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We're having 2-3 teachers a day catching CV19 DFE You're not keeping us safe

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Anon12345678910 · 05/12/2020 18:37

Look at the image from www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3223
I've circled where we fall in classrooms. It's time for face coverings in classrooms. I don't want to loose any colleagues or my own life.

We're having 2-3 teachers a day catching CV19 DFE You're not keeping us safe
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noblegiraffe · 06/12/2020 18:45

Grin Chloe good to have proof. Nice one.

CallmeAngelina · 06/12/2020 18:47

@ChloeDecker, Ah right, well done. I thought so, but didn't think it warranted my time to go back and check up on such an obvious goady one.

motherrunner · 06/12/2020 19:04

@ChloeDecker That has got to be embarrassing 😆

starrynight19 · 06/12/2020 19:09

Ooh Chloe looks like you found her out. As they say if you tell lies you need to be good at covering your tracks.

CallmeAngelina · 06/12/2020 19:09

Nah, it'll probably be another name-change.

Possums4evr · 06/12/2020 19:14

If your working practices as a teacher have only undergone a "few minor temporary constraints" then I would suggest you are doing it (badly) wrong.

Bridecilla · 06/12/2020 19:41

We're In tier 3. In the last 3 hours I've heard:
My college- 2 staff positive and 10 staff got NHS isolate notifications

Ds' breakfast club has shut for 2 weeks
School next to our house has shut for 2 weeks.

DPs colleague is waiting for a blood transfusion on covid ward.

Education is a fucking shit storm.

mumsneedwine · 06/12/2020 19:46

And people are wondering why numbers have gone up despite lockdown.

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Anon12345678910 · 06/12/2020 20:15

It'll all come out in the wash and after lives are lost, unfortunately. I'm not surprised at the horrendous lack of empathy some are showing on here, I mean that's why the kids are the way they are let's face it! It's the same old addage "try walking in and someone else's shoes" it's an emotional intelligence thing which many on here fail dismally at and the sad thing is they believe it makes them look clever 😂 Until a nearest and dearest suffers there will be no empathy by those spouting at teachers it's completely beyond their capability which is worrying when certain ones claim to be in jobs where empathy is a key skill. It does take a certain level of intelligence to really understand the situation.

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Aragog · 06/12/2020 21:10

@Susanwouldntlikeit

God I wish teachers would stop moaning!!! Ha! you’re not wrong. I am a teacher and really despair of the impression some prolific posters misrepresent of the majority of us in RL who are not moaning, who get on with the job we enjoy with a few minor temporary constraints that are ridiculously minimal compared to what most of the population have endured this year.
Maybe you have fallen lucky and have managed to work in a school with minimal cases, and have fallen lucky outside of work too with few implications on your life due to Covid.

Sadly we aren't all in that situation.

My school has had a lot of cases, almost all leading back to being caught within school. We had 2.3 staff off ill with Covid over 4-5 weeks, almost all had symptoms making them feel ill with it. A number are suffering with ongoing fatigue, some still have no taste/smell, some are still out of breath a lot. One class has just finished its second time isolating.

I have been ill, really quite poorly, due to Covid. This included a hospital stay (following a rush to A&E after visiting a GP) and lengthy time off work, and I am still struggling now. I caught Covid in school - only place I'd been an only place I had close contact with anyone other than DH, who hasn't had Covid. No doubt caused due to being expected to work in unsafe working conditions despite being clinically vulnerable. I will now be taking medication for life and will need to be careful with my blood pressure. I still can't walk upstairs without stopping part way, my heart rate aces on exertion, I can bark stay awake after a day at work. My arthritis has flared up due to the massive knock to my immune system and not being able to take my arthritis meds during the time I had covid, which now means I can't straighten either leg and walking is both painful and difficult. Moving around school is not much fun right now.

I have lost my FIL and both of my nanas during lockdown. One caught Covid in hospital though all the deaths were non Covid. However we missed out on seeing them before their deaths, two were in hospital with no visitors. All had limited social contact beforehand due to Covid Their funerals were held under severe restrictions. I could go to 2 but not the other. There were no gatherings allowed after. I know of a number of others who have died during Covid times - some unrelated to Covid, some Covid, some indirectly caused by Covid and the current situation.

So actually yes, I am getting on with it - lets face it, I was working on remote learning whilst sat in a hospital bed! - but let's not underplay some of the restrictions we currently have in schools, life is not normal in school right now, and life outside of school is certainly not normal right now either! So forgive me if I fancy a little complaint every so often.

And I most certainly will not keep quiet and pretend schools are fine and covid secure on Mumsnet when they clearly aren't.

Aragog · 06/12/2020 21:11

Susanwouldntlikeit

I thought you were in an independent school. I must have you mixed up with someone else perhaps.

Mind you, our two most local independent schools are also struggling here. The boys' school was the first to close for positive cases - in the first week of September!

Aragog · 06/12/2020 21:15

ChloeDecker

I was sure I had read that somewhere before. Thanks for finding!!

Clavinova · 06/12/2020 22:02

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ChloeDecker · 06/12/2020 22:15

@Clavinova

Aragog I caught Covid in school - only place I'd been and only place I had close contact with anyone other than DH

That's not strictly true either - you had a meal out with friends (who you named as your contacts) and your dc came home from university the weekend before you tested positive (I recognise you from the higher education boards - we have a dc the same age).

Also it was your risk assessment (August) I happened to chance upon for yesterday's thread, although I didn't add your name to it at the time;

"As a member of staff I am actually allowed to wear a mask if I choose. It's in our risk assessment for school staff"

That comment from Aragog was back on the 25th August, Clav. The government issued last minute guidance on the 29th August that would have changed that risk assessment and has been from the point of which Aragog starting saying no masks in classrooms were allowed. Sorry to burst your bubble there.
Clavinova · 06/12/2020 22:25

Sorry to burst your bubble there.

Aragog is wearing a mask at school now although I don't know if she was wearing one before she caught coronavirus.

CallmeAngelina · 06/12/2020 22:49

@Clavinova, how about you back off from interrogating Aragog?

She's had a shitty enough time of it over the last few weeks, and still is now. Have a little empathy, ffs.

starrynight19 · 06/12/2020 22:53

CallmeAngelina

@Clavinova, how about you back off from interrogating Aragog?

She's had a shitty enough time of it over the last few weeks, and still is now. Have a little empathy, ffs.

This , really it isn’t enough that she has had covid and been in hospital but we will then pick her apart on here. Wow how low will some people go.

Clavinova · 06/12/2020 22:55

how about you back off from interrogating Aragog?

The first time I've mentioned her as far as I am aware - I didn't put her name to the quote yesterday.

Aragog · 06/12/2020 22:56

@Clavinova

Aragog I caught Covid in school - only place I'd been and only place I had close contact with anyone other than DH

That's not strictly true either - you had a meal out with friends (who you named as your contacts) and your dc came home from university the weekend before you tested positive (I recognise you from the higher education boards - we have a dc the same age).

Also it was your risk assessment (August) I happened to chance upon for yesterday's thread, although I didn't add your name to it at the time;

"As a member of staff I am actually allowed to wear a mask if I choose. It's in our risk assessment for school staff"

My dd spent the weekend more than 2m away and didn't stay in our home, and my last contact with her was more than 5 days before my symptoms started and a week and half before I tested positive, which is what T and T use, as was the one night in a hotel room where I stayed overnight with dh. She stayed in a separate room with her cousin and sat at a separate table with her two cousins, who were there at a different table to remember their grandad.

I wore a mask in all communal areas, bar the restaurant where we were socially distanced with Perspex dividers.

But yes - far more likely to come from that socially distanced meet up with someone who had no symptoms but has tested positive before or since, than at school where we know Covid was going around in numbers.

CallmeAngelina · 06/12/2020 22:57

@Aragog, you're not answerable to any posters on here. Flowers

Aragog · 06/12/2020 22:57

That's not strictly true either - you had a meal out with friends (who you named as your contacts)

And that was After the symptoms, which at the time we didn't know were Covid.
And both tested negative that week.
We didn't actually have to name them if we hadn't chosen to either as we were far enough apart for them to not count but thought we do it on the safe side after talking to them.

CallmeAngelina · 06/12/2020 22:58

@Clavinova

how about you back off from interrogating Aragog?

The first time I've mentioned her as far as I am aware - I didn't put her name to the quote yesterday.

You think that makes it OK?

Wow, you've stooped low tonight.

Aragog · 06/12/2020 23:00

Aragog is wearing a mask at school now although I don't know if she was wearing one before she caught coronavirus.

In school, no. It wasn't advised apart from outside in the playground or in corridors passing other adults. Not supposed to in class. I followed school guidance.

I ate alone and had no school adult contact within any close contact, let alone 2m.

Benjispruce2 · 06/12/2020 23:02

We’ve had no cases. It’s a small primary school. We can wear masks/visors if we wish but must for first aid along with the usual gloves etc. We wear a mask if listening to a child read as you need to be close to hear. Hoping we can continue to avoid a case now that vaccines are close to being rolled out.

Aragog · 06/12/2020 23:02

"As a member of staff I am actually allowed to wear a mask if I choose. It's in our risk assessment for school staff"

That's what we were originally told and we were allowed on corridors and playground. But the governors ruled no masks in classrooms at that point. They started to relax the rules when people started getting ill.