We're having 2-3 teachers a day catching CV19 DFE You're not keeping us safe

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Look at the image from www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3223
I've circled where we fall in classrooms. It's time for face coverings in classrooms. I don't want to loose any colleagues or my own life.

It’s devastating for that school community and family, mums. Every statistic represents a real person with their own lives and impact.

The awful thing about your story is if that teacher had an ‘underlying condition’ (say diabetes), then it would be shrugged off even more easily as if they had been practically on death’s doorstep anyway.

"Unless children are being encouraged to speak?" Hahahahahahahaha. Thus spoke a person who has clearly never set foot in a school.

I am quite old and discussion in lessons was a thing even when I was at school. Do you think they just sit and copy off a chalkboard all day?

"don't trust the tests anyway, but two to three cases per day nationally doesn't sound particularly high. How does this compare to people working from home?"

It's not 2-3 per day nationally, it's 2-3 cases per day each school where I live. In fact that's a good day last week in my kids high school.

I have 4 school aged children and I myself work in a school. I am concerned for myself but as a mum I have got to the point where I am very concerned for my children. I cannot understand why so many "mum's" don't listen to us teaching staff - in the know- regarding the safety of their children.

@noblegiraffe that is so true. So many parents assumed she must have had something wrong. She ran the London marathon last year. Was fit and very very lovely. I am so fed up of the 'well people die normally so just suck it up'. I didn't go into teaching thinking it would ever impact my health.

"I didn't go into teaching thinking it would ever impact my health."

Ha, well, except for the physical and mental exhaustion!

@CallmeAngelina 😂 well there is that.

Lololol to kids not talking - have you ever met a child!

They sneeze/cough/blow rasperries/spit/sing.
Nativities are back on.
People are trusting others not to go in /send in ill or awaiting tests kids.

I would support a teacher strike until things are made safer for them and students. My children both wear masks during the school day. They have three each per day and change over at set times. They get washed every night and it was relatively easy to get them into a routine.

Teachers and pupils should be having the same twice weekly tests that the NHS staff have. They should also be a higher priority for the vaccine.

I don't want closed schools, my boys love being there, I want safe schools.

According to the DfE there are 506,400 teachers working full time in the UK. If 3 a day are catching Covid that's 1 per 168,800 full time teachers.

At a rate of 15,000 (actually 15539 yesterday) per day, 1 in 4467 of the general population are catching Covid, or 1 in 34,930 of the adult UK population.

@amicissimma

According to the DfE there are 506,400 teachers working full time in the UK. If 3 a day are catching Covid that's 1 per 168,800 full time teachers.

At a rate of 15,000 (actually 15539 yesterday) per day, 1 in 4467 of the general population are catching Covid, or 1 in 34,930 of the adult UK population.

Er, that's three per school per day the OP is talking about....

According to the DfE there are 506,400 teachers working full time in the UK. If 3 a day are catching Covid that's 1 per 168,800 full time teachers.

At a rate of 15,000 (actually 15539 yesterday) per day, 1 in 4467 of the general population are catching Covid, or 1 in 34,930 of the adult UK population.

Except it’s not three teachers per day that’s only one school.

@starrynight19 😂 we had 12 on Friday.

How can someone have thought that was the national figure?

Do I need to post more threads?! Maybe my thread titles were too vague?

I just did a search for threads I've started since September in the CV topic. Only 16 of them. Clearly not enough.

Last week in my county alone there were 272 staff self isolating. This is a low tier 2 area.

What we really need to know is how many school staff have tested positive and how many were likely to have caught it in school. I suspect that’s not available but test and trace must have some idea

School have been really supportive BUT this week have suddenly been at pains to point out that 15 of the 16 of us have school age children. So of course we can't have got it from school

That's outrageous and over the last 4 weeks there were no out of school activities so most likely any children will have caught it in school - what are they trying to say, it was caught in school, just not THEIR school? Ridiculous.

We had our first case in DS' school on Thursday, now the school has closed until January due to the spread of subsequent positive cases. I definitely believe others would not have tested if the first case was not picked up. DH is ECV, so I'm not upset about the closures at all, but most of the teachers are middle aged, so I do worry about their health.

@BungleandGeorge

What we really need to know is how many school staff have tested positive and how many were likely to have caught it in school. I suspect that’s not available but test and trace must have some idea

T&T is seriously awful, my positive test was 5 weeks ago and I am still awaiting their call I was asked my occupation when I booked the test but I can't remember how specific it was. I was asked again at the test centre and I answered 'health and social care' and they accepted that (technically I am meant to book a test through work (NHS trust) not the usual NHS sites, but that would have meant waiting til the Monday, this was the Friday. I was afraid they would turn me away if I stated my occupation, irrational really). Anyway, my point is there is data collection happening so some degree. But I don't know what is done with it...

We should be getting weekly testing in schools. If everybody got a test on Friday, then we would know before Monday who needed to self-isolate.

Sorry to hear about your friend @mumsneedwine

Absolutely agree - weekly testing in schools.
Unfortunately we’re still not being tested at work (nhs) as there is no capacity. Unless you’re on an antibody trial, which I am. Next test is Thursday, Will be interesting, I’ve been negative so far despite commuting into London on public transport and about a third of my team have been positive.

My children both wear masks during the school day. They have three each per day and change over at set times
This is appalling brainwashing of kids! There a couple of kids with parents like you on my school, feel so sorry for them - luckily the majority of parents don’t do this.

@BungleandGeorge

What we really need to know is how many school staff have tested positive and how many were likely to have caught it in school. I suspect that’s not available but test and trace must have some idea

I went to great pains to make sure T and T knew the only place I'd been was school and the only people I'd had close contact with, besides Dh, were pupils.

It's why I've been vocal on these types of threads from the first day I knew I had it where it had to have done from.

As soon as school tried to suggest it could have been elsewhere - I have a student Dd who came home the day before I went to hospital so they were suggesting Dd could be the source - that it was school contact that was my risk. I had symptoms before Dd came home, albeit not ones that require testing.

@Susanwouldntlikeit

My children both wear masks during the school day. They have three each per day and change over at set times This is appalling brainwashing of kids! There a couple of kids with parents like you on my school, feel so sorry for them - luckily the majority of parents don’t do this.

Brainwashing?

My dc wear masks in shops. They don't have to but they do. I explain it's to keep other people safe and they happily do it.
Helping them to understand that their actions have an impact on the wider community and raising them to consider others even when it's a slight discomfort to themselves is how I want my children to be brought up. I would support them wearing masks in school if it was decided by the government or school management.

Same here Aragog
I went to great lengths to explain that my child caught it at school from the positive case he sat next to!
However, PHE still trying to claim that it could be from elsewhere, even though we had not been anywhere else for 2 weeks due to a previous SI from school, that he'd back a few days and sat next to a positive case. It's a no brainer.

I also made sure they knew 10 per cent of the form had it and that there had been at least 50 cases at that school.

And that's why I repeat myself on threads because the messages that Covid transmission in school is very real and catastrophic are being blocked, manipulated, denied.

I agree middleager

Eventually people will listen, that's my hope anyway. I'd love to just be able to sit and talk to the government and DfE and for then to tell me to my face that schools are safe and children don't transmit Covid. That good be a lengthy chat once I started my rant!