Why are people so inconsiderate and stupid

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I’m sorry, but just because we have masks doesn’t negate the need to keep socially distanced. 2 metres is the rule.

Today, I had a woman in M&S stand right next to me in the queue for 10 minutes. About 2 feet away. I got so annoyed I had to say to her would she mind moving over (was said politely) which was met with a blank look and no apology. She only stood next to me to bunk the queue for the food hall because she clearly couldn’t be bothered queuing like everyone else.

Children in Tesco running around. Standing right next to me and parents making no effort to call them back. Same for adults, absolutely no idea of what’s going on around them (too focused on what’s on the shelves) I have done my best with home deliveries but there’s is no slots for my area in the next week.

Walking in the park with the dog, I sit on a bench with my earphones in for 5 minutes. A woman walks over and decides to pet the dog then calls her daughter over to also pet the dog. I take my earphones out and said to her that I have vulnerable family members at home, would you mind not touching the dog with your hands in case you are transmitting anything onto his fur. She replied “Im going to sanitise my hands after touching him,” NO - that is not the point! How does that protect me or my family. You potential Covid carrier you

Why are people so inconsiderate. Just keep your distance away from everyone else as much as you can. Do not get close to people in aisles where it can be avoided and pay attention to how close you’re getting to someone else.

Just because you’re wearing a mask doesn’t mean you can’t still transmit the virus. Doesn’t mean you can get as close as you want to me. I have been fairly placid up until now but I am fed up. From now on the gloves are off.

@Userzzz

I know this may shock you, but there are a lot of people out there that do not want to change their way of life for a virus with over a 99% recovery rate. I think you are inconsiderate and stupid for thinking that everyone else needs to conform to this new way of life so you feel “ safe” !

So 60,000 plus deaths and all the people who have survived being in a coma for months only to have serious long term health issues is acceptable then?

Should it really just be a case of survival of the fittest just so that people are not inconvenienced?

It’s a lot more than an inconvenience, it’s a complete change of life, an agreement that we need to fear a virus with an over 99% survival rate, all the while ruining millions of lives and livelihoods. It’s a lot more than an inconvenience.

Should it really just be a case of survival of the fittest just so that people are not inconvenienced?

This is more than an inconvenience.

I have decided to start coughing uncontrollably in these situations

Well that makes you are stupid and inconsiderate and those you described, as others there would be feeling the same as you are then you’ll cough at then... delightful.

I am a very anxious, must follow the rules, or be seen to be following the rules type of person. Covid itself doesn't really worry me, but breaking rules makes me really nervous.

What I have found is that a lot of people don't feel like that (good for them, it is exhausting) and are far less worried about following the rules or being seen to follow them. I think they are more relaxed internally.

Can I blame them for who they are? No, otherwise they could blame me for being me (too uptight). We really need to stop viewing each other as the problem and learn to work better together at solving the problem.

It doesn't transmit by Dog touching, does it?

So yes, people aren't distancing enough. But if you'd said that to me in the park, (not that I would touch your dog without asking, normally. And probably wouldn't in covid at all) id think you were unhinged with clear ott anxiety about catching covid.

I'm broadly in agreement with the op, but the overly emotive and martyred tone of that quote above is utterly cringey. I'm struggling with COVID life like everyone else is, but I don't think the difference between following the rules and not constitutes "Herculean efforts"!

Christ it’s more than an inconvenience - it’s ruining people’s livelihoods and mental health for a 99% survival rate - perhaps have some understanding of that then you might have empathy with the other side as we are supposed to have empathy with you as you froth about being close to people when you apparently have vulnerable people at home yet choose to go out at busy times (top tip: supermarkets are open late - go during the week in the evening when kids etc will be in bed). I actually think now if you don’t like it then yes you should change your behaviour and stop worrying about what others are doing. We all need to grow up now and take responsibility for the risk we are prepared to bear and the potential consequences to those we love if we do take that ‘risk’ and to behave accordingly.

It's really not easy to follow the 2m rule in shops atm, what with Christmas coming up.

You potential Covid carrier you

This is surely skewed logic, you are potentially as much as a covid carrier as them especially if going to numerous shops.

@TheSultanofPingu

It's really not easy to follow the 2m rule in shops atm, what with Christmas coming up.

Especially in England where a lot were closed for a month, it was entirely predictable that this weekend would be busy.

In my area you can't really socially distance. Too many people out and about and in shops. I get in, get what I want and get out.

Why should I have to go out at different times, why is the owness on me? The rules are simply keep to them

If people aren't socially distancing in some situations and you are winding yourself up about it, then it makes sense to try and mitigate that. Go shopping really early or late. Far less people around.

Maybe book home deliveries sooner, I have had no problem getting them, don't shop at weekends and as people are wearing masks in shops that is when it can drop to 1 metre with mitigation, ie. a mask

I think everyone needs to be a bit more understanding. Most of us are trying our best and most of us will have lapses in keeping 2M distance. I'm sure you have too, op.

Well said @Emeeno1!

How hard is it to try and stick to 2m , people shouldn't be on top of others anyway a bit a personal space is nice.
Funny i went to clothes shops , they were all limiting how many went in etc making sure people used handgel , yet at supermarkets its a free for all.
Yet the clothes shops were shut down 2 nd lockdown.
Supermarkets seemed to have abandoned there one way system , limiting numbers ? Why the virus is still here and in greater numbers in many places?
The little shops have better procedures in place
Out walking at out local park it was packed and full of groups of more than 6 walking together taking up a whole path , no attempt by some to move over just a little
If numbers go back up again its all these little things that help contribute

I have decided to start coughing uncontrollably in these situations

And I am not someone scared by it all but i think in a supermarket you can wait behind someone rather than reach across them
To get something , its bad manners at best of times
I wouldn't be concerned if someone stroked my dog for example the chance of them carrying it is small and i don't wipe down my shopping that I an sure numerous people have touched .
But I do think people can stand 2 m behind when lining up and can give a little gap to person in front who is getting their shopping of the shelf .

Unfortunately masks have given people a false sense of security. Pre mask I found that people were generally being pretty good about social distancing but now they get far too close

So 60,000 plus deaths and all the people who have survived being in a coma for months only to have serious long term health issues is acceptable then?

Should it really just be a case of survival of the fittest just so that people are not inconvenienced? confused

I can see that you've resorted to the usual rhetoric (it's fine for people to die, then, is it) to make people feel guilty about desiring normalcy, it's really quite normal for 60,000 elderly and infirm people to die in the UK every year (quite a lot more, actually); or even not so elderly but infirm people to die, or fall into a coma. That's just life for you, people catch viruses and die.

So yes it's 'acceptable'.

OP that sounds like real fear that you're feeling. I'm sorry it's so difficult for you.

For every person or there who sees someone else as a potential covid carrier, there's another person who sees everyone as a chance for connection and warmth.
We aren't all the same. As someone else said, control the things you can to try to minimise your own risks and try to let the other stuff go, otherwise the anger and intolerance of other people is going to suck the joy out of life.

@KatherineJaneway

In my area you can't really socially distance. Too many people out and about and in shops. I get in, get what I want and get out.

Why should I have to go out at different times, why is the owness on me? The rules are simply keep to them

If people aren't socially distancing in some situations and you are winding yourself up about it, then it makes sense to try and mitigate that. Go shopping really early or late. Far less people around.

You can't control other's behaviour, only your own.

I can't wear a mask (but do wear a visor to deflect arsehiles) and I go to the supermarkets at quiet times in the evening so keeping 2m is a non-issue when I have the aisle to myself. I'm rarely going to other shops, but they are also pretty quiet when I go.

I'm not a fan of crowds and queuing anyway so it's a win-win.

I can't moan about being in a crowd because I'd part of the problem.

Yes, it's annoying when people have no concept of personal distance let alone 2m rules. I had someone pass within 6 inches of me to use a bin the other day. An "excuse me" would have sufficed. Or even a couple of feet of detour. It was outside and I doubt very much that a couple of seconds of proximity made any health difference, it was just as rude as it would have been 12m ago.

It's not healthy to go around viewing everyone as potentially contaminated and infectious. Roll-out of the vaccine will see normality return to normal movements and occupancy. The virus will still exist, but with mitigated impacts on the health service. All the other infections that have always been around will still be around, and we will have to live back with something very normal, and a lot of people are going to really struggle with that where they have an over-zealous attitude for a year about virus control.

@Userzzz

It’s a lot more than an inconvenience, it’s a complete change of life, an agreement that we need to fear a virus with an over 99% survival rate, all the while ruining millions of lives and livelihoods. It’s a lot more than an inconvenience.

Just to challenge that “99% survival rate” claim - that is disputed

fullfact.org/online/survival-rate-figures/

*Just to challenge that “99% survival rate” claim - that is disputed

fullfact.org/online/survival-rate-figures/*

That was written in May.

Haha yes OP I did the coughing thing too! You're right you shouldn't have to change your walking habits just because of inconsiderateness. If it still stays bad I'd recommend getting one of those visor mask things and that might be a good sign to others to keep their distance from you.