/2020 16:13

@Belladonna maybe people haven't budgeted for it as they planned to be elsewhere
Sometimes people live to the last penny can people not actually appreciate that

UnseenDoreen · 15/12/2020 16:14

@FourTeaFallOut

It's amazing how the mental health wellbeing of the nation apparently hangs on being able to mix with three households at Christmas and yet apparently remains robust against the necessary lockdowns and restrictions that will follow on account of those five days. Confused
Where have you been!? People want a fucking break.
Frenchdressing · 15/12/2020 16:14

‘They should stay in.’

FFS.

MassiveSalad · 15/12/2020 16:14

It's amazing how the mental health wellbeing of the nation apparently hangs on being able to mix with three households at Christmas and yet apparently remains robust against the necessary lockdowns and restrictions that will follow on account of those five days

It isn't "amazing" and you don't find it confusing either, despite your use of the confused emoji. It is actually really quite simple to realise that people haven't remained robust at all. People are suffering immensely for something that poses very little risk to the vast majority. People have looked forward to seeing their family at Christmas. They have hung onto the hope to keep them going. Not amazing or confusing at all, is it??

cantdothisnow1 · 15/12/2020 16:14

I'm really glad that my in laws have opted to have a quiet Christmas on their own this year, they not getting any younger and there is an 80th birthday in the mix but they are being sensible.

Unless your mental health is REALLY suffering, (in which case you may come under a mental health exclusion) or are on your own (in which case you can form a bubble), I really think that consideration should be given of whether it is really worth it.

It's a day! Other celebrations will come in better times. If you are going to go ahead and mingle (whether within the current rules or despite new rules that may be announced at some point) then don't go complaining if schools are shut or there are further hardships in the spring.

And really bear in mind the poor front line NHS staff who will be working on the Covid Wards this Christmas, how we behave will directly impact them in the coming months.

ancientgran · 15/12/2020 16:15

I guess mum gets to choose which child she has over Xmas in your world. With the remaining one on their own. I've got 4 kids so can I have 5 households meeting? If not I have to choose which ones to see. It's not faiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir, actually I might meet up with one of them, they are all adults so I suspect they will cope. We haven't made a decision yet.

Unsure33 · 15/12/2020 16:15

I can totally understand why people are upset .

I think we are all struggling in one way or another .

And it has not been decided yet anyway . But the government are under pressure from starmer and the medical establishment.

It’s Labour that actually want the lockdown .

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