We're having 2-3 teachers a day catching CV19 DFE You're not keeping us safe

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Look at the image from www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3223
I've circled where we fall in classrooms. It's time for face coverings in classrooms. I don't want to loose any colleagues or my own life.

God I wish teachers would stop moaning!!!
They think they are the only ones at risk. At my hospital lots of the staff have been off with CV, they just get on with on it then straight back into the frontline. How many teachers have died compared to health care staff. We can’t socially distance from patients but you lot can distance from each other and pupils!

@embolass please go away. Do you get PPE ? Are you getting the vaccine ? Do you spend your day with 2,000+ others on crowded stairs ? My DD works on COVID wards and says they are close to patients but have masks, aprons and gloves. I'll take that for now. I have lost one colleague, have 3 in ICU and as of tonight another 9 in hospital. How many do you want to die before we get safe conditions ? Why don't you count the school staff in your hospital ?

@embolass and please explain how we can SD from pupils ? I'm lucky if I'm 1m away when teaching. In rooms with no windows. Its so much fun.

We can’t socially distance from patients but you lot can distance from each other and pupils!

Thanks for the solidarity.

I must have imagined the threads started by NHS workers appalled at their working conditions regarding Covid and getting support on them from the teacher posters....

I have quoted this line because it shows just how little you know about schools. I know very little about what happens in hospitals but then I wouldn’t write shite like that.

@embolass, Can you please find one teacher, just ONE, who has said they think they're the only ones at risk?
And when you've done that, tell us how we are meant to keep our distance from 30 loud students in a small room, and then travel along corridors with hundreds of them milling about.
But of course, you won't do that. You have dropped your goady remark and will now disappear and feel pleased with your handiwork.

Well done you.

Yes it’s lots of fun in a face mask for 12 hours plus, up and so close to patients you wouldn’t believe, who are CV positive. Are you wearing masks? If not why not?
Why on earth are you on the stairs all day with 2000 pupils?

We can’t socially distance from patients but you lot can distance from each other and pupils!

I am really sympathetic to health care staff, massively so, be them be in hospitals, clinics, care homes.

It's not a race to the bottom so I would support all of these people to have as much protection as they can.

However it is wrong to say that we can social distance: I work with up to 270 young children each week and we can't socially distance from them, and we aren't really supposed to wear masks either. We can open windows and use a time bac.

When I was ill in hospital with Covid I only ever saw a doctor or nurse if they and I wore a mask. Obviously much treatment can't be done from a distance but I did what I could to keep those treating me as safe as I could, even before I knew I had Covid. Once I'd had my positive result I was in a separate room with double doors and an open window, and no one came in without masks, visor, gloves and aprons. It still didn't feel enough.

I know how hard these nhs staff have had it this hear knowing a medic who has died, most likely as an indirect result of Covid.

@embolass just showed your comment to DD. She is disgusted that a medical professional could post that - everyone she knows wants teachers to be safer so we cut down on their workload. Her ward sister has offered me some proper PPE as she is horrified I don't have any. Most medics are lovely

Plus remember you have 12 weeks holidays to escape from it all

Are you wearing masks? If not why not?

Have you read the official advice and guidelines for schools from our government and DfE. They stress that masks are not appropriate to wear in Classrooms.

Having been so poorly I am wearing one against the rules, fortunately with my head teacher's approval.

@embolass

Yes it’s lots of fun in a face mask for 12 hours plus, up and so close to patients you wouldn’t believe, who are CV positive. Are you wearing masks? If not why not? Why on earth are you on the stairs all day with 2000 pupils?

I’m not a teacher or even work in a school, but even I know that teachers are not wearing masks in crowded classrooms as they aren’t allowed to 🤦‍♀️

@mumsneedwine 9 colleagues in hospital - that’s awful. From the same school ??

@embolass

Plus remember you have 12 weeks holidays to escape from it all

Ha ha!! Okay, you're one of those.

@embolass hospitals have dramatically changed their practices to minimise risk, significantly reducing the work they do and the amount of people allowed in hospitals. If the expectation was that you carried in with every service at pre-covid
capacity and normal visiting arrangements without any additional PPE it would be ridiculous. If hospitals were closing wards regularly because so many staff were out and there was no additional money for bringing in bank staff you'd be up in arms and quite rightly.
Teachers are 'moaning' because we have not been given support to make any meaningful mitigations since September. We're teaching kids in rows with the windows open, we're the one of 2 countries in Europe teaching full schools on site full time, we already had the biggest class sizes in Europe and the youngest average teacher age (which admittedly is useful in the pandemic, but reflects poor recruitment and retention in normal times).

I'd love to see some support from other public sector workers rather than it becoming a competition for the worst working conditions.

@embolass must be here to cause distress ...

@embolass you are so amusing. I assume you want more patients - you obviously work in ICU if wearing full PPE as I know no one else does. I'd assume you'd want less patients do you have to wear the PPE for less time ? But you seem to want us to 'stop moaning' and continue to get ill. Weird.

@Pomegranatespompom yes. From the same school. It's hideous. 2 are PE teachers - in 20s and so fit. Hoping they can come home soon. 1 has been in ICU for a week but I hear is making some progress today. I feel numb at the moment.
But hey, we get all that holiday so that's some compensation 😳

@noblegiraffe 😂

Why do you need stolen PPE from the hospital?
You can buy face masks and gloves.
I am 25 years plus in critical care, to be deemed “not lovely” by a previous poster is laughable! We are all tired and fed up, I’m working Christmas Day and assure you I will be lovely to my patient that and every other day on duty.

Senior leaders have worked flat out since the beginning of the pandemic, we kept schools open to support other essential workers throughout the first wave and headteachers have been told they're expected to be on call for track and trace until Christmas eve.
In normal times 12 weeks off is part of our terms and conditions, no one has complained about additional work throughout the pandemic.

I’m in Scotland, teachers here and senior pupils have to wear masks now. Wear a mask!!!! If your head doesn’t like it they can send you home(doubt they will do that) keep self safe.

The risk is of teachers spreading covid to students. Unless students are being encouraged to speak, I can't see they are a particular risk to a teacher.

Dear Lord. I teach y1 in an outstanding school, if that's relevant. My class chatter, ask questions, turn to each other to pull faces, get right into each other's faces messing around. When we line up they turn around and chat to their friends. Some of them lick their bottles. Some of them suck their thumbs when they are tired.

We try to encourage distancing and handwashing-at least 8 times a day- but these 28 little people are aquashed into a small room, for 6 hours a day, eating, learning, talking, releasing droplets into the air constantly and directing them at ME, the most vulnerable person in the room.

bluewavescrashing wear a mask?

@embolass and we all appreciate everything you are doing. We appreciate your working conditions are not great. We want you to be safe and for this to end. Im just sad you don't want this for us too. It would cut your workload. And the PPE is not stolen - it's donated by the NHS (which I pay for).