Why are people so inconsiderate and stupid

[youcanthandlethetruth]

I’m sorry, but just because we have masks doesn’t negate the need to keep socially distanced. 2 metres is the rule.

Today, I had a woman in M&S stand right next to me in the queue for 10 minutes. About 2 feet away. I got so annoyed I had to say to her would she mind moving over (was said politely) which was met with a blank look and no apology. She only stood next to me to bunk the queue for the food hall because she clearly couldn’t be bothered queuing like everyone else.

Children in Tesco running around. Standing right next to me and parents making no effort to call them back. Same for adults, absolutely no idea of what’s going on around them (too focused on what’s on the shelves) I have done my best with home deliveries but there’s is no slots for my area in the next week.

Walking in the park with the dog, I sit on a bench with my earphones in for 5 minutes. A woman walks over and decides to pet the dog then calls her daughter over to also pet the dog. I take my earphones out and said to her that I have vulnerable family members at home, would you mind not touching the dog with your hands in case you are transmitting anything onto his fur. She replied “Im going to sanitise my hands after touching him,” NO - that is not the point! How does that protect me or my family. You potential Covid carrier you

Why are people so inconsiderate. Just keep your distance away from everyone else as much as you can. Do not get close to people in aisles where it can be avoided and pay attention to how close you’re getting to someone else.

Just because you’re wearing a mask doesn’t mean you can’t still transmit the virus. Doesn’t mean you can get as close as you want to me. I have been fairly placid up until now but I am fed up. From now on the gloves are off.

as per dog: why on earth would you pet a strangers dog? ever!

People like dogs. People stroke my dog all the time. I don't care.
If you don't want people to stroke your dog, fine. But you don't need to tell people about your vulnerable family or call them "covid carriers".

@housemdwaswrong

Old people epple. This is a huge bugbear for me personally; can people try and remember whilst slagging off older people that this can be really confusing for them? My mum has dementia, and taking her shopping right now is difficult. She tries to wear a mask, it usually ends up under her nose, and reasoning doesn't work, so i take the approach that it's better than nothing, at least she's trying.

Whilst you assume covid is on everyone's mind, it's not on hers. And following arrows is pointless if you don't understand why.

I have become very vocal in response to eye rollers and tutters that have no idea of circumstances. So moan away, but keep in mind it may not be as straightforward for them as it is for you.

Agree with all of this.

My mum is blind (has been for 80 years) and has dementia. My dad is also blind and very doddery on his feet. Neither of them were at the stage pre covid of not being able to shop. On top of that they are resistant to help. I can only imagine how hard this is for them and how badly they are coping with the changes in supermarkets. I'm sorry, but people will have to do all they can to socially distance from them as much as possible. This whole thing has been terrible for them.

@Jrobhatch29

*as per dog: why on earth would you pet a strangers dog? ever!*

People like dogs. People stroke my dog all the time. I don't care.
If you don't want people to stroke your dog, fine. But you don't need to tell people about your vulnerable family or call them "covid carriers".

I've been a dog owner too and people should always ask before they approach and touch a dog. It's simple good manners and a safety issue. My mum used to despair of the number of people who would try to make a fuss of he guide dog when it was working. I taught my children to always ask before they stroke a dog and I hope most people do the same.

@youcanthandlethetruth

I have decided to start coughing uncontrollably in these situations. They can’t be considerate enough to keep their distance yet I’m willing to bet they move when I start coughing.

Why should I have to go out at different times, why is the owness on me? The rules are simply keep to them

Why would you do that? What if you have covid and are asymptomatic? Coughing could spread the virus.

You sound a bit OTT about your paranoia, to be honest.

@knittingaddict Visual impairment and dementia is a real double-whammy in the current circumstances. Disability has been covered in the news, but those with dementia have been largely forgotten. It's been awful trying to help her remember the restrictions, where they apply, what they are for, that they are different in and out as well as the shop layout changes and the fact that masks stop her recognising anyone. It's just not possible. I can't imagine that with another disability on top bless them. I hope your parents are doing 'okay'.

I agree. People's energy would be better spent avoiding her and thinking instead of being deliberately rude and making snide comments.

Thank you housemdwaswrong for you kind post.

They are doing ok, although I think they are nearly at the point of putting each other under the patio.

My dad was 89 a couple of days ago and I just want them to get through this and have a bit more quality of life for however long they've got. I'm also hoping that the vaccine means some of their clubs can start up again and they are no longer trapped in a tiny bungalow.

Hope I haven't offended anyone with the use of "blind". It's what they call themselves and it's kind of stuck.

@knittingaddict I can imagine.

No offence...I would say blind, but I'm never sure what causes offence or not, so thought VI was safer...it's a minefield lol. I think with the deaf/Deaf communities I didn't know if there was a similar blind thing, so didn't risk it :)

I hope so for them too. My parents house is big. I live with them because dad has minimal mobility so difficult with mum, but at least we can spread out a bit when irritation sets in (no patio here ;) ). Difficult with more limited space I bet.

Here's to a better 2021 for both sets of parents, and one people whose lives have been unimaginably impacted:)

There was a woman walking around Liberty’s on Saturday with her arms outstretched to try to keep people 2m away. Shoving people out of the way as she went. She pushed me head first into another couple as she barged past me (I was stationary and looking at something). Completely futile as well, it was rammed in there.

If you don’t want people too close to you, why on earth would you go shopping on Regent Street on the first Saturday afternoon after lockdown, in the run up to Christmas? Surely you realise it will be busy? But no, you are totally reasonable to go to Regent Street yourself, it is all those other people being selfish and ruining it for you. Some people have just taken leave of their senses.

@Changechangychange

There was a woman walking around Liberty’s on Saturday with her arms outstretched to try to keep people 2m away. Shoving people out of the way as she went. She pushed me head first into another couple as she barged past me (I was stationary and looking at something). Completely futile as well, it was rammed in there.

If you don’t want people too close to you, why on earth would you go shopping on Regent Street on the first Saturday afternoon after lockdown, in the run up to Christmas? Surely you realise it will be busy? But no, you are totally reasonable to go to Regent Street yourself, it is all those other people being selfish and ruining it for you. Some people have just taken leave of their senses.

I saw a man wafting people off the pavement with a greetings card as he passed, but I think Liberty lady beats him!

If you don’t want people too close to you, why on earth would you go shopping on Regent Street on the first Saturday afternoon after lockdown, in the run up to Christmas? Surely you realise it will be busy? But no, you are totally reasonable to go to Regent Street yourself, it is all those other people being selfish and ruining it for you.

It's a bit like people going to popular tourist destinations and moaning about them being 'mobbed', as though they weren't part of the mobbing.

I got a takeaway coffee today at an outdoor garden centre cafe and the lady who served me coughed into her hand before handing me my coffee. Thankfully it was her other hand but still..... my kids are well trained in coughing into their elbows, adults need lessons too.

You do sound slightly on the paranoid side of cautious. It would be pretty difficult to contract covid from your dogs fur because an infected person has stroked it.

I like people to keep their distance, but sometimes they forget - the best way to ensure social distancing is to avoid busy places or peak times.

@IcedPurple

If you don’t want people too close to you, why on earth would you go shopping on Regent Street on the first Saturday afternoon after lockdown, in the run up to Christmas? Surely you realise it will be busy? But no, you are totally reasonable to go to Regent Street yourself, it is all those other people being selfish and ruining it for you.

It's a bit like people going to popular tourist destinations and moaning about them being 'mobbed', as though they weren't part of the mobbing.

Haha yes or whining about traffic when they are the traffic

@Changechangychange

There was a woman walking around Liberty’s on Saturday with her arms outstretched to try to keep people 2m away. Shoving people out of the way as she went. She pushed me head first into another couple as she barged past me (I was stationary and looking at something). Completely futile as well, it was rammed in there.

If you don’t want people too close to you, why on earth would you go shopping on Regent Street on the first Saturday afternoon after lockdown, in the run up to Christmas? Surely you realise it will be busy? But no, you are totally reasonable to go to Regent Street yourself, it is all those other people being selfish and ruining it for you. Some people have just taken leave of their senses.

I had a similar experience in the first lockdown when garden centres opened up again.

It was a plant nursery, so almost completely outside and this woman was walking around with her arms outstretched, looking incredibly anxious. It was both comical and incredibly sad. I posted about it at the time.

@OverTheRainbow88

I would suggest avoiding supermarkets on weekends.

I go the supermarket at about 7am on a Monday morning for weekly shop before I start wfh. There's hardly anyone there. In and out in 15 minutes.

Unless I need to go into the chemist I don't go indoors anywhere else.

@Changechangychange

There was a woman walking around Liberty’s on Saturday with her arms outstretched to try to keep people 2m away. Shoving people out of the way as she went. She pushed me head first into another couple as she barged past me (I was stationary and looking at something). Completely futile as well, it was rammed in there.

If you don’t want people too close to you, why on earth would you go shopping on Regent Street on the first Saturday afternoon after lockdown, in the run up to Christmas? Surely you realise it will be busy? But no, you are totally reasonable to go to Regent Street yourself, it is all those other people being selfish and ruining it for you. Some people have just taken leave of their senses.

Maybe she was trying to be Kate Winslet on Titanic.

Like a PP I rarely see any of these behaviours . I was in John Lewis this morning and then Waitrose, the only person I saw not wearing a mask was a member of staff with an exemption lanyard . People queued quietly and on the spots for the checkout and everyone was very nicely nicely about looking at presents etc standing back for people waiting their turn . Then went into small local town to pick up an order, same again .

We are in an area with very low cases roughly 50:100,000 and in some parts of the county even lower , it does beg the question have we got lower cases because people in this area have been keeping to the rules?

Refractory
So 60,000 plus deaths and all the people who have survived being in a coma for months only to have serious long term health issues is acceptable then?

Should it really just be a case of survival of the fittest just so that people are not inconvenienced? confused

I can see that you've resorted to the usual rhetoric (it's fine for people to die, then, is it) to make people feel guilty about desiring normalcy, it's really quite normal for 60,000 elderly and infirm people to die in the UK every year (quite a lot more, actually); or even not so elderly but infirm people to die, or fall into a coma. That's just life for you, people catch viruses and die.

So yes it's 'acceptable'.
The figures are only that low because we made laws and forced stupid people to follow them. If you didn't understand that the last 100 times it was explained you never will now so just stop trying and just obey the laws.
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But there is no way of proving one way or the other if the rules did or did not make any significant difference. You could equally argue that if Vit D tablets had been widely distributed then the deaths would be halved or if there were no restrictions then deaths would be in the millions etc etc. The fact is there is no way of knowing what would or would not have happened if different rules were followed, especially as there is no consensus even in the scientific community on what the best measures are.

@prunetang

Because otherwise you will drive yourself mad stressing about what others are, or are not doing
You can only control what you do and how you behave

That's exactly how I see it.
I was stood in the supermarket queue the other day (mask on) and someone behind me was clearly oblivious to the markers on the floor as to where should stand and was literally right behind me.
Admit it felt a bit weird, not used to it now lol but let it slide.
I can't control other people's behaviour, only my own so I'll just have to carry on being sensible and being me as much as I can and not stress over others reactions.