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To those not having the vaccine

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Potager · 02/12/2020 09:18

Your choice. But before you reject it. Read the proper science behind its rapid roll out, do not listen to uneducated twats/trolls/morons on social media.

The end is in sight. Masks and social distancing will go when the rate of new infections has fallen enough and there is no risk to the NHS anymore.

Are you going to continue to wear masks and avoid people while the rest of us get back to normal?

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chocchipmonster · 02/12/2020 09:24

I’ve already had COVID.

I will wear a mask as long as it is deemed necessary.

If I’m forced into taking the vaccine (for employment etc) then I will, but resentfully.

I want to look at post market surveillance for a few years, and see how people with autoimmune issues fare before I will happily accept a vaccine

Aragog · 02/12/2020 09:28

It's because I have had Covid that I definitely intend taking the vaccine as soon as possible. I can't go through that again and will do anything I can to help reduce the chances.

TheDailyCarbuncle · 02/12/2020 10:08

I won't be offered the vaccine any time soon - I'm under 40 with no underlying conditions and therefore the risk to me personally is practically zero. There's simply no point in money being wasted vaccinating people like me and I won't take the vaccine away from people who actually need it.

Fallsballs · 02/12/2020 10:15

What’s your agenda Potager ? Doctor, immunologist ?
Did you join up to make this post ?

MaxNormal · 02/12/2020 10:17

I'm not having it because I can't, nothing do do with anything else.

Bushola · 02/12/2020 10:21

The bulk of the population is very unlikely to get this any time soon. Mass vaccination just won’t happen at the rate people on here think it will (plus social distancing etc will ironally prevent mass queues of people etc. The logistics just won’t be managed plus it’ll get delayed by government scandal and other fall out.

Then there’s the need for a second dose and as many scientists have said the face rags and social distancing will still need to continue for some time and there’s no guarantee it stops asymptomatic spread anyway.

PowerslidePanda · 02/12/2020 10:23

Are you going to continue to wear masks and avoid people while the rest of us get back to normal?

Actually, I think their plan is for the rest of us to act as guinea pigs for the risks they perceive, and then take advantage of the herd immunity we provide!

I'm very much in favour of the immunity passport idea (with exceptions for those who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons).

PowerslidePanda · 02/12/2020 10:25

@Bushola

The bulk of the population is very unlikely to get this any time soon. Mass vaccination just won’t happen at the rate people on here think it will (plus social distancing etc will ironally prevent mass queues of people etc. The logistics just won’t be managed plus it’ll get delayed by government scandal and other fall out.

Then there’s the need for a second dose and as many scientists have said the face rags and social distancing will still need to continue for some time and there’s no guarantee it stops asymptomatic spread anyway.

Ah - a "realist". Maybe you're right. But it wasn't long ago that you guys were telling everyone a vaccine would be years away - if we ever got one at all...
timeforawine · 02/12/2020 10:35

I'll be taking the vaccine as soon as i am allowed, though i'll be towards the back of the que. I trust the scientists.

BernardsarenotalwaysSaints · 02/12/2020 10:36

Well I'm 32 so I'm unlikely to be offered one for a loooong time.

My 89yo Grandmother is undecided. She does has the flu vaccine every year but regarding the Covid vaccine, in her words she "can't really see the point when I'll be dead within decade or thereabouts either way". She's of the opinion that there a people who will gain more from getting it than she would. I've encouraged her to talk to her gp but I'm not going to put any further pressure on her, I'm fairly certain that at 89 she's grown up enough to make her own decisions! My point being there are reasons, other than being 'Anti Vaccs', that people may decline.

BogRollBOGOF · 02/12/2020 10:40

I fall below priority 10 on the list of who is eligable. For my demographic, I'd be very unlucky if Covid was more than a temporary mild-moderate inconvenience.

The benefits of a vaccine have to outweigh the risks of an illness to an individual. In the most susceptible age/ health groups, that risk/ benefit assessment is clearer, but gets less so for younger, healthy people.

I'm in no way anti-vaxx. The DCs and I have always taken up vaccines avaliable on the NHS, even when there was caution over DS1's egg allergies which were relevant. The DCs are up to date with the flu vaccine a month ago. However, I am happy to be patient about being vaccinated against Covid as aspects of the research are new, particularly for the long-term risks. If DM (82) is vaccinated, what are her chances of living with long term consequences in 5, 10, 15, 20 years vs the health impacts of Covid. My covid risks are much lower, but health for the next 40, 50, 55 years is worth considering.

I'm open minded and happy to wait while people who will clearly benefit more take their turn ahead of me.

I do believe in freedom of bodily autonomy though.

Bobtheshark · 02/12/2020 10:53

I won’t have it, because I wouldn’t have any vaccine. Never had any and never will.

LaBellina · 02/12/2020 10:57

I'll keep wearing a mask for a few months, thank you.

Until it's clear after a few months/ year that there are indeed no serious side effects, I won't be taking this vaccine.

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Potager · 02/12/2020 11:11

@LaBellina

I'll keep wearing a mask for a few months, thank you.

Until it's clear after a few months/ year that there are indeed no serious side effects, I won't be taking this vaccine.

It is clear now there are no serious side effects. Vaccines are pretty safe. You are more likely to get side effects from medication such as paracetamol or ibuprofen, yet people don't think twice before downing their prescriptions.
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BooseysMom · 02/12/2020 11:26

I work supporting frontline nurses so will have the vaccine when it's rolled out. I wonder though whether the virus would naturally run its course and die out after 2 years? Is this what happened to the original SARS years ago? No one was vaccinated and it seemed to no longer be newsworthy.

Bushola · 02/12/2020 11:34

@BooseysMom

I work supporting frontline nurses so will have the vaccine when it's rolled out. I wonder though whether the virus would naturally run its course and die out after 2 years? Is this what happened to the original SARS years ago? No one was vaccinated and it seemed to no longer be newsworthy.
Hysteria and social media.

If we’d had the same online world we have now it would have been a thing.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 02/12/2020 11:42

SARS was more aggressive and lethal which meant that people showed acute symptoms much sooner after exposure making it easier to use contact tracing and quarantine to stop it. Covid 19 allows infected people to wander around for ages not realising they’re infected and meanwhile passing it on to far more people.

theconstantinoplegardener · 02/12/2020 11:43

Boosey I think SARS died out because people were only really infectious when they were clearly unwell, so it was easier to identify and isolate cases. Covid19 is much more difficult to contain because there is so much asymptomatic spread.

boobot1 · 02/12/2020 11:55

@BooseysMom

I work supporting frontline nurses so will have the vaccine when it's rolled out. I wonder though whether the virus would naturally run its course and die out after 2 years? Is this what happened to the original SARS years ago? No one was vaccinated and it seemed to no longer be newsworthy.
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Baaaahhhhh · 02/12/2020 11:56

@BernardsarenotalwaysSaints

Well I'm 32 so I'm unlikely to be offered one for a loooong time.

My 89yo Grandmother is undecided. She does has the flu vaccine every year but regarding the Covid vaccine, in her words she "can't really see the point when I'll be dead within decade or thereabouts either way". She's of the opinion that there a people who will gain more from getting it than she would. I've encouraged her to talk to her gp but I'm not going to put any further pressure on her, I'm fairly certain that at 89 she's grown up enough to make her own decisions! My point being there are reasons, other than being 'Anti Vaccs', that people may decline.

My DM said the same. I have managed to persuade her with the argument that if she ends up in hospital with Covid, she is potentially denying a younger person treatment, and not just for Covid, but for all the other things that are being delayed, her argument therefore fails.
BooseysMom · 02/12/2020 11:57

Oh I see. Yes it really is a virus that works on stealth. Similar to the pleurisy that DH caught 4 years ago. He was really run down from his job and he ended up hospitalised with pleurisy which had developed from pneumonia. Pneumonia was at DS's pre school at the time and we think DS was the carrier and DH got it as he was so run-down. I didn't get it but had a chest infection that lasted months. DS had a cold and minor cough.

Thanks for the replies.

Baaaahhhhh · 02/12/2020 11:59

@Bobtheshark

I won’t have it, because I wouldn’t have any vaccine. Never had any and never will.
I am always interested by this absolute adherence to non-vaccination.

Can I ask? Do you accept other medical treatments? Would you accept chemotherapy? Would you, if you were really ill, go on a trial for an experimental cancer drug?

tootyfruitypickle · 02/12/2020 12:03

I've listened to a lot of scientists on this.

It's utter crap that the vaccines are not safe or have been rushed.

It is likely that most of us will be vaccinated by the summer.

Those that haven't been vaccinated (through choice) will find their freedoms continue to be limited, eg no foreign travel, no theatres, concerts, possibly even some bars and restaurants (I expect that covid restrictions will be allowed to be dropped if the premises agree to check vaccine status of customers, otherwise, covid restrictions remain at least for the duration of 2021 and early 2022).

Fair enough if that's your choice, but I'd rather protect my health and those of my family and return to normal life as quickly as possible.

XmasLockdown · 02/12/2020 12:08

I am not keen but I probably have to take it if you need one for able to fly. My family lives abroad. I am down the list so I can see how this vaccination pans out. I am worried about side effects that don't present themselves straight away.

tootyfruitypickle · 02/12/2020 12:10

Side effects for vaccines are short term, not long term. Vaccines are always rolled out at this point in the process. It's been quicker as 1) unlimited funds, normally research scientists have to apply for multiple grants from trusts. 2) Unlimited willing participants so bigger trials giving quicker results.

Timewise- the priority groups will overlap, so it's likely the under 50 vaccinations will begin by early spring.