Do you think the Government will cancel the Christmas bubble idea?

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I keep seeing things mentioning Government cancelling the Christmas bubble idea. Germany are not allowing Christmas mixing. Do you think Boris will consider it here?

The tiers are being reviewed this week and a few places are likely to be moved to Tier 3. What's the point in moving to Tier 3 for a few days then telling everyone to ignore it and mix with other households for 5 days for Christmas. It just doesn't make sense.

Even if he does, people won’t listen.

I take very little notice of Government edicts as to what I can do or not do. I have common sense, so I keep myself as safe as possible. I avoid going out, and I don't invite people to my house. When I do have to go out I sanitize my hands often. I'd love to see my family. I miss them, and I'm sure they miss me, but they stay away because they'd miss me more if I wasn't here at all!

@Rosehip10 Either its dangerous for someone who tests positive to be around the elderly or it isnt.

"why on earth should the government be responsible for this"

Because they cant have it both ways? Because those with no kids are making these types of sacrifices so others kids can stay at school

Ive never voted Tory Havent been abroad since 1986 My conscience is clear.

oh and they are in my support bubble anyway. Im allowed one because i care for a disabled person.

I seem to hear a lot from people (IRL) who absolutely don't want to meet even though they are allowed. I imagine my bubble can't be representative; I am not representative of most my bubble, either, so I can get any sense of what most people will actually do about meeting others.

Is Matt Hancock still planning to have his FIL over?

Is Gove still planning on his trip to Scotland?

Journos will be watching them like hawks.

@Frazzled2207

downing street has just said they have no plans to change this guidance but Welsh government has just hinted they are not ruling out cancelling it.

Good, hope there is pressure applied and it changes.

The virus isn’t going to stop spreading for five days and many will just continue to mix after just like the children’s play dates etc when schools opened.

I also think the drama queens who say that if xxx got CV19 they would die. I agree with PP. You CANNOT possibly know this. My DF who is late 80's and lots of complex needs too and in a care home caught it whilst in hospital

My mum mentioned an elderly gentleman in her village who is about 94 and has various conditions. He caught covid, went into hospital, wasn't very well though I don't think he ended up in intensive care, but he's home again now and she's seen him walking around the village. I think some elderly people are much tougher than they are given credit for. But of course we don't know which until it happens.

I can’t see it to be honest. There would be a lot of back lash I think and it would make them look incompetent. I’m looking forward to seeing my family and I’m going to at least try and enjoy myself after such a shitty year and I’ll be doing that even if they do change the rules at the last minute.

Not every area has high cases. Plus some of us will keep within the rules.

Why should we all be punished?
It might be ok if you live with family. However if you're on your own Christmas is really lonely and ppl need some company after this crap year.

I would be entirely happy for the Christmas mixing to happen IF everyone who has mixed then gets tested before returning to work / school.

I would be happier still if everyone who was intending to mix was tested beforehand, but i can see that time for that is running out.

However, I see no reason why the return to work / school shouldn't be staggered, in the same way that return to university is being staggered, to reduce transmission.

Looks like on test shortage again. My family moving into tier 3 Greater London. My nephew school closed lots teacher, pupils have it. Sister now got cough and can’t get test. Essential workers only.

No, they know people won't listen so I think this way they feel like they have more control are it's 'allowed'

He likes to be popular so Boris Johnson won't do anything to jeopardise that.

No because they're scared nobody will comply and they will look like the out of control, hapless, dangerous government they truly are.

I don't think they'll ban household mixing entirely but they may well change it so that support bubbles count as 2 houses (as they should) and tell the clinically vulnerable to not take part. They may also decide that for children seeing both parents over the period that those households are automatically bubbled.

[quote Coasterfan]@UnseenDoreenshe she spends most of the winter each year in hospital because of her asthma. She also has multiple other complex health issues. She is highly highly unlikely to survive it and it’s not a chance I m going to take. So it’s not a ridiculous thing to say at all.[/quote]
We are in the same boat. My DSis has multiple complex health issues including a damaged lung from contracted pneumonia 3 years ago. They told her then that if she went into a situation where they needed to resuscitate her then they would not resuscitate her so she too would also most certainly die if she contracted it. She hasn't left the house since March and is working from home. She is not old (46) and I am sick of people thinking that she can be collateral damage for the selfish among us