Has Boris got the balls to cancel Xmas for London?

[Gobacktothe90s]

Obviously the answer is no, but the huge increase in cases in London should tell anyone it's not a good idea for Xmas mixing. How high will the rates go before he has to step in?

I think rather than cancel Xmas for the worst hit areas the only thing he would do is cancel Xmas mixing for everyone and do a complete u turn rather than single London out.
If however the North west still had high rates he would have no hesitation In stopping the north west mixing at Xmas but allowed other areas to mix.

@TicTacTwo 16th review date..apparently will come into place the 19th

Merkel has

They stopped visiting in some areas for Eid

Yes with no notice Mind you if they do this for Christmas i shall have fun bumping all the threads and tagging y"all who said they would never do this for Christmas.

They may have relaxed the Christmas restrictions but then they have spent the last few weeks guilt tripping , and emotionally blackmailing us into not doing it. Psychological abuse. Im in rural North Essex and cases are a lot lower.

@Ridcully82

Merkel has

Can families meet up inside? What’s the set up

@MarshaBradyo

People from no more than two households are allowed to gather in a home. This will be relaxed from 24 to 26 December - one household can invite a maximum of four close family members from other households.

So still a bit of mixing.. just not as much

Woops this was missed off

A maximum of five people from no more than two households are allowed to gather in a home....

Thanks LetsGo

I feel our announcement was quite early and feels more fixed than other announcements which have been subject to case numbers. I can’t see them changing it now even though they’ve gone up a fair bit.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55292614
Two households,four people,and four from multiple house holds for 25th and 26th

I feel they made the announcement too early too. As now they feel they can’t go back on it yet cases have risen far more than expected. Why did we all need a month’s notice anyway?

@MercyBooth

They stopped visiting in some areas for Eid

Yes with no notice Mind you if they do this for Christmas i shall have fun bumping all the threads and tagging y"all who said they would never do this for Christmas.

They may have relaxed the Christmas restrictions but then they have spent the last few weeks guilt tripping , and emotionally blackmailing us into not doing it. Psychological abuse. Im in rural North Essex and cases are a lot lower.

They’re trying to get people not to spread the virus when they know full well that complete idiots are calling their efforts ‘psychological abuse’ and others are going to do wtf they want.

I don’t envy anyone trying to communicate important information to the British public, we’re a bunch of chippy twats.

Im not an idiot. Im seeing one other household ONE. There are people who havent seen their families for NINE MONTHS.

And it IS psychological abuse to use emotional blackmail tactics after saying you are lifting restrictions rather than have the guts to say "Sorry folks its off this year"

Re NHS ive never voted Tory.

Last time i was abroad was 1986 So if we are going to start blaming the public and calling them complete idiots why arent we starting here??!!! The programme about the Spanish flu, which was on a few weeks back had been updated to include the Covid comparison Spanish flu........exacerbated by sea travel
Covid.........exacerbated by AIR TRAVEL.

I will NOT be made to feel bad by simply wanting to WALK a half hour up the road to see my mum at Christmas. Who incidentally is Italian yet cant afford to jet back and forth to see the relatives that we have over there. Unlike a lot who went abroad over the summer. 1977 and 1983 is the only two times ive ever even SEEN my Italian relatives because they are the two times ive been when i was four and ten. (86 was a school trip to Switzerland) So all my mum has are her two adult children. And her 25 year old grandchild who LIVES with her and works in a SCHOOL environment. My dad is currently trying to do something which will be to my mums detriment which i dont want to go into on here. There is more going on than just Covid.

He needs to cancel Christmas for the whole country imo. He’s created a huge problem for people who are at risk and don’t want to meet up with anyone, but their family is whinging because it’s technically allowed and they’re being told they’re mean/awkward/selfish for saying no. My MIL has blocked me and isn’t speaking to me because I said we wouldn’t be taking the risk of joining them for Christmas dinner.

Im sure my MP will be arranging alternative accomodation for my niece if she was/ had been near to someone who was positive so she can self isolate away from my parents. Put their money where their mouths are.

What does ‘cancel Christmas’ even mean?

Cancel the Christmas bubbles.
Even if they do cancel Christmas, loads of people will just do what they want anyway.

It's so rude to call people idiots because they dislike or question the restrictions. Disliking and questioning does not equate to wanton disregard. It is healthy to question things, especially when it is a curtailment of civil liberties. To be frank, I'm worried about the number of people who seem content to do whatever they're told (by a government which doesn't even agree within itself) without any degree of questioning or scepticism whatever.

@DateLoaf

11 Jan should be the standard school return date

100% support this, makes perfect sense given there will be non adherence over the holidays, let’s at least have schools not physically open to kids until the proper quarantine period has passed.

No, please no. I've cancelled the Xmas mixing I mentioned previously (fortunately BIL also nervous so no row) and so will be just at home with DH and kids, like many others. Come 4th jan we'll be desperate for a school. And the kids have missed so much already this year

@OverTheRainbow88

No he shouldn’t, he should cancel household mixing for all for Christmas.

America is fucked because of thanksgiving, why don’t we ever learn from others?

I agree. January and February will be an utter shitshow if Christmas goes ahead as currently permitted.

I'm not an idiot. And if most certainly is psychological abuse. People have been bullied into putting the health of random strangers before that of their own family - be that physical health or mental health. The elderly and vulnerable have been used to emotionally blackmail people into 'doing the right thing', as have the NHS that this very government and those before have cut funding to, declined pay rises, and more.

How about we just 'do the right thing' by our own families now. I no longer accept responsibility for the health of an entire country.

@nosswith Speaking of cancelling Mr Johnson, could we also cancel that mass murderer Tony Blair (or is it Bliar?), by sticking him in prison where he belongs, for his war crimes? Incidentally, Mr Blair is the reason I struggle to believe anything any government says about anything - he wrote "politicians always lie, especially the Prime Minister" indelibly on my mind.

It’s astonishingly rude to accuse people who are dealing with a shitty pandemic, that isn’t a static thing, that’s changing all the time - to accuse them of psychological abuse, emotional blackmail. Get a grip. This is a terrible situation for the government, economic activity is all they’ve got to trumpet, do you not think if they could open everything up and get you all spending, they would? They’d love any shred of good pr right now, if they could get us all hugging our grandparents, they’d do it in a flash.

Johnson called this Christmas thing too early, so anyone with any nous and knowledge, who doesn’t need to try to be seen as a fucking benevolent Santa to distract from being the worst politician we’ve ever known, has been trying to persuade us not to go overboard because people will die and that’s what they are tasked with caring about.

It is not about you (plural you), it is shit for everyone, we are all damaged by this, and at the end of our ropes. There’s no good solution. It’s up and down and likely to be for a while but assuming someone is trying to abuse you is nuts.

Give me Blair over the current twat any day.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Give me Blair over the current twat any day.

yes yes and more yes. I would rather 30 years of solid blair with no elections than this shower of shit for a govt

Me too😭

We wouldn’t be having Brexshit either. Sorry if he pissed you off with his lies. But imagine if he was in charge now?😭