Do you think the Government will cancel the Christmas bubble idea?

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I keep seeing things mentioning Government cancelling the Christmas bubble idea. Germany are not allowing Christmas mixing. Do you think Boris will consider it here?

The tiers are being reviewed this week and a few places are likely to be moved to Tier 3. What's the point in moving to Tier 3 for a few days then telling everyone to ignore it and mix with other households for 5 days for Christmas. It just doesn't make sense.

No it would be a waste of time as they know too many people would break the rules to see people anyway.
Would also be unfair on the a North yet again. As our cases are dropping.

They should but they won’t as people who have made plans will go ahead with them anyway. And no, schools should not close early, my kids are not missing out on even more education for the sake of a bloody turkey dinner. it’s absolutely ridiculous. We aren’t mixing at Xmas as my mother in law will die if she gets covid. That does not change because our incompetent government say we can go to her house!

I know! It is really bad 👎 😔

A lot of the public are realizing that whatever they do and whatever they sacrifice it will never be enough to please others. This thread is proof of that. If Christmas was "cancelled" people would not accept a January lockdown and you would get very low compliance if they did both.
And NHS CEO Chris Hopson has got a fucking cheek with his tweets. Many NHS workers have been bullied and emotionally blackmailed into coming into work when ill pre Covid. So the NHS management etc should get their own fucking house in order rather than using the same emotional blackmail tactics on the public that they use on their front line staff. I suppose the higher ups are frightened they will actually have to do some work for their bloated pay.

They won't

I also think that a lot of people who have stuck to the rules and are still being sensible (ie not mixing) over Christmas are going to get more and more pissed off with the continued lockdowns; largely because of the same groups of people continually 'bending' the rules.

We aren’t mixing at Xmas as my mother in law will die if she gets covid.

That's a ridiculous thing to say. You cannot possibly know that.

@UnseenDoreenshe she spends most of the winter each year in hospital because of her asthma. She also has multiple other complex health issues. She is highly highly unlikely to survive it and it’s not a chance I m going to take. So it’s not a ridiculous thing to say at all.

I hope not.
I say this as someone who's been sticking to the guidelines/rules to the letter.

We will be carrying on with our christmas plans whatever is announced. We have stuck to the rules all year whilst others haven't. We don't have school age kids and don't work out of the home.

Same here @Mousehole10 No kids. Im at home or shopping. Or at the hairdressers once every six weeks. I havent been in a coffee shop since March. Havent been to the beauty salon for my wax since March. Dont go to pubs or restaurants. My contacts are very limited. Ive also followed the rules all year.

I wish they would but sadly it won’t happen, it can’t be policed, people will still mix even if told not too. We won’t be mixing, it seems crazy that for 5 days people can travel from a tier 3 area into a tier 1, what’s the pint of putting London into a tier 3 when the rules won’t apply for 5 days anyway?

@Lovemusic33 where im going is a half hour walk up the road. I think there is a lot of judging people by ones own pre Covid standards going on here.

Nope I think it is insanity how many people on here are screaming not to see their family and friends. Don’t do it then, just don’t try and police what everyone else does. My parents do my childcare, they are in my house right now. It is not more risky to see them on Xmas day. Most people I know have a childcare bubble and are therefore already mixing with grandparents. Obviously they are going to see them at Christmas given that. I really only know the odd person who has not seen their parents indoors.

@tappitytaptap YY My niece works as an escort on school transport and LIVES with my 84 year old parents.

Yet Government wont provide alternative accomodation for her would she (God forbid) to test positive.

We aren’t mixing at Xmas as my mother in law will die if she gets covid.

Statistically this is impossible to say. Even the most vulnerable individual you could imagine is more likely to survive it than not.

I'm not saying you should see her as it is obviously sensible not to, but it is beyond absurd to say she "will" die if she gets covid.

No they won't. As a teacher I am dreading January. Myself and my daughter will be staying at home .

Nope..not a chance.

@Martinisarebetterdirty

To everyone saying that they’d be annoyed at Eid being cancelled and Christmas protected please do remember that Easter is the holiest Christian festival and that everyone was in lockdown for that.

Yes indeed it was .

If they do cancel it, all the to-ing and fro-ing just demonstrates that the country is run by people who don't have to deal with domestic arrangements. To have not allowed people to mix in the first place is one thing and I wouldn't have been surprised. But to say that you can, allow people to make all the arrangements (and purchases) then cancel it last minute would be spectactularly shit.

@MercyBooth No-one is being given "alternative accommodation" by the Government due to their home situation re covid - why on earth should the government be responsible for this?

It wont be cancelled because a lot of people dont take any notice of what this government is saying. You only have to see some of the responses on MN as to what they are going to do let alone some people who are trying to politlise it.

Its as though they will get one over on the government if they dont take any notice.

Thing is - who is going to suffer if you mix with whomever you like at Xmas, bring Granny into the Xmas celebrations etc. It wont be Boris and co. It will be YOU. I am now thinking of cancelling my DM (late 80's) coming to stay with us). She will be very upset and state she will take her chances but I might well have to overrule her.

People say they will take their chances but they dont mean it. Are they really saying if they are admitted to A&E that they will ask to be put to the back of the queue? Will their relatives? Somehow I dont think so

I also think the drama queens who say that if xxx got CV19 they would die. I agree with PP. You CANNOT possibly know this. My DF who is late 80's and lots of complex needs too and in a care home caught it whilst in hospital.

He is back in the care home, no one knows yet why this virus affects some people more than others.

@ChasingRainbows19 It’s down to people to make sensible decisions for them and their families. Some are happy to take the risk. ( including vulnerable and elderly)
But it’s not though is it because it spread COVID to others including those who have stayed at home at Christmas.

Government was stupid to allow it and people too if they decided it was a good idea. The virus wasn't going on holiday, it being Christmas makes no difference.

I think it should be support bubbles only. though can see an argument for those who have been working from home, no school age kids to do combined households.

I'm not particularly looking forward to a no extended family Christmas but it is the only option, with both dp and I public facing key workers and a child in school.